Disappointment of the lack of Race cars

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About Aussies V8 Supercars. Didn't we get more than one australian track? I see a possible DLC (free or paid). PD is not gonna charge for every DLC (mentioned by Kaz). I am not dissapointed with GT6, just had high hopes for certain cars.
Fysics are much better (my opinion!).

Having more RM what do we gain?: Being able to race with you're favorite brand.
 
TokoTurismo
"To each his own". I understand it somewhat annoys you, but it's just my opinion.
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what a cop out answer...you could at least attempt to zip up the big boy pants and have an adult conversation about it instead of hiding behind "to each his own"...there is ZERO logical reason why having the CHOICE to RM your cars is a bad thing...you would be perfectly free to not racing modify your cars...while giving those who like them the option to do it...
 
TokoTurismo
No no. I love racing and crusing, but just find just race cars uninteresting. I should have worded it better.


"To each his own". I understand it somewhat annoys you, but it's just my opinion.
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I was just teasing! I like the road cars too. My sense of humor is not working so well today it seems :ouch:
 
* This list is one part of the cars planned for inclusion, and is subject to change.
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Stop ignoring this like you don't know how to read.

It would be different if it said " This is the final list for the launch day of GT6 "
 
Metfanant
what a cop out answer...you could at least attempt to zip up the big boy pants and have an adult conversation about it instead of hiding behind "to each his own"...there is ZERO logical reason why having the CHOICE to RM your cars is a bad thing...you would be perfectly free to not racing modify your cars...while giving those who like them the option to do it...
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What cop out answer? I prefer road cars for also equipping parts to them over having to "RM" my cars, but if others do, no problem... So, as I said before, to each his own. I don't like RMs, you like RMs, that's fine. Not sure why you're making a big deal. It's just my opinion that I fine RMs boring and prefer road cars.

trustjab
I was just teasing! I like the road cars too. My sense of humor is not working so well today it seems :ouch:
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Oh. Didn't realize you were teasing, haha. xD
 
TokoTurismo
What cop out answer? I prefer road cars for also equipping parts to them over having to "RM" my cars, but if others do, no problem... So, as I said before, to each his own. I don't like RMs, you like RMs, that's fine. Not sure why you're making a big deal. It's just my opinion that I fine RMs boring and prefer road cars.
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its a cop out answer because i asked if you were against the option being included...you said yes...so i followed it up by asking for an explanation as to why they should not be included...as expected you dont have a valid reason...

NOT including them only appeases you...so it doesnt follow your "to each, his own" attitude at all...if they ARE included then everyone gets to play the game the way they want to...the very definition of "to each, his own"

so do you really support "to each, his own" or not?

im all for road cars...the more the better...but if they also include an RM option as an "ultimate" modification it appeases EVERYONE...
 
TorqueHappenS08
* This list is one part of the cars planned for inclusion, and is subject to change.
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indicates that the car is appearing for the first time in the series.


Stop ignoring this like you don't know how to read.

It would be different if it said " This is the final list for the launch day of GT6 "
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Approximately how many more times are you going to post this?
 
Metfanant
its a cop out answer because i asked if you were against the option being included...you said yes...so i followed it up by asking for an explanation as to why they should not be included...as expected you dont have a valid reason...
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Alright then, I'll give you a reason. MY, reason. MY reason for not wanting RMs is because I find them uninteresting and rather prefer to ACTUALLY customize your cars with ACTUAL body kits, as seen from the latest screenshots. I don't want them removed, I just don't prefer them.

NOT including them only appeases you...so it doesnt follow your "to each, his own" attitude at all...if they ARE included then everyone gets to play the game the way they want to...the very definition of "to each, his own"

so do you really support "to each, his own" or not?
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Did I want not including RMs to appease me, no? Read above. This is why I said many times to each his own. If the RMs were included, everybody wins, I just won't bother with it.

im all for road cars...the more the better...but if they also include an RM option as an "ultimate" modification it appeases EVERYONE...
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Okay, again I'll just won't bother with it if was included that way.
 
Absolutely more race cars! :)
I noticed that PD has given us, Honda and Subaru updated for the Super GT, but Nissan and Toyota have still 2008 models.
I expect (even via DLC later) that PD filled this gap, and give us Nissan GT-R and Lexsus SC430 also updated.
For the GT300 I expect the Honda CR-Z.
 
Flying Scots
Absolutely more race cars! :)
I noticed that PD has given us, Honda and Subaru updated for the Super GT, but Nissan and Toyota have still 2008 models.
I expect (even via DLC later) that PD filled this gap, and give us Nissan GT-R and Lexsus SC430 also updated.
For the GT300 I expect the Honda CR-Z.
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That's because (apart from the Prius that no one cares about) its lexus with all the most recent models. As said, perhaps they're DLC. For all we know, we could probably get a Toyota Hybrid three pack that includes the Tokachi 24 Hr winning Supra HV-R, the APR Hasepro Prius GT and the TS030 Hybrid.
 
RACECAR
That's because (apart from the Prius that no one cares about) its lexus with all the most recent models. As said, perhaps they're DLC. For all we know, we could probably get a Toyota Hybrid three pack that includes the Tokachi 24 Hr winning Supra HV-R, the APR Hasepro Prius GT and the TS030 Hybrid.
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And the missing Deltawing in another pack :sly:
 
RACECAR
Providing Dr. Eggma-uh I mean Don Panoz and his crew of flunkies don't get their way.
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Sir you just did a Sonic pop-culture ref mixed with a Dave Chappelle line, that was hilarious. Also I must agree with you on that, as much as I hate the car I still want to drive it.
 
Metfanant
there is ZERO logical reason why having the CHOICE to RM your cars is a bad thing...you would be perfectly free to not racing modify your cars...while giving those who like them the option to do it...
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PD shouldn't bother designing the body kits for these RMs and using up development time, they should allow the player to design their own race modified cars. Granted, a few of the RMs are a bit more than a few body parts and wings added, but this would have been possible with GT5 if a greater selection of aero parts were given. Just my opinion.
 
RACECAR
That's because (apart from the Prius that no one cares about) its lexus with all the most recent models. As said, perhaps they're DLC. For all we know, we could probably get a Toyota Hybrid three pack that includes the Tokachi 24 Hr winning Supra HV-R, the APR Hasepro Prius GT and the TS030 Hybrid.
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It would be highly desirable :)
There is to be considered, however, the effort that PD should do, to reproduce the behavior of hybrid cars in the game (especially the TS030)
In any case, i remain confident for the future DLC :cheers:
 
MeanElf
Like has already been said, with rolling DLC there could be a lot more still coming for those of you who like that sort of thing.

Personally though, I favour the GT The Real Driving Simulator experience which it's always been - ie: a focus on regular cars.
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GT is far from a simulator.

I was hoping for new GT500's as free DLC with GT5 as they have a close relationship. There was only one and you had to pay for it. I am very anti DLC, its a huge scam
 
xStretch-
GT is far from a simulator.

I was hoping for new GT500's as free DLC with GT5 as they have a close relationship. There was only one and you had to pay for it. I am very anti DLC, its a huge scam
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Yeah, we can all hope we get lots of stuff we want for free, but be be real about it... the game would never be released if they had to wait for content to be included before release, so then there is DLC. You pay your money for the game you walk out the shop with, content generated later still needs to be paid for by PD, so why would any of us be entitled to it for free?

Obviously when content is deliberately withheld then that might be different.

I wonder if the DeltaWing will become paid DLC after release, being a car we know existed and was in game prior to release, I can see that being unfair.


As for the original topic. I still look back at GT1 for inspiration. Heavy road car bias, but RM for nearly all cars. GT was never about simulating entire series. Thing is most of the RM are made up, and don't appear to be built to any regs. People these days want real (a.k.a. requiring license) racing cars.

What do people want more, licensed 'real' race cars. Or, the ability to RM and Livery existing road cars? Touch choice for me, the collector and enthusiast in me wants the former, the gamer and racer in me wants the latter.
 
MatskiMonk
Yeah, we can all hope we get lots of stuff we want for free, but be be real about it... the game would never be released if they had to wait for content to be included before release, so then there is DLC. You pay your money for the game you walk out the shop with, content generated later still needs to be paid for by PD, so why would any of us be entitled to it for free?

Obviously when content is deliberately withheld then that might be different.

I wonder if the DeltaWing will become paid DLC after release, being a car we know existed and was in game prior to release, I can see that being unfair.
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I will give you a little example of why I think paid DLC is ruining gaming.

You do know that Call of Duty for example, take out maps of game just so they can release them as DLC to make money. The maps were made before release and already on the disk but they lock them so you have to buy the extra maps :D.

£40 doesn't warrent a few new tracks and cars with some slightly changed physics. Many people like myself expect better.
 
Genuinely surprised to see so many people saying they don't fancy race cars or RMs.
Everyone can like what they want (obviously), but I'll point out that starting with GT2, they started including race cars, rally cars, and Super GT cars. Think Toyota GT1, Nissan r390, Toms Supra etc. So sure, having ordinary cars is a hallmark of the series, but I'd say that race cars are too now.
 
xStretch-
I will give you a little example of why I think paid DLC is ruining gaming.

You do know that Call of Duty for example, take out maps of game just so they can release them as DLC to make money. The maps were made before release and already on the disk but they lock them so you have to buy the extra maps :D.

£40 doesn't warrent a few new tracks and cars with some slightly changed physics. Many people like myself expect better.
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Well, this is GT, it's not CoD. DLC for GT means that in 12-18 months time we can still receive brand new content. Whether or not you want to spend £40 on GT6 to get the new circuits (Brands Hatch, Willow springs, Matterhorn, GT Stadium, Bathurst, Ascari RR, Silverstone) as well as the additional day/night transition and weather effects, and the return of Apricot Hill), as well as the new cars, tuning options, accessories, and course maker (maybe)..... isn't really so relevant. As a stand-alone game, it's worth it, if it's not worth it to you for the extra, then plain and simple, don't bother buying the game, keep the £40 and keep playing GT5.

Of all Kaz's/PD's faults, I don't think it can be said they are greedy.
 
xStretch-
I will give you a little example of why I think paid DLC is ruining gaming.

You do know that Call of Duty for example, take out maps of game just so they can release them as DLC to make money. The maps were made before release and already on the disk but they lock them so you have to buy the extra maps :D.

£40 doesn't warrent a few new tracks and cars with some slightly changed physics. Many people like myself expect better.
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While I certainly agree with you about locking out content that was done in time for the launch of the game. I think adding content after the game comes out can keep it fresh and allows PD to add things that they maybe didn't have time for. It also means that if there were a pretty good portion of the community that wanted something (say, more racecars) than they can deliver. Would it be better if they were free or on disc? Yeah, but sometimes things just fall too far down the list to make it.

Edit: Also, there are some pretty big changes coming to GT6. The physics have had a pretty through going over it seems and the addition of the new tuning options should be pretty cool. Not saying you need to buy it day one or anything, just wanted to make sure you had all of the info.
 
trustjab
Race Cars are boring? But youre buying a game about racing, cars! So your car is a 'racing car' if its racing. That means you're stating a double negative. Technically speaking any cars racing are race(racing) cars. The difference is the Race Cars are designed to do just that. Street or road cars are not. Then the options to better your car with "racing suspension" and the like are bringing your car closer to... a Race Car! :dopey: So I dont get that statement. Maybe throwing soft tires on the things is what makes it boring? Or people just like sliding around or going slow, which isn't really racing at all. :confused:
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Personally, I find street cars more interesting. Race cars are purpose built as you say. Street cars have a charm that race cars don't. Maybe because you can make them more personal and they can be found in so many shapes, performances and such.

I have to agree that saying race cars are boring is a bit harsh, but honestly (and personally), I find it more enjoyable to spend my time playing around with street cars. And what I love the most is driving the car as stock as possible. Street tires and suspension. that's the easiest way to appreciate differences between cars and how they are better or worst than other cars. That's were I find the charm in street cars.
 
Yeah, maybe I should've worded it better. I just find race cars not too interesting, but will use them for only competition purposes. For road cars, I enjoy them more for cruises and such.
 
xStretch-
GT is far from a simulator...
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A simulator is what PD call it, my point (hence the italics) was to stress the word 'driving' which some seem to have forgotten, as a number of people have called this game a 'racing' sim.

For myself, I think it does a very good job as a sim - but that's my opinion.
 

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