Disney+ MCU

  • Thread starter 05XR8
  • 463 comments
  • 40,871 views
I agree, it's too comic book accurate for me. However, considering the show's (what I assume to be) limited budget, I think they did what they could. I'm sure it'll be vastly improved come Cap America 4.
 
I imagine it'll be toned down. Cap's first couple outfits were really colorful, and after the 1st Avengers, I think they immediately turned down the amount of red in it.
 
Seeing as how Black Falcons comic suit is white and red. His MCU suit grey and red. Maybe they'll go back to a grey and red with blue in it.
 
Man oh man, did they ever nerf Bucky. You can’t tell me that a civillian with super serum can stack up to soldier with super serum, combat wise. You certainly don’t get the courage to jump from buildings and etc. That does not come with it.
 
Man oh man, did they ever nerf Bucky. You can’t tell me that a civillian with super serum can stack up to soldier with super serum, combat wise. You certainly don’t get the courage to jump from buildings and etc. That does not come with it.

Two words: budget limitation. Also, time constraints. I hear those reasons often when it comes to TV shows that feature set pieces similar to this series.
 
Man oh man, did they ever nerf Bucky. You can’t tell me that a civillian with super serum can stack up to soldier with super serum, combat wise. You certainly don’t get the courage to jump from buildings and etc. That does not come with it.
Superhero powers scale according to the situation required. See: Wanda in Infinity War/Endgame.
 
Yep, there are many a situation where we've seen charaters do certain things only to have that ability suddenly is scaled back or forgotten about entirely as it would result in much shorter stories otherwise.

I'm pretty sure if Dr Strange did a repeat of his time loop on Thanos that Thanos would have given up (for a while at least). In fact, Dr Strange could surely do that in any situation that presents itself as dangerous in any way, just time loop incase you lose and repeat until you win. There are plenty of other abilities that get forgotton about afterwards because they could resolve almost every conflict easilly from then on.

Even Thanos after getting the first few stones then barely uses them, he can manipulate peoples reality but he does that once IIRC. Surely that would have allowed him to win much sooner and maybe even have been a way to trick Strange into not doing a time loop should that ability not have fallen by the wayside too.
 
Last edited:
Yep, there are many a situation where we've seen charaters do certain things only to have that ability suddenly is scaled back or forgotten about entirely as it would result in much shorter stories otherwise.
In the words of Screen Rant's Pitch Meetings, "we need it to do that so that the movie can happen".

I'm sure Foolkiller would school me on this one, but I don't even know why Thanos needed the Time Stone anyway. He wanted to wipe out half of all life in the universe, and that's what he did - where's the time angle on that? Had he wiped out half of all life in the universe so that it never existed, sure, there's the time angle, but he could surely have dusted half of all life with just the Space Stone (go anywhere) and the Reality Stone (change reality), and maybe the Power Stone (do more of whatever you're doing) - no need for the Soul, Mind, or Time stones - and he had that set by about 30 minutes in.


Anyway, speaking of Screen Rant's Pitch Meetings:

 
Gotta catch 'em all though.

One of the annoying power scale backs has been Hulk. He does a one-hitter-quitter on the flying worm lizard, but has trouble knocking Thanos out. Plus, in the comics, I think Hulk cracked a planet.
Yeah, Hulk ran through steel on a carrier and a bunker, but I expected more from the "strongest Avenger."

I guess we really didn't see any athleticism from Bucky, the way we saw Cap. He can leap buildings and lift heavy stuff, but maybe that serum didn't enhance such prowess, the way Cap's serum affected Steve.
 
The way I understood it from reading the comics, none of the gems or stones had the ability to affect the entire universe by themselves. The more gems you had the greater their range. To wipe out half of all life everywhere you'd need all the stones even if you're only manipulating one of the properties.

Hulk's strength seems to be tied to his emotional state. Maybe he didn't get angry enough to go into worldbreaker mode, especially after Thanos completely overpowered him in the beginning of Infinity War. It's a shame his victories against Beta Ray Bill, Man-Thing and Ares in Thor: Ragnarok all happened off screen so we never got a chance to see him really cut loose.

Did Steve Rogers have any specialised training in the movies the way he did in the comics? If Bucky was just an ordinary grunt until he was reprogrammed and injected with serum maybe he wasn't trained in the kind of fighting techniques you'd need to take on someone like Batroc. It looks like his job was more assassin than combatant.
 
Last edited:
Yeahboy.png


Dang, was almost on to their mindset. :D

But, their reasoning was they felt it would be "too much math & too much evolution" for the audience, and wouldn't have been as emotional for Sam becoming Cap. Which hey, I totally agree.
 
Last edited:
Watched a possible speculation this series may have been part of a Skrull invasion.
I guess it'd be one way for Emily VanCamp to have her cake and eat it as far as face-heel turns go. Or do they mean Uncle Sam and Uncle Buck are little green men, in which case, get outta town. I could buy a Val Skrull though.
 
Last edited:
I guess it'd be one way for Emily VanCamp to have her cake and eat it as far as face-heel turns go. Or do they mean Uncle Sam and Uncle Buck are little green men, in which case, get outta town. I could buy a Val Skrull though.
1st one is what I've heard. I may give the series another watch-thru to see how folks came to that conclusion unless it's based on something elsewhere. I didn't think the Skrulls would be explored more until Cap. Marvel 2.
 
I guess it'd be one way for Emily VanCamp to have her cake and eat it as far as face-heel turns go. Or do they mean Uncle Sam and Uncle Buck are little green men, in which case, get outta town. I could buy a Val Skrull though.
Think more about Agent 13.

just to add
How could she get in THAT much trouble for giving Cap the shield and Sam the wings? Yet, John Walker murders a person in cold blood and he's pardoned. What she did wouldn't make her public enemy number one. She's the niece of Agent Carter. For sure the government could look the other way.

Not that she isn't intelligent, but to go down the route of the power broker for being upset? That's way over the top. Higher than Zemo level... and his reason is understandable.
If Cap is alive(supposedly, he's with Fury), pretty far fetched for her to betray or be on the other side of what Steve Rogers fought for.

Of course, only the writers know. However, I could see how this would involve the Skrulls.
 
Last edited:
Sharon Carter. Edited my post above.
No, Emily VanCamp plays her which is why she was the first person I mentioned. Presumably an invasion would involve multiple characters and not just her but if she's a Skrull then good Sharon can resurface with her reputation intact along with the actress's potential to appear in more MCU productions after Secret Invasion.
 
Last edited:
I also heard about this Secret Invasion/Sharon Carter = Skrull thing before, but the reasons given so far sound a bit flimsy, desperate even, to me. Just because there's a Secret Invasion TV show in the works, there's a likelihood of her being a Skrull imposter?

Personally, I think the thinking is probably based on...

...How badly Sharon Carter/Powerbroker reveal was handled, one of my main gripes with this show. She became a fugitive after helping Cap and Co, which is an ok-ish storyline to go with, I guess, but are you telling me someone like Steve Rogers has never, NEVER, once checked how she was doing? And that's one of the catalysts for her to become a heel?

Honestly, I think her arc will bleed more into the upcoming Armor Wars, instead. I think that show is closer to the release schedule than the Secret Invasion, anyway.
 
Last edited:
That's why I said there's no way her bitterness translates into what we saw. Look what Cap did. He was a nomad with Falcon and Black Widow. He beat up everyone in the raft and released everyone. Sharon Carter doesn't get a pardon after the blip?

We'll see how everything is connected. WandaVision moves to Dr Strange. F(Cap)&WS move to the Cap movie.
I watched a speculation about Armour Wars as well.
 
One of the things I've noticed about all the Loki footage being released is the cinematography, or more specifically, the angles most of the scenes were shot from. They seem slightly below or around abdomen level, making us the viewers always look "up" at the characters. Some shots seem to be shot from actual floors too, giving me this feeling that we're creeping along somehow.

I wonder what's the thinking behind such an unusual framing technique.
 
One of the things I've noticed about all the Loki footage being released is the cinematography, or more specifically, the angles most of the scenes were shot from. They seem slightly below or around abdomen level, making us the viewers always look "up" at the characters. Some shots seem to be shot from actual floors too, giving me this feeling that we're creeping along somehow.

I wonder what's the thinking behind such an unusual framing technique.
The Avengers: the "You are all beneath me" theme Loki believes. Maybe?
 
Just finished watching the first episode of Loki, and I have to say, this has to be my favourite MCU show so far, based on the first impression.

Tom Hiddleston is utterly brilliant. I have no other words for it other than 'brilliant'. His turn as Loki is so convincing and nuanced that I just wanted to see him on screen all the time. My favourite bit has to be...

When he sees that there are a crap ton of Infinity Stones just rolling around in some cabinet - and none of them even work in TVA's dimension. And then, the gradual realisation that TVA might possess the most powerful technology/power in the whole of universe. You can tell the gears spinning in his head in those scenes. Oh, he's definitely cooking something up now.

Can't wait for the next episode!
 
Last edited:
It was a great start to the series, Tom Hiddleston is nailing it, and Owen Wilson was great as Mobius too. He really nailed his role as being casual but also in control and not in any way intimidated by Loki.
 
I loved how the 1st episode sets everything up, eventually addressing the rest of the MCU up to EndGame, & how Loki pre-Dark World becomes the Loki we've been a bit more accustomed to without rushing or just making him "flip a switch". Hard to describe and trying not to spoil what it is he specifically sees, but basically, I really appreciate the writing in this episode taking its time and using it to lay the foundation for what's to come.
 

Latest Posts

Back