DLC release discussion (Some note in first post)
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- MrTimmyA
Did you also ask for a track that can only be used with karts, even though the other "kart" track in GT5 let you use other cars?
How about the one-time-use paint items, that once used up, you have to re-buy; you asked for those?
Or the cars that you are only allowed to have one each of (in a game that's entirely about collecting cars)?
How about the fact that previous GT5 DLC used to be spread across all accounts, but now, you have to pay for it per account?
Did you really ask for all that? Right. Didn't think so.
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-Cheezman-
If I understand correctly, you can have as many of these cars you want. You just have to buy them over and over...
Can someone confirm that's how it works?
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Hustle kings has the same set-up as the paint chips but with chalk instead but at least you get 40 uses of the chalk before you have to buy more.
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- kudos00
That's exactly right. The Edge Camaro was allowed, but the true DLC isn't because it's just a business move. You can't HATE them for it. I HATE that it's like that because me and my older brother play, but we just have to live with it unless Sony decides to change it. Someone said that's what happened with MAG.
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- redrkt
- redrktrc
I don't mean that it's against the rules, but most people would only have one. Only people like GTP addicts that race in clubs etc would want more than one.
Sure, I guess having multiple accounts means that each account is recognised as a separate user. Your accounts aren't being recognised as the same console so therefore why would they allow two different users to have the DLC if only one of them paid for it.
I don't know guysKaz said there is no other way around It. They wouldn't purposely scam us so we buy it more than once.
there are more than just "GTP addicts" that have multiple accts. I have an acct for each of the different racing games that I play, and belong to leagues with each one, easier to keep track of things I do in each league that way, BUT, I also play GT5 on all of them (except one which is Shift only) so yes I would like the DLC to be available to each of my accts without having to give half my paycheck to them to do it, the same as everyone else on here feels. We didn't have to buy multiple copies of the game to use it on different accts, same principle.
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- macospet1
- My What?
I don't hate them, we don't even know who to blame really, although I'm thinking PD and Sony each contributed in one way or another to this "problem"
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- trk29
I don't mean that it's against the rules, but most people would only have one. Only people like GTP addicts that race in clubs etc would want more than one.
Sure, I guess having multiple accounts means that each account is recognised as a separate user. Your accounts aren't being recognised as the same console so therefore why would they allow two different users to have the DLC if only one of them paid for it.
I don't know guys
No it's just now they don't want to change it, imagine someone comes up with this idea and it causes backlash. Unless this decision was reached unanimously, which is pretty sad.
It doesn't make sense, since we can have the Edge Camaro on multiple accounts.
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- kudos00
I know it. I wouldn't know how they both contributed to the problem, though.
The blame is on Sony. Kaz had no idea this was coming. It would be a huge risk to be flat-out lying to us after EVERYTHING that's happened these past 11 months.
We probably won't ever know why, but the fact that the Camaro was a simple livery and nothing changed, besides that, could be a good reason for it.
The DLC Touring cars are of the same models we have in the game, but they're modded performance-wise differently, not just the tune-ups from the shop. For those cars to be Touring cars in GT5, simple add-ons wouldn't make them DLC worthy. They would not be the same at all if we tuned the originals in our own way. Not the same specs. or performance.
That's what I think.
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- RowdLL
People are missing the point both sides of this debate, it is down to two things:
First thing is they failed heavily to inform us PRIOR to the release that it would work the way it does. Many users bought DLC on accounts they dont use to play. Many others will never be able to buy and use the DLC (strange mix of disc/psn regions).
Second, they used a system not at all familiar to PS3 users, that normally have multiple accounts for themselves and their families. I dont care how Xbox works, it was just not done in ps3. So if PD chose to go the same route, they should expect some rage from users that were used to a different and CHEAPER way of purchasing DLC for them and their families.
First thing is they failed heavily to inform us PRIOR to the release that it would work the way it does. Many users bought DLC on accounts they dont use to play. Many others will never be able to buy and use the DLC (strange mix of disc/psn regions).
Second, they used a system not at all familiar to PS3 users, that normally have multiple accounts for themselves and their families. I dont care how Xbox works, it was just not done in ps3. So if PD chose to go the same route, they should expect some rage from users that were used to a different and CHEAPER way of purchasing DLC for them and their families.
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- kudos00
Rodrigo, Kaz didn't know so PD had no part. I was understanding what you were saying, but then I thought, no. It's all Sony. They should have warned KAZ so Kaz would have warned us through twitter, which he did at the last minute or the minute of DLC being released.
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another_jakhole
I doubt the man leading a multi million dollar project doesnt know how it will be distributed, how it will generate revenues and so on. You can only assume Kaz is this naive if you are completely clueless about how companies are run. Nearly every other game on PS3 has DLC working the way we are used to, the way we were expecting the gt5 DLC to work. But PD goes and does it completely different to every other PS3 game developer. I cannot see them as naive, it has clearly been done for a reason. If you are running some business you know what is happening on your industry, you know what other companies are doing to make money. Sony (and PD) is trying to shift to a business model that is more similar to Microsoft's. Maybe its more profitable. But it was not how they built the PS3 playing community, it was not how they conquered their market share.
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- neema_t
It is a shame Sony or PD or whoever had to implement the DLC in this way, especially as I just started a fresh save with a GTP_ tag. I bought the DLC for my main account, so it's a shame I'll probably never get to use my GTP tag name online now... I suppose I could just buy Spa on that account but I know I'd miss the touring cars. There's also the fact that I just shouldn't have to.
I'm hoping they cave under the pressure from the community and remove the account lock, but to be fair to them I can see why they did it this way... That doesn't make it ok, though, don't get me wrong, but I imagine they lose a whole load of sales to account sharers.
I'm hoping they cave under the pressure from the community and remove the account lock, but to be fair to them I can see why they did it this way... That doesn't make it ok, though, don't get me wrong, but I imagine they lose a whole load of sales to account sharers.
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- jedivenom
I totally agree Rodrigo.
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- trk29
Exactly. They had to build the code to do the DLC. So PD knew. It was decided before 2.0.
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- PowderGuy
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- jedivenom
And now in the U.S. you will get a DLC Honda for having to wait. So if they can do that, there is no reason why they cant make the new DLC stuff work like the old DLC stuff, where it works on every account on your PS3. If you see what I mean.
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- WrecklessAbandon
So the CEO/President doesn't know what's going on?
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- GTP_WorstDriver
This song represents how Sony cares about their customers and PD about their GT community.
CONTAINS AUP OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE.
CONTAINS AUP OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE.
, so I have no idea what you are trying to imply.
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- redrkt
- redrktrc
on this statement I do have to agree but (and this I know for fact) I work for microsoft doing tech support for the box and I know that I get at least 20 calls a day from people who are leaving MS to get a PS3 because
#1 SONY does not charge to play online
#2 when they purchase DLC for their games it works on all accts on the console.
and I also get the calls asking WHY can't DLC they purchase be used on their other accts.
In my opinion to pull a move like this with the economy the way it is worldwide, and people not having extra money to spend on things that 2 years ago they would have is ludicris and definitely goes against the business model that has made SONY the gaming company it is today.
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That's also why it gets delayed for NA, so the people there get jealouse and buy it "just because".
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- Marcus__Garvey
It is rather comical that the Stealth GTR that North America gets as free DLC applies to all the accounts on a PS3 but not the paid DLC.
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- CarbonCorrs
Xbox DLC's are not region locked to game's disc region, big difference. If DLC's were region free we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
Not to mention this dumba$$ policy of releasing DLC's at different times in different regions.
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- steventhomasII
wow...all i can say is wow...and a few more words lol
first,i am way pissed that the DLC got delayed,BUT ill get over it. it will get there when it gets there.
on the topic of the "free" DLC vs the "paid" DLC all one has to do is look at the numerous threads here about duping to wonder why sony is choosing now to do it this way,its their choice and its your choice whether you will pay for it or not.
personally i dont give a flying leap either way as i have one acc. and dont dupe or glitch or permanent borrow,chose to play the game how you want but in all honesty that WAS NOT how they intended you to play the game and as the MAKERS of the game they chose to add a few roadblocks to try and knock alot of it off.
i feel some of your's pain as far as it not being available on all the acc's on a single unit but this is the way they have chosen to do it and now you all have a CHOICE on what YOU want to do.
first,i am way pissed that the DLC got delayed,BUT ill get over it. it will get there when it gets there.
on the topic of the "free" DLC vs the "paid" DLC all one has to do is look at the numerous threads here about duping to wonder why sony is choosing now to do it this way,its their choice and its your choice whether you will pay for it or not.
personally i dont give a flying leap either way as i have one acc. and dont dupe or glitch or permanent borrow,chose to play the game how you want but in all honesty that WAS NOT how they intended you to play the game and as the MAKERS of the game they chose to add a few roadblocks to try and knock alot of it off.
i feel some of your's pain as far as it not being available on all the acc's on a single unit but this is the way they have chosen to do it and now you all have a CHOICE on what YOU want to do.
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