Do you like bad music? If So WhyMusic 

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rosckolove
Are you guys for real? Encyclopedia is entirely right in what he is saying bout subjective and objective opinions.. I read the majority of slashfan and jcm's posts (skipped the novels) that were in disagreement.



actually its funny you said that, its exactly why I chose to reply to this. You guys are entirely failing to grasp what he is saying... (unless that part was in jcm's novel I skipped, sorry if it was)



Subjective Do you like that? If you did, to you it is good music. That is your opinion. It doesn't make it good music, or bad music. Its just your musically unlearned opinion.

Objective Studied musicians would probably want to swallow rat poison before listening to that entire song, because its musically bad. This makes it Actual bad music (even if people like it) It doesn't follow musical method correctly.

You say there isn't set methods in music? Please show me anything you enjoy listening to (actually enjoy) and I will bet my testicles that it is following some type of musical method. Even Primus abides by some type of musical rules. Some guys do it better than others.

That is sort of what Encyclopedia was saying I think.

That Willow Smith song musically speaking, is a bad song compared to this. Regardless of you're like, or dislike for either one.



Will we hear that Willow Smith song on the radio in 50 years? No. Good music has longevity (another chapter to this conversation) to it, there is literally a science to all of it. Thats why people are popping out hit songs every other day that only stick around for a few weeks/months. They have the catchy hook part all figured out.


Bad drag racers don't stay in between the lines. Same goes for bad musicians.. Bad musicians drive fords and barely make it down the track. Good musicians drive chevy's and go down the track again and again and again till the end of time.

Sorry about the last part. I'm a chevy guy. I was just trying to put it in perspective for you :)

cheers.
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Yet I feel as if people aren't grasping what I am saying lol.
 
I like Eurobeat, even though I know it is very repetitive, and with the same basic structures. I listen to it not for the actual music, but for the mood that it gives me, Hi-NRG (High Energy) kind of thing.

That being said, I still do love it, especially the synths at 1:30. :D

(When they cut the songs to about 2 minutes and put them all together, it is quite awesome.)
 
Some bad music is just a guilty pleasure.... My guilty pleasures are, glam metal (except for Poison, I pretty much like them all), and some rap, but not even good rap, lol.
 
Encyclopedia
Let me ask you a question.

Do you or do you not agree that there's both an objective and a subjective side to music?
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Yes I do but only to a certain extent. As I've said, music isn't bad, people just think it's bad. Even if it meets standard criteria that it's bad.
 
All my friends consider Rammstein just to be weird, personally they're my favourite band and I don't see what's wrong with them. I do wonder what people who like Dubstep hear when it's played because to me it just sounds like Transformers performing fallacious upon each other. Wub wub wub...
 
Slashfan
Yes I do but only to a certain extent. As I've said, music isn't bad, people just think it's bad. Even if it meets standard criteria that it's bad.
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But then you're contradicting yourself. If there is an objective side to music, even if it's just to an extent, then there is also an objective to base on which to judge music.

Music can be bad musically, and it can be good musicaly. This is separate from like.

It seems like you're really saying music isn't not enjoyable objectively. And that is true.

Edit: If this isn't bad music I don't know what.... :D

 
Callumfromleeds
All my friends consider Rammstein just to be weird, personally they're my favourite band and I don't see what's wrong with them. I do wonder what people who like Dubstep hear when it's played because to me it just sounds like Transformers performing fallacious upon each other. Wub wub wub...
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I don't agree with the dubstep part...

This, as with almost the entire thread, comes down to taste. You have to find music you like.


I don't like dubstep, really. But, I do like orchestral dubstep (see also: Arkasia.) Why? Because it gives me the same euphoria of bass music (the same "I'm a bad:censored:" feeling you might get from Rammstein,) but without the dissonant "piercing" sounds.


Or, to put it another way, it motivates you, without piercing your ears with terrible sounds.
 
MrMelancholy15
I don't agree with the dubstep part...

This, as with almost the entire thread, comes down to taste. You have to find music you like.


I don't like dubstep, really. But, I do like orchestral dubstep (see also: Arkasia.) Why? Because it gives me the same euphoria of bass music (the same "I'm a bad:censored:" feeling you might get from Rammstein,) but without the dissonant "piercing" sounds.


Or, to put it another way, it motivates you, without piercing your ears with terrible sounds.
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Ah he just stated his opinion, a quite funny one at that. I am going to check out orchestral dubstep. Can you give me some more artists names?
 
I do like drum and bass personally but like you I just don't agree with the 'piercing' sounds, the bass and the beat is fine.
 
I don't listen to much popular music, although I listen to the most popular new pop song ever, Gangnam Style.

I won't listen to much new pop or rap. A lot of the people I know like everything new, and think rock and alternative (what I love) is pure crap.

Here's some of the songs I absolutely hate:

Call Me Maybe by Carly Rae Jepsen
Rack City - Tyga

I also kind of like techno and dubstep, but not the really popular dubstep like Skrillex.
 
GranTurismo916
I don't listen to much popular music, although I listen to the most popular new pop song ever, Gangnam Style.

I won't listen to much new pop or rap. A lot of the people I know like everything new, and think rock and alternative (what I love) is pure crap.

Here's some of the songs I absolutely hate:

Call Me Maybe by Carly Rae Jepsen
Rack City - Tyga

I also kind of like techno and dubstep, but not the really popular dubstep like Skrillex.
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Are you my twin?!
 
I listen to a lot of music that others would probably think is bad, terrible, un-listenable, not-music, or a big bunch of huh?...and I suppose a lot of us do. To be fair, there's probably a lot of music in there that stretches out to the realm of over-played pop and other crap. And probably all of us do the same. But what makes it "bad"? Ignorance? Futility? Ahead of/Behind the times? Poor record sales? Obscurity? Not popular? No longer popular? Hard to listen to? Old? Not created by "real" instruments?

What I think is that we tend to judge a lot of music by its worst fans. In which then I can safely say: If you judge music solely by that criteria, then 105% of all music sucks harder than a collapsed star.

So I guess the real answer is...so what? Bad, without why is a really generic term, and shouldn't be considered as any serious criteria.
 

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