Do you want GT6 for both PS3+PS4

[Foxiol]

So they could have expanded their team or started outsourcing.

About an overlooked ideas. One example: seasonals and races in A-Spec. There are a huge shortage of races in A-spec in comparison to Forza, GT4, GT2. Many cars are useless without designated events. So instead of creating completele new events they were putting the same events (on different tracks and with PP limits) again and again in the seasonals throughtout the whole year and longer. They could have filled this gap but they took the easiest way.

But Gran Turismo 5 is not Forza 4.

They did tons of things wrong and they started with new ones like ONLINE features that we didn´t have before.

I can agree with you that they made horrible decisions in tons of features and overall design of the game, graphics yes is secondary but if they want to AIM at realism they have to start with something...visuals "we can do it, let´s try", then add the rest.

And no I wasn´t talking about graphics...I said something about more cars on tracks, which in a racing game is important. With current hardware is not possible. They "held back" GT6 for PS4 in my eyes because they couldn´t achieve what they wanted.

Their fault of course. But don´t ask them to to otherwise because YOU think that they should...we are not PD....but yes we are COSTUMERS and they need to give us what we want. Not just what you or me want.

We are not going to get it for PS3...that will be a fact by midnight...

 

[ch3ng]

All are you talking about are graphics, framerate, resolution and itp. GT5 is a disappointment mainly in gameplay. Look at Forza, there are many features, ideas which could also have been implemented into GT5 but they haven't. It resulted in many wasted and overlooked opportunities. Even numerous updates have not brought any bigger improvement. I'm affraid the same will happen to GT6. Making this game better requires changing the way of PD's thinking not only a new hardware.

You can add livery editor and other features on PS4 too. Imagine 20-40 cars on track, better physics, better framerate, better AI, real 1080p, better graphics and so on.

I don't want GT 5.5 or GT5 Specs 3. I want the full experience Gt6. In my opinion this isn't possible on PS3.

 

[challengerrt10]

But Gran Turismo 5 is not Forza 4.

They did tons of things wrong and they started with new ones like ONLINE features that we didn´t have before.

I can agree with you that they made horrible decisions in tons of features and overall design of the game, graphics yes is secondary but if they want to AIM at realism they have to start with something...visuals "we can do it, let´s try", then add the rest.

And no I wasn´t talking about graphics...I said something about more cars on tracks, which in a racing game is important. With current hardware is not possible. They "held back" GT6 for PS4 in my eyes because they couldn´t achieve what they wanted.

Their fault of course. But don´t ask them to to otherwise because YOU think that they should...we are not PD....but yes we are COSTUMERS and they need to give us what we want. Not just what you or me want.

We are not going to get it for PS3...that will be a fact by midnight...

They are going to release GT6 on PS4, it's obvious now.
I wanted to highlight that making a very good Gran Turismo game doesn't require a new hardware. It still could be done unless PS4 coming this or next year.

Yes, I agree that ONLINE features was something new to the series (btw why the hell we still can't know in online room how many PP opponents cars have???) but they shouldn't have neglected the offline features and content. For many players it's still important.

As fas as cars and track are concerned....they could have been more if they would have expanded their team or started outsourcing.

And I can bet that GT6 on PS4 will have less car and less diversified than FM4 on Xbox 360.

 

[challengerrt10]

You can add livery editor and other features on PS4 too. Imagine 20-40 cars on track, better physics, better framerate, better AI, real 1080p, better graphics and so on.

I don't want GT 5.5 or GT5 Specs 3. I want the full experience Gt6. In my opinion this isn't possible on PS3.

Livery editor could be added to GT5 if they wanted to do it instead of implementing unneeded Photostream (they also didn't take an advantage of this feature).
20-40 cars on track? For what purpose? Another chasing a rabit? Or overtaking a herd on 3-5 laps?
Better A.I.? I don't think so. PD always promised to improve A.I and to make them more aggressive and challenging in every next game but we saw the results (at least A.I. race clean not like in FM$.

 

[occasionalracer]

GT5 Spec III would be a great idea to give the millions of PS3 owners another token of appreciation. I'm sure the online servers will be alive for at least another year past PS4's release... clearly this generation will take more time to become prominent across the world... heck, many people are still playing PS2, even just a few months ago when PD released sales figures it showed 10's of thousands of new copies of GT4 sold in 2012...

This is off the news section from November 5th:

Polyphony Digital has just released revised sales numbers for the Gran Turismo series as of September 2012.

Despite GT5‘s success, older Gran Turismo games continued to experience demand. Gran Turismo 4 sold an additional 160,000 copies, Gran Turismo (PSP) sold an additional 250,000 copies, and – surprisingly - GT5 Prologue sold over 10,000 additional copies, despite the fact its online services are no longer supported.

If a GT5 Spec III is released (or even remains as is) there will still be tons of GT5 copies sold in 2015...

 

[SubaruWRC555]

I'm so damn broke right now it's not funny!! But that won't stop me from saving all I can especially after what we hear on PS4 coming out!! Imagine the ability of better graphics and hell maybe 30-40 or even 50 cars on track!! I know an endurance race would be fun even if I finished in last place!!!

I hope DLC on GT5 is not done yet but it's been a great ride in meantime.

 

[ch3ng]

20-40 cars on track? For what purpose?

24h endurance race. They can use 15-20 cars on normal races and 40 for 24h endurance races for example.

 

[challengerrt10]

24h endurance race. They can use 15-20 cars on normal races and 40 for 24h endurance races for example.

I think 12 cars is enough for short races (2-5 laps, start from the line) but A.I. must be challenging and race on 100%, cars should be comparable. 20 or more cars would be good for endurance races and NASCAR.

 

[Samus]

Releasing a game like GT on both consoles would be stupid. It passes for things like sports games because they're all the same, you could have most of the features of those games still running on a PS1. For GT the feature set would be very different across two platforms and make the development time so much longer. One console only and if you think it's going to be anything but PS4 when it's announced in a few hours you're bonkers.

 

[ch3ng]

It passes for things like sports games because they're all the same, you could have most of the features of those games still running on a PS1.

I doubt it.

For GT the feature set would be very different across two platforms and make the development time so much longer. One console only and if you think it's going to be anything but PS4 when it's announced in a few hours you're bonkers.

I think it is save to say that we will see GT6 only on PS4. I think it is a good decision from Sony/PD. This time they can make a better GT hopefully.

 

[Exorcet]

20-40 cars on track? For what purpose? Another chasing a rabit? Or overtaking a herd on 3-5 laps?

Why not? I think a more crowded field would be interesting, especially online.

Number of cars has nothing to do with rabbit chasing, that is all PD.

24h endurance race. They can use 15-20 cars on normal races and 40 for 24h endurance races for example.

Why not 40 cars for all races?

I think 12 cars is enough for short races (2-5 laps, start from the line) but A.I. must be challenging and race on 100%, cars should be comparable. 20 or more cars would be good for endurance races and NASCAR.

Again what does race type have to do with the number of cars? Seems pointless to have 40 car grids available and then never use them.

If you're worried about not having time to pass all the cars, don't worry, GT6 should have qualification. It's a racing game after all, and it's only part of a 15 year old series. Surely GT6 will have qualification. Certainly...

If it doesn't, then they can just stick you in 6th place every time.

 

[JDmsz]

Now how in the hell Gran Turismo 6 is going to be for Ps3? People already having downloading issues with all the updates you got to download in order to play online. If gran Turismo 6 is for ps3, the second you put the disc in, the ps3 will explode. Yes I know some of ya'll want gt6 for ps3 because you can't afford a ps4 at the moment. I can't either. But it will be best to release gran Turismo 6 for the ps4 because it has triple or quad the memory power than a ps3. PD will have so much space to add premium everything.

 

[JDmsz]

Now how in the hell Gran Turismo 6 is going to be for Ps3? People already having downloading issues with all the updates you got to download in order to play online. If gran Turismo 6 is for ps3, the second you put the disc in, the ps3 will explode. Yes I know some of ya'll want gt6 for ps3 because you can't afford a ps4 at the moment. I can't either. But it will be best to release gran Turismo 6 for the ps4 because it has triple or quad the memory power than a ps3. PD will have so much space to add premium everything.

And all you die hard gran Turismo fans will still complain if gt6 is for ps3 because the game requires to much data.

 

[Samus]

Whilst I don't for a second think it will be on PS3 your reasoning for it not being on PS3 is way off. GT5 in terms of pure size is tiny, around 15GB. Not troubling a dual layer 50GB Blu-Ray at all and neither would a hypothetical GT6 on that console.

 

[challengerrt10]

Why not? I think a more crowded field would be interesting, especially online.

Number of cars has nothing to do with rabbit chasing, that is all PD.



Why not 40 cars for all races?



Again what does race type have to do with the number of cars? Seems pointless to have 40 car grids available and then never use them.

If you're worried about not having time to pass all the cars, don't worry, GT6 should have qualification. It's a racing game after all, and it's only part of a 15 year old series. Surely GT6 will have qualification. Certainly...

If it doesn't, then they can just stick you in 6th place every time.

What it have to do you can see when you choose Grand Tour with Scuderia or race on tracks made with the course maker. 16 cars starting from the line and you can easily and clean overtake ten of them on the starting straight. A.I. is not challenging, is better to have 8-12 opponents and more aggresive like it is in Forza 4. 20 and more, yes, but on longer distances. And all cars should be stock or tuned to exactly the same PP level.

And also they should implement difficulty levels for every race in A-Spec. I hope they will change it in GT6 on PS4

 

[Samus]

Why can't we have bigger grids and better AI? Why would it have to be one or the other, relatively ancient PC games can do both, no reason why 10+ years later a console shouldn't be able to.

 

[challengerrt10]

Why can't we have bigger grids and better AI? Why would it have to be one or the other, relatively ancient PC games can do both, no reason why 10+ years later a console shouldn't be able to.

Because I don't think they will significantly improve A.I. in GT6. The promises won't be fulfilled.

 

[Samus]

Because I don't think they will significantly improve A.I. in GT6. The promises won't be fulfilled.

That's fine but having less cars on track doesn't make it more likely for them to improve it. They have the technology to do both, they need the skills to make the AI better.

 

[challengerrt10]

That's fine but having less cars on track doesn't make it more likely for them to improve it. They have the technology to do both, they need the skills to make the AI better.

I'm not a developer but I think it may have influence on it. Maybe the hardware can't process too much data for every specific situation for each A.I. Cars. and it is easier for A.1. cars to follow the set route without making any highly unusual movements. Especially when there are a lot of them at the same time and same place. You can see it in Grand Tour Suderia race along the starting straight.


And if it didn't matter they could set 40 cars with the rolling start in GT5. They wouldn't race close to each other, the hardware would handle that but A.I would be completely dumb I think.

 

[Samus]

Like I said if PC sims could technically do it years ago the PS4 should be able to.

 

[DSUjoeDirte9]

At first i wanted GT6 to be on ps3, but if the thing about the ps4 being only like $400 on release instead of like $600 like the ps3 was then ill be fine with a PS4 Release.

 

[KinLM]

Just noooooo. I believe sony will start the ps4 cost at about $700 the game maybe $80-$100. Just becuase its new. I don't want to wait knowing that GT6 is out their. I'll just be in my room watching tons of gameplay about Gt6 day dreaming if I should shell out that much cash. If it was my money I might do it. But then again that much money could be better used for college a new computer. Food I DONT KNOW. I hope is reasonably priced both the game and console.

You seem to be failing to realize that Sony only making it on the PS4 would be a HUGE business boost for them. Meaning they would make more money. Which is what businesses sorta want to do.

I can't believe that you called Sony and PD stupid simply because they want to only make GT6 for one system. I mean, yeah, it's really stupid for them to make people buy the PS4. It's not like Sony's gonna get more money by doing that. And it's not like PD can't make GT6 any better than GT5 on the PS3, it's at it's maximum potential. There's nothing to gain from making it for the PS3.

If you actually expect it to be released on both systems, all I can say is.. Well, sorry buddy.

 

[KinLM]

I wish they would release GT6 also on PS3. Turn 10 has shown that it is possible to develop an astonishing, well-made and completed game on the current generetion. PS3 deserves its also. GT needs many improvements which can be done on PS3, so don't say that GT5 is already on the edge of PS3's capabilities, maybe in terms of graphics but surely not in aspect of gameplay.

It is on the edge of its capabilities in gameplay. They can't squeeze anything else from the PS3. It's at it's limits.

Now yes, they could refine the game and make it all feel complete. But, why not do that on the PS4? Then, everybody will say "Hey, GT6 sounds like a great game, maybe I'll buy the new PS4 instead of that new Xbox!"

Also, this isn't a FM vs. GT thread. If you wanna compare anything of GT with Forza, then don't do it here.

 

[NFSCARBON1]

Right, so it seems that some games are being developed as a dual release on PS3 and PS4. Hopefully this will mean GT6 could be released on both consoles, without there being too much discrepancy between the different versions. Now while it will not be as much of an incentive to buy the PS4, by having a dual release those who do get the new console can still enjoy GT, while those who can't afford the PS4 can play GT6 too.

 

[KinLM]

Right, so it seems that some games are being developed as a dual release on PS3 and PS4. Hopefully this will mean GT6 could be released on both consoles, without there being too much discrepancy between the different versions. Now while it will not be as much of an incentive to buy the PS4, by having a dual release those who do get the new console can still enjoy GT, while those who can't afford the PS4 can play GT6 too.

Simply not going to happen. Sony isn't going to allow one of their top companies to make a new game for the PS3. EA/EA Sports probably will make dual console releases, but not PD. It would be stupid on Sony's part to not use PD to help their PS4 sales.

Sorry, but it isn't going to happen.

 

[Prodriver13]

While it's unfortunate that only 1 full GT title was released for the PS3, I would much rather have it be released (if not a launch title; it's a stretch, I know) for the PS4. They'd be able to accomplish so much more with how much the PS4 can process.

 

[seriouswapanese]

there's absolutely no way GT6 will be on PS3, the system will be dead come 2014.

 

[XoravaX]

Well.. PS4 is out this year most likely.. there's no reason for them to use the old hardware, when they can make something look 10 times better..

Exactly my thoughts.

Why not 40 cars for all races?

Wouldn't the Sunday Cup become a bit crowded? Around 16-24 cars would be good for normal races.

I'd like to see different car classes competing in a same race like real endurance races, which would make use for 40 cars on track simultaneously. You would have to enter Le Mans 24h twice (four would be a bit too much for a single 24h race) with different classes, the other being eg. LMP1 and the other LMP2/LMGTE.

 

[thelvynau]

there's absolutely no way GT6 will be on PS3, the system will be dead come 2014.

Not dead they will still support ps3 for a few years after the ps4 releases.

But your right about gt6 on ps4.

 

[seriouswapanese]

Not dead they will still support ps3 for a few years after the ps4 releases.

But your right about gt6 on ps4.

sorry, i should've said dead to me and just about everyone else that can afford the PS4 on launch as the release is holiday 2013.