Does anyone else feel like the star roulette tickets are rigged?

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Ugh, got my first 6 star ticket yesterday, and there was a gold bar, stack of gold bars, engine swap, McLaren GR4, and an invite for Pagani. Guess which one is the only one I didn't want? That stupid invite. Guess which one I got? That stupid invite.

I don't have any desire to buy the Huayra, and it will likely be one of the last cars I ever acquire in game because hyper road cars are some of the least interesting parts of GT. A six-star ticket and it basically gave me nothing. Less than nothing, due it it feeling like a slap in the face.

Still love the game, but there are parts of it that just flat out suck. AI can die in a fire.
 
Here is a quote from uk national lottery about their online scratch cards:

They continued in a statement: "The outcome of every National Lottery Instant Win Game play is pre-determined at time of purchase, and the animation is purely for entertainment purposes.

i guess this is the same on GT, but just worded better.
 
I've gotten worst rewards (5-10k) 5 times in a row now. Sure I got lucky with some of the tickets while playing the game since launch (no 1+ million cars though), but in general the amount time I got laughable cash rewards makes the reward system feel like it's rigged to not reward you too much.
 
regnar
I believe, by default the roulette tickets will always reward you with the lowest prize, but some action that the player causes in the game will bring a ticket that pays.
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And do you have any idea of which actions could get us better prizes ? I am certainly doing something wrong cause I get worst prize 99% of the time :mad:
 
Lomic
And do you have any idea of which actions could get us better prizes ? I am certainly doing something wrong cause I get worst prize 99% of the time :mad:
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It should be closer to 70% of the time. You also have to consider that getting a higher tier ticket is another level of RNG on top of the rewards themselves.
I don't think there's any correlation between the activity you're doing at the time of getting a ticket and the ticket itself. At least I've not see any.
 
My spouse got 2 race cars in a row on roulette tickets and then the gold bar 100k. He's gotten about 5 cars now from tickets.
I won my first car on a roulette ticket today. Maybe my luck is about to change?
 
Supaboost
Just another in a long list of moronic decisions.
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That's not moronic, that's intended. You will need more credits to buy usefull parts. The lower the prizes they give, the better it is for them, because there is an easy way to alleviate your frustration...

Where they have been total morons is when they decided the price of MTX, 20$ for 2M credits is dumb, when the high end cars cost 20M. 2 or 4$ for 20M and many people would latch on them instead of grinding ad nauseam. Better have 1M players buying 5-10$ per month in MTX than 1k buying 200$ once.
 
Lomic
Where they have been total morons is when they decided the price of MTX, 20$ for 2M credits is dumb, when the high end cars cost 20M. 2 or 4$ for 20M and many people would latch on them instead of grinding ad nauseam. Better have 1M players buying 5-10$ per month in MTX than 1k buying 200$ once.
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Agreed, and said this before, I paid £2.50 for the Porsche 919 on GT Sport to take part in an FIA event and I felt this was perfectly reasonable. The same car would be over £25 in GT7 and I'm obviously not going to do that.

So instead of £2.50 (and I ended up buying about 8 cars altogether in Sport over my time with it I think, so about £20), they get £0.

Smart!
 
A roulette animation to disguise the fixed reward, that's all it is.
Bravo PD.

Lomic
That's not moronic, that's intended. You will need more credits to buy usefull parts. The lower the prizes they give, the better it is for them, because there is an easy way to alleviate your frustration...

Where they have been total morons is when they decided the price of MTX, 20$ for 2M credits is dumb, when the high end cars cost 20M. 2 or 4$ for 20M and many people would latch on them instead of grinding ad nauseam. Better have 1M players buying 5-10$ per month in MTX than 1k buying 200$ once.
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Most developers with MTX in their game/s make the same mistake of overcharging for items in said game.This leads to many players NOT buying those items.Sell item/s at a reasonable price means players will be able to afford them and you'll have more sales, which equals more profits.But all they think about is maximising on gaining the most profit per item, which has the opposite effect.
 
Max_HP
Most developers with MTX in their game/s make the same mistake of overcharging for items in said game.This leads to many players NOT buying those items.Sell item/s at a reasonable price means players will be able to afford them and you'll have more sales, which equals more profits.But all they think about is maximising on gaining the most profit per item, which has the opposite effect.
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Most devs with MTX get it 100% spot on with regard to pricing in order to maximise the revenue to themselves, and Sony will 100% have done that. What Sony/PD misjudged isn't the revenue model, but eh backlash, and a good chance exists that it would have got a lot less coverage if the server downtime hadn't of occurred and PD hadn't been stupid enough to double-down on it by reducing event pay-outs (both of which were PD's own damn fault).

Industry data shows that 50% of MTX revenue comes from just 0.15% of the games audience, and to quote myself from another thread:

"Sony will have crunched the numbers on this, zero chance that hasn't happened and what we have, is what they see as the model most likely to bring them the highest additional revenue for the title, and they will have based it on what people spent on GTS MTX. They will know how many spent, what they spent in total, what the highest spends were and what the max spend percentile was and how much they spent each.

If we take the GTA V example, they have circa 33 million on-line players, and made $600 million in microtransaction revenue in 2019, that works out to be 495,000 people (0.15%) spending $300 million (50%) which is $606 as an average for each one. If Sony could match that spend in GT7, and it sold say 10 million copies, that's just shy of $90 million from the 0.15% and $180 million in total. 70% @ $2.49 is just under $17.5 million for comparison.

Now you and I might not spend $606 on MTX (well I know for a fact I never would), but their are people out there who will, it might be in large chucks, it might be broken up over the course of a year or two, but they most certainly exist, and 0.15% is a low target to need to hit to get a huge revenue.

It's not unreasonable for Sony to conclude that if Rockstar can get those kind of spends out of GTAV, they should be able to get them out of GT7."

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BlackHGT
have never received a ticket above 4 stars. I didn't even know that there were 5 or 6 star tickets. How do you get one?
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last event of the café will bring you a 6 stars and hopefully a nice prize on the roulette (but you mau end up with an invite you absolutely don't care about)
 
After not getting hardly anything on roulettes, today I got a gold bar (100k) on a two star ticket, and then 5 gold bars (500k) on a 5 star ticket. Also got a FK2 Civic R, which is better than some lame invite or mod for a car I don't own.

Pretty good day at the tables today boys.
 
So so bored of 5k… why they can’t throw some fancy exhausts or brakes that only cost 5-15k at you so at least you feel that you won something cool, is beyond me.
 
People... I don't think you have realized it already but... 500k or even 1 million on a 5 and 6 star ticket respectively is usually the worst prize in those tickets. So I don't really get why people get "happy" for those prizes... Or rather, I do, because we are so used to measly 5 and 10k credit rewards that 500k seems like a blessing... But then you look that it's from the incredibly rare 5 and 6 star tickets and you start thinking otherwise.

A 1 Star ticket should give minimum 30k (Maximum 100k)
A 2 Star ticket should give minimum 50k (Maximum 250k)
A 3 Star ticket should give minimum 100k (Maximum 500k)
A 4 Star ticket should give minimum 250k (Maximum 1 million)
A 5 Star ticket should give minimum 500k (Maximum 2.5 million)
A 6 Star ticket should give minimum 1 million (Maximum 5 million)

Engine Swaps and Car Invitations should be reworked and removed from this system, as well as Special Car parts, either you can buy them on the tune shop for a "reasonably high" amount of credits, or you have to get them via winning some special events, and in the case of car invitations, you should be able to get an invitation after you buy a few cars from the brand, ergo, you need to buy the Zonda R for the Huayra, or buy 2 or 3 Ferraris for the Enzo/LaFerrari/FXX K, and so on.

The Roulette should only give 4 things: Cash, Cars, NORMAL car parts and NEW Engines/Chassis.
Nothing more. And the Normal car parts should only be part of 1 and 2 star tickets as these parts have a maximum cost of just about 40-50k for the most expensive parts (Soft tyres, High RPM Turbos, etc).


Let me just tell it right now how it is.

If you are ridiculously unlucky, like I have been... You will NEVER have an engine swap or special car part on this game, or even worse, you will never get acess to some of the cars because you will never get an invitation for them.

It's abysmal really. Yeah, sooner or later you will be lucky and get those unique engine swaps, car parts and inviations, but how long can that take for some people? Months? Years?
Come on PD, you clearly didn't think things through did you? And this isn't even about MTXs because you literally can't even buy invitations or special car parts/engine swaps with credits.

It blows my mind how can a supposed experienced developer like PD come up with horrendously bad designed crap like this!?

EDIT: Another 2 star ticket giving me 5k... *sigh
 
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Grimm6Jack
Engine Swaps and Car Invitations should be reworked and removed from this system, as well as Special Car parts, either you can buy them on the tune shop for a "reasonably high" amount of credits, or you have to get them via winning some special events, and in the case of car invitations, you should be able to get an invitation after you buy a few cars from the brand, ergo, you need to buy the Zonda R for the Huayra, or buy 2 or 3 Ferraris for the Enzo/LaFerrari/FXX K, and so on.
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Yeah, I kinda like the idea of invitations to buy certain cars to mimic the way buying such cars works in real life, but in real life it's a case of buying enough lower-end cars to be allowed to buy the most exclusive ones. Tying anything solely to the roulette system is dumb.
 
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