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Not happy 
that I am kept in the dark other than the car make/model of the next release 
that I am kept in the dark other than the car make/model of the next release 
Elegance Automotive Guild - Remembering TurnLeft.
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Decided to challenge myself and the C1 and tried to win the Beginner's level Classic Sports race at Brands Hatch on CH's after 3 close 2nd place finishes I finally hooked her up for a win with a last corner overtake under braking against the Dino. As always she was a pleasure to drive
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I just finished running the E.A.G. Corvette in the Beginner's Level Seasonal Event at Brands Hatch. My victory was only with CS tires, however, so it is nothing like the accomplishment of @RMan72... Well done, RMan72! That's pretty killer on CH tires!!
I forgot that I have ABS turned off for this car. I prepared to brake hard and turn in at Paddock Hill Bend. My foot went down firmer than I planned and I locked 'em up! My poor Corvette went skidding right into the sand. Thankfully I wasn't in it too deep and I drove out and proceeded to win the race. Even when I do use ABS=1, I almost never just slam on the brake pedal. Only if I've misjudged something, or I'm racing with friends and I'm trying to avoid a collision. But, I must have pressed this pedal too hard/too quickly.
This Corvette truly is a delight to drive. Once again, bravo to the EAG team!
I forgot that I have ABS turned off for this car. I prepared to brake hard and turn in at Paddock Hill Bend. My foot went down firmer than I planned and I locked 'em up! My poor Corvette went skidding right into the sand. Thankfully I wasn't in it too deep and I drove out and proceeded to win the race. Even when I do use ABS=1, I almost never just slam on the brake pedal. Only if I've misjudged something, or I'm racing with friends and I'm trying to avoid a collision. But, I must have pressed this pedal too hard/too quickly.
This Corvette truly is a delight to drive. Once again, bravo to the EAG team!
Thorin Cain
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Well done ALB! Congrats on the win, I'm sure there will be another trophy added to the cabinet later
Good to hear 👍 Except the Paddock Hill Bend bit of course
If I had a dollar for every time I've done the very same thing in the very same place....
It just seems to suck you in sometimes. Remember the last time you run off and you give it too much respect next time. Then the next lap you push again because you took it too easy and it's back in the sand-box 
Hope to see you later at Suzuka
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👍👍👍 It does take a while to get use to it but I find you feel so much better knowing that you have mastered the car without driving aids, just feels great.The "never give up" mantra is the driving force for me as I have truly never got my head around driving without ABS. It seems that I may have cracked it, at least with the C1. Consistent mid 58s and another 1st place.
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@RMan72 , @lilcat89 , & @ALB123 , sorry if I haven't updated the trophy room, it will be done as soon as I get this mountain of files on my computer desk organized for tomorrow . It's been a crazy week and an even crazier day + it's mothers day tomorrow , if everything goes well 
we should be able to have the new model out late in the day, after that I'll catch up on my back log of data to enter and proudly award the appropriate trophies . Thanks for your comprehension. 
. It's been a crazy week and an even crazier day + it's mothers day tomorrow , if everything goes well we should be able to have the new model out late in the day, after that I'll catch up on my back log of data to enter and proudly award the appropriate trophies . Thanks for your comprehension.
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Oh, no need to apologize! I know how busy you guys are putting the finishing touches on the car. You guys put so much time into EAG already...I don't post about using your car for a trophy - I just let you know so you're aware the car is being put to good use.@RMan72 , @lilcat89 , & @ALB123 , sorry if I haven't updated the trophy room, it will be done as soon as I get this mountain of files on my computer desk organized for tomorrow
👍
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And it's always appreciated my friendOh, no need to apologize! I know how busy you guys are putting the finishing touches on the car. You guys put so much time into EAG already...I don't post about using your car for a trophy - I just let you know so you're aware the car is being put to good use.
It's great the Corvette is getting some good mileage and giving a few smiles too 👍 Now, speaking of finishing touches. There is little request for you on the E.A.Gmail
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I gotta say the suspense is killing meAnd it's always appreciated my friend
Now, speaking of finishing touches. There is little request for you on the E.A.Gmail
What country does the new elegant automobile hail from?
Thorin Cain
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Thorin Cain
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I don't know if this will help but I've found a picture where you might be able to see the companies headquarters.
View attachment 363166 can you see it???
Pete05
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Do you want me to hum it again?
I don't know if this will help but I've found a picture where you might be able to see the companies headquarters.
View attachment 363166 can you see it???
You guys
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Not a problem, I know you are busy on bringing us a new car.@RMan72 , @lilcat89 , & @ALB123 , sorry if I haven't updated the trophy room, it will be done as soon as I get this mountain of files on my computer desk organized for tomorrow
As I've said before she's a pleasure to drive. She's taught me a few new driving techniques and introduced me to Comfort (tyres not the fabric conditioner)
Looking forward to getting to grips with EAG's new car.
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Hey @Pete05 I know @Thorin Cain 's humming is not that good 
, so I got you the musical part of the national anthem, now I can't give you much more clues than this, just hum it and you should get it , it's easy it sounds like this ... dum da, dum dum dum dum, dum da dum dum dum ... easy no?
, so I got you the musical part of the national anthem, now I can't give you much more clues than this, just hum it and you should get it , it's easy it sounds like this ... dum da, dum dum dum dum, dum da dum dum dum ... easy no?
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The humming didn't help. Too many dums & not enough das.Hey @Pete05 I know @Thorin Cain 's humming is not that good
I used to love music class at school. Definitely my best subject. I couldn't get enough of the practical part but hated the theory. It all looked like hyrogliphics to me so the sheet music may as well be the 1812 overture
Thorin Cain
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I'm sure I just heard this on TVHey @Pete05 I know @Thorin Cain 's humming is not that good
Pete05
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Hmmmm, interesting.I'm sure I just heard this on TV
You weren't just watching the F1 from Spain were you?
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Thorin Cain
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This is a special build which has been brought forward in appreciation for @danbojte nominating our previous build for TotW. Both @TurnLeft and myself really appreciate that Dan broke his own rule and used a standard car, just to try out our work. And even more that he felt it worthy of being nominated above all of the others around for the honour that it was awarded. So we decided to make sure the next one he tries had a nicer interior to look at
The build itself was a no-brainer for our first premium car. It was the first car that came to mind when TL approached me about ideas for our banner and the design inspired by our friend @Leoz96, who provided us with our garage banner and many great pictures to be used in out Corvette project. When it came to the paint and body styling options, to go with his choices that were used for the picture in the banner was obvious ..Then @Brewguy44 picked the wheels
So without further ado, here is car number 2...
Picture by @Leoz96
Mercedes 300SL – Scenario
By @Thorin Cain
We were contacted about this build by E-mail. It seems that a well known GT Racing Driver had recently purchased the car after the previous owner had decided it would be too costly to restore it. He came to us after being impressed by the job we did on out first full restoration, being a friend of the owner of that car and all.
We contacted the driver not long after we received his initial E-mail to ascertain his vision for the car. After a bit of a back and forth by E-mail, we got him on the phone and discussed what he was looking for.
TC- So what is it you are looking for with this car?
Driver- I want it to look like new and drive like new. The last owner replaced the engine already but I suppose a new gearbox would be good.
TC - Someone replaced the engine, was it beyond repair?
Driver - No he just wanted more power, the old one was included in the sale, so I still have it.
TC - That's good, I hate to see original part going to waste. So are you looking at a 5-speed or 6-speed? I take it you will be wanting a manual?
Driver – I think a 5-speed manual should do, it only has about 240 horses. Just something that'll put the power down a bit better.
TC – What about the looks? any paint colour in mind?
Driver – I just want it to look a bit more up-to date. It's a great looking car but I'd like it just to look a bit different. A bit more modern, but still classic looking.
TC – Oh, it's a beautiful car alright. I'd hate to ruin the look of the old SL. Some new wheels maybe? I'm sure the guys will have some ideas.
Driver – Yeah, definitely. I've not really got any set ideas for the colour.
TC – There's plenty of options from the factory range we could get you some samples and some wheel designs over to you if you want.
Driver – That's OK. I'll trust your judgement on it. I know you guys will do a good job with it. I'll make the arrangements to have it shipped over to you.
TC - Excellent, I look forward to it arriving. Thank you for giving us the opportunity of working on your car. It's a real honour for us. We're all big fans over here.
Driver – The pleasure will be mine. I can't wait till it's done.
TC – We'll make it a priority,. And we really do appreciate you thinking of us for this job. It'll be great to get to work on your car. You take care now.
Driver – That's great. I know I'll be happy with it. Thanks, bye.
Once I got off the phone I turned to the guys and told them what was happening. Their faces said it all this was going to be a great project.
Mercedes-Benz 300SL – A History
By @ALB123
In 1952 Mercedes-Benz entered the W194 for Gran Prix racing. They hadn’t entered a car since WWII and they were looking to reclaim some of their previous pre-war glory. The W194 did just that. Powered by a 3.0 liter straight-6, the W194 rattled off an impressive list of victories that included the 24 Hours of Le Mans, Bern-Bremgarten, the Eifelrennen at Nürburgring, and Mexico's Carrera Panamericana.
Max Hoffman was head of Mercedes-Benz distribution in the United States and he took great notice of this very successful race car. Max was convinced that a street-going version of the car would be a smashing success for Mercedes, especially in America. Stuttgart decided to listen to Mr. Hoffman and thus the Mercedes-Benz 300SL was born in 1954.
The cars produced by Daimler-Benz already enjoyed a reputation of building very respectable, but often boring, luxury automobiles. The 300SL would prove to the Americans that Mercedes could also build high-performance sport cars. In fact, out of the 1400 (coupe) 300SL’s built, it is estimated that 80% of those cars were sold in the United States. It isn’t hard to imagine why. The Mercedes SL300 is a gorgeous automobile with looks that have stood the test of time. American cars in the 1950’s had flashy paint jobs or enormous tailfins that begged for your attention. The 300SL took a different approach to design. Some might actually consider its design utilitarian, that is, until you catch a glimpse of those “Gullwing” doors.
To the uninitiated, those Gullwing doors might appear gimmicky, but they actually served a purpose. Rudolf Uhlenhaut, the chief developing engineer at Daimler-Benz, was responsible for the car’s overall design and he was incorporating a welded aluminum tube spaceframe chassis – borrowed from the W194 race car. Traditional doors were impossible as this metal skeleton completely enveloped the passenger compartment. Such a chassis also saved a lot of weight and Uhlenhaut wanted the 300SL to be as lightweight as possible. Light weight equates to more speed. In fact, the letters “SL”, in the car’s model designation stand for “Sports Light” because of this design element.
The 300SL Benz was the fastest production car of its day. It isn’t surprising considering Mercedes was squeezing 215 horsepower out of this overhead-cam straight-6. The engine was actually borrowed from the regular, four-door Mercedes Benz 300, but instead of Solex carburetors, a groundbreaking Bosch mechanical direct fuel injection was installed. This street legal 300SL actually produced 25% more horsepower than the W194 race car and almost double the horsepower produced by the four-door 300!
Mercedes-Benz engineers made sure the 300SL was aerodynamically advanced for its day. Horizontal “eyebrows” were placed over the wheel arches in order to reduce drag. Also, its engine was tilted 45 degrees to allow an especially low hood line for less wind resistance, which was highly unusual at that time. Finally, the 300SL had four-wheel independent suspension Installed, which along with its precise steering made for a quite comfortable and well handling car.
In time, the powers that be in Stuttgart decided that a convertible 300SL should also be a hit so production began on the Roadster version in 1957. The Roadster actually outsold the Coupe with 1858 units moved. Still, it’s the Coupe that people truly remember and its iconic Gullwing doors continue to live on in the current day Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG. It’s not uncommon to see well maintained 300SLs sell for $500,000 today.
Mercedes-Benz 300SL Vitals:
Production 1952–1953 (racing car)
1954–1963 (production car)
Total Cars: 3,258 built
Coupé: 1,400
Roadster: 1,858
Class Sports car, GT
Body style 2 door coupé, roadster
Layout FR layout
Platform Mercedes-Benz W198
Powertrain
Engine 2996 cc M198 SOHC I6
212-222 hp
Transmission 4-speed manual
Dimensions
Wheelbase 2,400 mm (94.5 in)
Length 4,520 mm (178.0 in)
Width 1,790 mm (70.5 in)
Height 1,300 mm (51.2 in)
Curb weight 1,295kg (2,410 lb)
The tune.
Mercedes 300SL Coupe '54
Specifications:
Performance Points: 426pp
Max. power: 253 bhp
Weight: 1295 kg
Weight Distribution: 51:49 (as close to 50:50 with 1295kg we could get)
Drivetrain: FR
Parts Fitted:
Purchase car in: Schwartz
Body Paint: Hot Chocolate Metallic (Mini Cooper s '11)
Wheels - Size up 1" - ENKEI Baja
Wheel Paint: GT CHROME 001-W
Aero: Kit A
Fully customizable Suspension
Fully Customizable Transmission
Fully Customizable Limited-Slip Differential
Semi-Racing Exhaust
Sports Catalytic Converter
Intake tuning
Weight Reduction Stage 2
Window weight reduction
Tyres: Comfort Medium.
Suspension settings:
Ride Height: 110/110
Spring Rate: 5.89/4.73
Dampers(Com): 4/3
Dampers(Ext): 6/6
Anti-Roll Bars: 5/3
Camber: 0.7/0.0
Toe Angle: 0.08/0.25
Brake Balance: 5/10 (For ABS=1, feel free to use higher values.)
Drivetrain:
Initial Torque: 12
Acceleration Sensitivity: 24
Braking Sensitivity: 24
Power:
Power Limiter: 98.7%
Body:
Ballast Amount: 179 kg
Ballast Position: 50
Transmission:
Set Final Gear@: 3.700
Set top Speed @: 199 mph
Set Individual ratios to:
1 - 2.750
2 - 1.790
3 - 1.230
4 - 1.000
5 - 0.833
Final gear - 3.640
Below are PDF files with the work carried out and parts used on the car to achieve the values we have used in the tune. Please feel free to have a look through them and also check out the Parts and services post below for more information if you fancy.
Thank you for taking the time to visit us. We are glad to see you as always and welcome you back any time.
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Be sure to join us on the Mercedes 300SL Grand Tour event at The Nurburgring Nordschleife. Detail will be posted soon and an on-line race event will be organised in the future. Stay tuned for details.
LINKS TO GRAND TOUR, PARTS and Trophy cabinet when available.
Thank you for taking the time to visit us. We are glad to see you as always and welcome you back any time.
Back To Index
Be sure to join us on the Mercedes 300SL Grand Tour event at The Nurburgring Nordschleife. Detail will be posted soon and an on-line race event will be organised in the future. Stay tuned for details.
LINKS TO GRAND TOUR, PARTS and Trophy cabinet when available.
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Chrome:http://www.ashfordchroming.com/automotive-chrome-plating
Blasting:http://www.acsodablasting.co.uk/default.html
Interior:http://www.tappersupholstery.com/automotive.html?gclid=CNiiudaMr8UCFfMZtAodTU0Ang
Wheels:http://300sl.org/technik-300-sl-w198-technology-300-sl-w198/
http://www.enkei.co.jp/wheels/neoclassic/enkei_baja/
Tires:http://www.blackcircles.com/order/tyres?&width=205&profile=60&rim=R16&speed=V
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/mic...t=1&dimensionId=primacy-hp-00223-194404-13579
http://www.autosnout.com/Car-Performance-Statistics.php?EditionID=738
http://www.autosnout.com/Car-Performance-Statistics.php?Specs&EditionID=825
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1199.html
https://www.niemoeller.de/300SL-en/B040-10.html
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/enthusiast/classic_center
http://www.zf.com/corporate/media/z...4__s_5-24-2__s_5-24-3/F_42673_RT_3153_869.pdf
http://www.zf.com/corporate/media/z..._5-24-2__s_5-24-3/Datenblatt_S5-24_2_1069.pdf
http://www.zf.com/media/media/document/int_print_catalogs_documents/usa_4/S542_SpareParts.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_5G-Tronic_transmission
http://www.blueskymotorsports.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=6
http://www.bellevillesprings.com/belleville-washers.html
http://www.zf.com/corporate/de_de/p...rs_differential_with_welded_crown_wheel.shtml
https://www.gartrac.com/shop/transmission/zf-slip-parts.html
http://www.springcoil.co.uk/suspension_springs.html
http://www.motorera.com/models/mercedes.html
http://www.jltechno.com/en/alignment_specs.php?brand=MERCEDES-BENZ&ModelName=300SL&ModelID=613938
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...SPEN-Rear_Toe_Adjustment_Link_Replacement.htm
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Welcome to the Mercedes-Benz 300SL Coupe '54 EAG Grand Tour at the famous Nurbugring Nordscleife. To participate all you have to do is run some clean laps and post your best time in this thread. You may also post a couple of your best pics with this car, we will add them to our gallery.
The rules are simple,
1. Car tuned as per spec sheet with CM (Comfort Medium tires). BB may be set to the drivers needs.
2. Use Nurburgring Nordscleife in Arcade Mode - Single Player - Time Trial - Track grip set to real.
3. ABS=0, TC=0, SRF=Off, Active Steering=Off, ASM=Off, you can use the AT but to get the true feel of this I recommend using MT (Manual Transmission). For those not familiar with ABS set to zero, it really doesn’t take long to get the hang of it with this car, when going fast down a slope hit the brakes hard for about 1 second then release and reapply the brakes gradually, also using MT helps to slow down by down shifting.
4. Post your best lap time and we will add it to our score board. This should be a clean lap, time counter turning to red disqualifies you.
5. You may post your new lap records as many times as you succeed in doing them.
6. Comments are always appreciated, even if you didn’t like it.
7. You may post a couple of pictures taken on your best lap time so we can put them in our Corvette Gallery.
8. Have fun and enjoy the ride, that's what all this is about.
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