Europe - The Official Thread

[baldgye]

Quite simply, you'd said the word should be removed.

 

[SestoScudo]

Do people even know what a no go zone is??

So called European no go zones do not even come close to the ones in Turkey, Brazil, Mexico, Syria, Libya and Somalia.

 

[UKMikey]

Meanwhile the internet may become a no-go zone (j/k) as the EU parliament votes to approve the digital copyright law after all.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/12/eu-lawmakers-pass-controversial-digital-copyright-law.html

It could be a while longer yet though:

Now that politicians in Strasbourg have come to an agreement, the next stage for the law will be what's known as "trilogue," which consists of talks between European Parliament, EU executive body the European Commission, and a collective of the leaders of EU member states known as the European Council.

And even once the directive goes through this process, it will still require each individual EU nation to decide on how they will implement the new rules.

 

[HenrySwanson]

It's good to see you finally posting a story about immigrants integrating with the communities they're joining.

I guess this is integrating into Western society too:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ed-to-take-place-in-muslim-communities-becau/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_with_Darwen#Local_elections_2

and lest we forget:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutfur_Rahman_(politician)#Mayor_of_Tower_Hamlets

Those are all instances just in Britain....

 

[UKMikey]

I guess this is integrating into Western society too:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ed-to-take-place-in-muslim-communities-becau/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_with_Darwen#Local_elections_2

and lest we forget:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutfur_Rahman_(politician)#Mayor_of_Tower_Hamlets

Those are all instances just in Britain....

The Telegraph article is behind a paywall. The two wikipedia articles deal with voter fraud and local government corruption. Not sure what evidence this provides that furriners aren't integrating. It's just crooked politicos unless they were somehow corrupt because they were immigrants.

 

[novcze]

just watched this, looks like voting in Sweden is a joke

 

[TexRex]

The Telegraph article is behind a paywall.

To be fair, removal of the wall appears to require registration rather than payment. That said, I can't be bothered to register and I wouldn't expect anyone else to either.

 

[UKMikey]

To be fair, removal of the wall appears to require registration rather than payment. That said, I can't be bothered to register and I wouldn't expect anyone else to either.

Clarification accepted and fully endorsed. It's the Torygraph after all.

 

[Rage Racer]

Do people even know what a no go zone is??

So called European no go zones do not even come close to the ones in Turkey, Brazil, Mexico, Syria, Libya and Somalia.

Comparing a well-developed Western European state to Syria/Libya/Somalia doesn’t sound relieving.

It’s like when have serious problems at something but someone tells you “Have you thought about poor African kids? They’re doing a lot worse!”.

 

[SestoScudo]

Comparing a well-developed Western European state to Syria/Libya/Somalia doesn’t sound relieving.

It’s like when have serious problems at something but someone tells you “Have you thought about poor African kids? They’re doing a lot worse!”.

First World Problems just like how the right wingers complain of Refugees being invaders.

Here they complain of non existent no go zones which would make a Brazilian or a Turk laugh his head off.

 

[Carbonox]

Just because other countries have it worse doesn't mean Western Europe shouldn't use their law enforcement resources to clean up the areas where immigrant gangs have turned car burning and rioting into a regular pastime.

 

[baldgye]

Just because other countries have it worse doesn't mean Western Europe shouldn't use their law enforcement resources to clean up the areas where immigrant gangs have turned car burning and rioting into a regular pastime.

But they can’t!!!

These are NO-GO areas! The rules are you can’t go, not even the police! Not even THE ARMY... not even hope!!!!!!¡

 

[baldgye]

Surprised no one posted this.

EU and really Germany to push for banning petrol and diesel car sales from 2030 onwards... seems insane to me that we are almost 10 years away from it!

 

[mustafur]

Europe has to make up for all that black stuff China and India are making.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Europe has to make up for all that black stuff China and India are making.

You guys are all going to be riding bicycles pretty soon. Don't worry, it's for the greater good.

 

[HenrySwanson]

The Telegraph article is behind a paywall. The two wikipedia articles deal with voter fraud and local government corruption. Not sure what evidence this provides that furriners aren't integrating. It's just crooked politicos unless they were somehow corrupt because they were immigrants.

As you wish....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37055521

An Express article also said that out of the 18 that were investigated a "vast majority" had sizeable Muslim populations

I also like the thoughts behind no go zones:

"Donald Trump was wrong, there's no such thing as no go zones"

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"Ok so there are no go zones but have you seen these no go zones...."

 

[baldgye]

An Express article

Theirs your problem

 

[PocketZeven]

You guys are all going to be riding bicycles pretty soon. Don't worry, it's for the greater good.

Actually there are relatively a lot of electric and hybrid cars here in the Netherlands. I also drive a hybrid myself.

I guestimate by 2030 we will have longrange batteries and fastchargers or maybe Hydrogen powered cars that outperform regular engines in efficiency anyways.

 

[baldgye]

Actually there are relatively a lot of electric and hybrid cars here in the Netherlands. I also drive a hybrid myself.

I guestimate by 2030 we will have longrange batteries and fastchargers or maybe Hydrogen powered cars that outperform regular engines in efficiency anyways.

Still seems amazing to me, that my mid-life crisis could involve buying a non-petrol stupid car

 

[PocketZeven]

Still seems amazing to me, that my mid-life crisis could involve buying a non-petrol stupid car

For a daily driver I highly recommend electric/hybrid cars actually. I am all for progress, but I also hope that motorsport will always have combustion engines.

 

[baldgye]

For a daily driver I highly recommend electric/hybrid cars actually. I am all for progress, but I also hope that motorsport will always have combustion engines.

How could it? If the EU forces, by law, that all new cars be non-petrol, what relevance would petrol motor-sports have?

 

[PocketZeven]

How could it? If the EU forces, by law, that all new cars be non-petrol, what relevance would petrol motor-sports have?

I am not sure how the law is written, but does motorsports fall into that catagory? I get that carbrands will have no incentive to keep building combution engines anymore, but there are still enough enthousiast in the world. Try watching Formula E it is fun for a while, but it just isnt the same without real engine sounds.

Perhaps its wishfull thinking. I always hoped hydrogen perhaps could replace petrol someday, but the technology is focused on the electric motor route instead of a combustion engine. Then again perhaps some genius does find a clean alternative to petrol in a few years. The oil companies are working hard not to collapse by 2030.

 

[baldgye]

I am not sure how the law is written, but does motorsports fall into that catagory? I get that carbrands will have no incentive to keep building combution engines anymore, but there are still enough enthousiast in the world. Try watching Formula E it is fun for a while, but it just isnt the same without real engine sounds.

Perhaps its wishfull thinking. I always hoped hydrogen perhaps could replace petrol someday, but the technology is focused on the electric motor route instead of a combustion engine. Then again perhaps some genius does find a clean alternative to petrol in a few years. The oil companies are working hard not to collapse by 2030.

I mean, the whole point of WEC and F1 is that, at least in theory, they push technology that then can trickle down into roadcars

 

[PocketZeven]

I mean, the whole point of WEC and F1 is that, at least in theory, they push technology that then can trickle down into roadcars

That was what I was referencing to. Can you imagine a full electric Formula 1?

 

[baldgye]

That was what I was referencing to. Can you imagine a full electric Formula 1?

Yeah, I don't see why not

 

[PocketZeven]

Yeah, I don't see why not

Ever watched Formula E?

 

[baldgye]

Ever watched Formula E?

Yeah a few times.

Though after thinking about it more, batteries are an actual issue. The batteries in the current F1 cars will stop working in something like 7-8 years(?) and the engines will be literally worthless and unusable. Can you imagine, an entire generation of F1 cars totally unable to move unless the engineer bespoke engines to move them about it for demo runs, but never being able to actually drive them on the original engines.... awful.

So yeah, I don't know what the solution is or if it will go all electric or hydrogen or what, but it can't stay petrol for ever

 

[PocketZeven]

Yeah a few times.

Though after thinking about it more, batteries are an actual issue. The batteries in the current F1 cars will stop working in something like 7-8 years(?) and the engines will be literally worthless and unusable. Can you imagine, an entire generation of F1 cars totally unable to move unless the engineer bespoke engines to move them about it for demo runs, but never being able to actually drive them on the original engines.... awful.

So yeah, I don't know what the solution is or if it will go all electric or hydrogen or what, but it can't stay petrol for ever

I have no objections to roadcars being electric powered though. I enjoy the drive.

 

[UKMikey]

As you wish....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37055521

This seems to be a reason to crack down on unscrupulous community leaders rather than to halt Muslim immigration.

 

[BobK]

How could it? If the EU forces, by law, that all new cars be non-petrol, what relevance would petrol motor-sports have?

Basically it'll have exactly the same relevance it always had outside the EU. While I'll be saddened to see what happens to LeMans, I'm sure Daytona and Sebring will carry on as usual.