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I can't wait for Russia to block itself from the rest of the Internet so that we can safely get our vaccinations.
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I can't wait for Russia to block itself from the rest of the Internet so that we can safely get our vaccinations.
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Its interesting how Russians are still viewed by a lot as communists, but actually have more similarities with far right.
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Stereotypes, people.
It's been almost 30 years, but many westerners still see us all ruled by the Lenin's party, drinking vodka in a room with Stalin's portrait on the wall, wearing an ushanka hat (even on summer) and going to "gulag" if anything above is missing.
Well, that is doubtful either...
May I know why do you think so?
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Well to begin there is conservatism, populism, Natiolism, anti-semitism, racism. While you could also make a case for being far left, but I tend to look at the general mentality of the people. While populism/nationalism used to be a characteristic of socialism/communism, modern socialism/liberalism has evolved from that. I consider modern socialism as the scandinavian model. Also there is a good reason why Russia is "backing" Trump and not a "socialist" like Bernie.
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Probably yes, but that's not unique to the far-right...
Well, although it wouldn't be right to say there's no antisemitism of racism in Russia at all, no need to forget that racism exists everywhere, in any country's society, much like antisemitism - in any place where Jews live, there are also some people who don't like them for some reason. But as for state-backed antisemitism/racism, I don't remember any racist or anti-semitic laws in the modern Russian Federation, or the government behaving that way... Perhaps you do?
Eheheh, when I said "how are we going to elect the next US president?", I was actually joking.
Honestly, I would like to believe that Russia is so powerful that it managed to collude with the president of the world's greatest superpower. In this case, the SVR, or GRU, or whoever did a great job to make me proud of my country. But I also have a critical view on Russia and especially its goverment. And until I see some really solid evidence about Trump working for RF, I will take it as just another conspiracy theory, nothing more. I would choose to not be too optimistic in my beliefs.
Also, your "reasoning" for Russia to "back" Trump because he's not a "socialist" is totally irrelevant. Bernie was out of the president race. No one would bet on a definite loser. Even if some country was involved on someone's side (hypothetically), that wouldn't depend on the candidate's political alignment (socialist or not). It's all about costs and profits. What you win from the candidate X winning and what you lose.
Now going back to antisemitism, I feel like we are becoming the Jews of 21st century. I mean, the universal scapegoats. Americans elected themselves the wrong president? It's because of Russian meddling. Another school shooting in the US? Blame Russia who 'sponsors' the NRA. Measles is spreading in Europe? Russia is responsible for anti-vaxxers. Someone has an erectile disfunction? We'll think how to blame Russians for it, too...
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Imo it's because the Military industrial Complex is pushing for a new cold war, American Congress is owned by these people and war is profit for them.
Russia isn't the country with bases around the world pushing their agenda, Russia isn't the one that is effectively trying to tell the Venezuelan people who is their real leader, Russia isn't the country escalading tensions with Iran with extra sanctions even though they didn't break any agreements.
Make no mistake the US is the aggressor in the majority of this.
Russia isn't the country with bases around the world pushing their agenda, Russia isn't the one that is effectively trying to tell the Venezuelan people who is their real leader, Russia isn't the country escalading tensions with Iran with extra sanctions even though they didn't break any agreements.
Make no mistake the US is the aggressor in the majority of this.
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Yes, and any level of death, destruction and disaster is justified as we spread the absolute universal truth of liberal democracy in righteous pursuit of social justice and doing good. Our feces has no odor and we can do no wrong as long as our intentions are good. But let a conservative or nationalist try to do this same stuff and its inexcusable. In other words, smug and sanctimonious ends justify cruel means - as long as we have the might, we have the right.
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An apparently simple comedian has been overwhelmingly elected president of Ukraine, campaigning almost entirely on TV and social media.
To me, this seems like a perfect example of the "Pied Piper" effect, wherein grassroots artists introduce and effect paradigm shifts in societies with sclerotic, constipated and corrupt political, social and academic establishment elites.
To me, this seems like a perfect example of the "Pied Piper" effect, wherein grassroots artists introduce and effect paradigm shifts in societies with sclerotic, constipated and corrupt political, social and academic establishment elites.
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They elected him after he played a guy who became president by accident on TV.
This sounds equivalent to voting in an movie star as Governor of California because he blowed up things real good on screen. Hopefully for Ukraine's sake this guy will find his feet as well as Schwarzenegger and Reagan did.
In what I'm sure is totally unrelated news, the country is suffering from a massive brain drain.
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This election was a comedy show itself, probably the best I've seen in 2019 yet.
Just look how he made Poroshenko undergo urinalysis to prove that he's not a drug addict.
The name is Vladimir Zelensky. Or Volodymyr, which is basically the Ukrainian variant of "Vladimir" (in Russian, his first name sounds exactly like Putin's). He never had any experience as a politician until 2018 (so Reagan was a much different person, he went a long way to the president chair), but imagine how Poroshenko annoyed the people so they chose an unexperienced comedian over him.
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Centrist bloc to lose majority in EU vote as Greens and euroskeptics gain, early results show
PUBLISHED 2 HOURS AGOUPDATED 15 MIN AGO
Sam Meredith @SMEREDITH19
Matt Clinch@MATTCLINCH81
KEY POINTS
Young supporters of the FDP are reacting to the first forecast after the European elections.
Carsten Koal/picture alliance via Getty Images
The EU Parliament will be much more fragmented over the next five years with the established centrist bloc failing to gain a majority at this week’s election, early results and projections show.
The initial results on Sunday evening suggested a strong showing for Liberal and Green parties, with euroskeptic groups in France and the U.K. holding the gains they saw in 2014. Italy’s anti-immigration Lega party was also expected to make large gains, according to exit polls.
It means that pro-EU parties will hold onto two-thirds of the seats at the EU Parliament, though nationalist opponents have also produced a solid result. The lack of a majority for the centrist bloc — the center-right European People’s Party (EPP) and the center-left Socialist and Democrats (S&D) which has held power in Brussels for several decades — could further complicate decision-making at the European Union.
Turnout rises
Voter turnout has typically been one of the EU election’s biggest challenges. But, early indications show that figure has hit 50.5% this year, up from 43% in the 2014 election.
This year’s vote was particularly relevant due to the surge of anti-EU and nationalist parties across the region. However, the pro-EU parties look to have largely held their ground in many countries and the euro rose slightly in early Asia trading Sunday.
Holger Schmieding, an economist at Berenberg, said there had been “no dramatic upset” in a research note as the early exit polls were released.
“Defying the doomsayers once again, Europe continues to muddle through reasonably well. Judging by exit polls and first projections, the EU election will result in a more fragmented parliament with a slightly increased presence of euroskeptic right-wing parties,” he said.
However, he added that “the deeply divided right-wingers will remain far away from wielding any significant power at the European level. They will not be able to block significant decisions.”
France
In France, Marine Le Pen’s euroskeptic National Rally topped the European election vote, according to exit polls published Sunday, narrowly beating the centrist alliance of President Emmanuel Macron.
The narrow victory for Le Pen’s party marked a symbolic victory for nationalist supporters across the bloc.
In a statement, Macron’s office described the performance as disappointing but not disastrous. It also said pro-EU parties were still in the majority.
UK
Projected results in the U.K. showed the newly-formed Brexit Party had comfortably beat the country’s two main parties, with voters expressing their frustration over deadlock in Westminster.
It comes shortly after Conservative Party leader Theresa Mayannounced her resignation as prime minister on Friday morning.
Germany
Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative alliance secured the most seats in Germany in the European Parliament election on Sunday, the early results showed, with the Greens and the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (Afd) party set to finish second and fourth respectively.
Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), and its partner the Christian Social Union, received roughly 28% of the vote share, followed by the Greens with approximately 21%.
Italy
Meanwhile in Italy, the Lega party picked up the most votes, according to exit polls, comfortably beating its coalition partner the Five Star Movement (M5S).
Early results showed Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini’s Lega party had secured around 28% of the vote, up from 17% at the national vote last year and 6% at the last EU ballot in 2014.
M5S, led by Italy’s other deputy leader Luigi Di Maio, looked on track to receive around 20% of the vote. That compared with 32% in the 2018 country-wide election and 21% in the EU vote five years ago.
The result could herald a dramatic shift in the coalition government’s dynamic, following months of wrangling over their respective manifestos and ministerial appointments.
Why it matters?
The European parliamentary election is the second-largest democratic exercise in the world, with citizens across 28 nations voting for their new representatives. Over 400 million people are eligible to take part.
The vote has major implications for the functioning of the bloc and the future of national politics in each member state. The EU Parliament has a say on policies like agriculture and trade and is made of 751 MEPs (members of the European Parliament).
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/26/eu-election-results-greens-and-euroskeptics-gain.html
PUBLISHED 2 HOURS AGOUPDATED 15 MIN AGO
Sam Meredith @SMEREDITH19
Matt Clinch@MATTCLINCH81
KEY POINTS
- The European parliamentary election is the second-largest democratic exercise in the world, with citizens across 28 nations voting for their new representatives.
- This year’s vote was particularly relevant due to the surge of anti-EU and nationalist parties across the region.
Young supporters of the FDP are reacting to the first forecast after the European elections.
Carsten Koal/picture alliance via Getty Images
The EU Parliament will be much more fragmented over the next five years with the established centrist bloc failing to gain a majority at this week’s election, early results and projections show.
The initial results on Sunday evening suggested a strong showing for Liberal and Green parties, with euroskeptic groups in France and the U.K. holding the gains they saw in 2014. Italy’s anti-immigration Lega party was also expected to make large gains, according to exit polls.
It means that pro-EU parties will hold onto two-thirds of the seats at the EU Parliament, though nationalist opponents have also produced a solid result. The lack of a majority for the centrist bloc — the center-right European People’s Party (EPP) and the center-left Socialist and Democrats (S&D) which has held power in Brussels for several decades — could further complicate decision-making at the European Union.
Turnout rises
Voter turnout has typically been one of the EU election’s biggest challenges. But, early indications show that figure has hit 50.5% this year, up from 43% in the 2014 election.
This year’s vote was particularly relevant due to the surge of anti-EU and nationalist parties across the region. However, the pro-EU parties look to have largely held their ground in many countries and the euro rose slightly in early Asia trading Sunday.
Holger Schmieding, an economist at Berenberg, said there had been “no dramatic upset” in a research note as the early exit polls were released.
“Defying the doomsayers once again, Europe continues to muddle through reasonably well. Judging by exit polls and first projections, the EU election will result in a more fragmented parliament with a slightly increased presence of euroskeptic right-wing parties,” he said.
However, he added that “the deeply divided right-wingers will remain far away from wielding any significant power at the European level. They will not be able to block significant decisions.”
France
In France, Marine Le Pen’s euroskeptic National Rally topped the European election vote, according to exit polls published Sunday, narrowly beating the centrist alliance of President Emmanuel Macron.
The narrow victory for Le Pen’s party marked a symbolic victory for nationalist supporters across the bloc.
In a statement, Macron’s office described the performance as disappointing but not disastrous. It also said pro-EU parties were still in the majority.
UK
Projected results in the U.K. showed the newly-formed Brexit Party had comfortably beat the country’s two main parties, with voters expressing their frustration over deadlock in Westminster.
It comes shortly after Conservative Party leader Theresa Mayannounced her resignation as prime minister on Friday morning.
Germany
Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative alliance secured the most seats in Germany in the European Parliament election on Sunday, the early results showed, with the Greens and the anti-immigration Alternative for Germany (Afd) party set to finish second and fourth respectively.
Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union (CDU), and its partner the Christian Social Union, received roughly 28% of the vote share, followed by the Greens with approximately 21%.
Italy
Meanwhile in Italy, the Lega party picked up the most votes, according to exit polls, comfortably beating its coalition partner the Five Star Movement (M5S).
Early results showed Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini’s Lega party had secured around 28% of the vote, up from 17% at the national vote last year and 6% at the last EU ballot in 2014.
M5S, led by Italy’s other deputy leader Luigi Di Maio, looked on track to receive around 20% of the vote. That compared with 32% in the 2018 country-wide election and 21% in the EU vote five years ago.
The result could herald a dramatic shift in the coalition government’s dynamic, following months of wrangling over their respective manifestos and ministerial appointments.
Why it matters?
The European parliamentary election is the second-largest democratic exercise in the world, with citizens across 28 nations voting for their new representatives. Over 400 million people are eligible to take part.
The vote has major implications for the functioning of the bloc and the future of national politics in each member state. The EU Parliament has a say on policies like agriculture and trade and is made of 751 MEPs (members of the European Parliament).
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/26/eu-election-results-greens-and-euroskeptics-gain.html
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Here are the results from Hungary:
Fidesz-KDNP (middle right, conservative, the current government): 52,14%
Democratic Coalition (liberal): 16,26%
Momentum (liberal): 9,92%
MSZP (Hungarian Socialist Party): 6,68%
Jobbik (some far right thingy, now liberal - don't ask how they did it): 6,44%
Other parties: ~8,15%
Fidesz-KDNP (middle right, conservative, the current government): 52,14%
Democratic Coalition (liberal): 16,26%
Momentum (liberal): 9,92%
MSZP (Hungarian Socialist Party): 6,68%
Jobbik (some far right thingy, now liberal - don't ask how they did it): 6,44%
Other parties: ~8,15%
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Are you sure you mean 'libertarian' and not 'liberal'?
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In the US liberal means left. That hasn't always been the case though, making everything that much more confusing.
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Yesterday in Ukraine.
Dmytro Tymchuk, a Ukrainian war journalist, blogger and a parliament member, is found dead at his home in Kiev.
The police said he “accidentally shot himself while cleaning his gun”.
Sounds legit. The question is, how many times did he accidentally shoot himself in the head?
Dmytro Tymchuk, a Ukrainian war journalist, blogger and a parliament member, is found dead at his home in Kiev.
The police said he “accidentally shot himself while cleaning his gun”.
Sounds legit. The question is, how many times did he accidentally shoot himself in the head?
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Probably the regulation two tap I'd have thought.Yesterday in Ukraine.
Dmytro Tymchuk, a Ukrainian war journalist, blogger and a parliament member, is found dead at his home in Kiev.
The police said he “accidentally shot himself while cleaning his gun”.
Sounds legit. The question is, how many times did he accidentally shoot himself in the head?
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Can anyone in Europe confirm this?
https://www.zdnet.com/article/europ...been-down-for-four-days-in-mysterious-outage/
https://www.zdnet.com/article/europ...been-down-for-four-days-in-mysterious-outage/
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There was an unusual 5 hour blackout in the heart of New York City, the cause of which seems to remain a complete mystery.
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