Wow, what the hell happened here???? I leave a few posts, go to bed, and come back and all hell has broken loose. Crazy.
BlazinXtreme
No I got your point, you wanted to put a performance model against a stock one.
No, you really didn't get it. I don't care if one is a performance model, or ultra-base model. When one car has a huge horsepower advantage over another, you can't expect the lesser to win. Thats all. The Porsche was at a 75hp disadvantage, but you brought up the fact that the Vette could keep up with it at the track. WELL, I hope so. Thats my point. Doesn't matter what we're talking about. It would be like comparing a base Jeep Wrangler against a Wrangler Rubicon, and then saying that the Rubicon was much better off-road. I would hope so. It has air-lockers and MTRs, it should be better. So, strike one on you getting my point.
BlazinXtreme
Well they all knocked the Aveo pretty good since it well...sucked. Also the magazines have knocked the Impala, Bonneville, Grand Prix, the G6, the Malibu, and the list ca go one and thats just and driver.
Who cares about the Aveo, why do you keep bringing this up???? Its a little, crappy car, thats it. Everyone knows that, even the people buying them. Its just a basic daily transport car, nothing more.
And, while I'm sure those other cars have all been talked about before, you still missed my point. Those aren't the "Signature" car for the company. And, as I said, you don't see the magazines bagging on the signature cars. I'm not talking about Cobalts, Civics, Sentras, G6s, Impalas, or things like that. I'm talking about the 300C, the 3-series, the Vette, the Mustang, the Accord, cars like those. Now sure, those cars aren't bad by any means. But, you'll never see the mags dis them, because you just don't talk down to those cars. Those cars are supposed to be seen as the best of the best from the respective company, and if people started to think otherwise, you have problems. Think back to the last time an American magazine talked bad about one, it will be hard. Sure, they might find little flaws and quirks, but they will NEVER proclaim one a BAD car. Again, you missed my point. Strike two.
BlazinXtreme
No I didn't miss your point, I don't think the Mini is all that great of a car nor is is fun to drive.
Again, you did miss the point. I'm not talking about the Mini exclusively here. What I was saying was, by the numbers that you seem so fond of, the Mini doesn't seem like that great of a car. But, once you live with one, you realize the numbers don't matter. We could be talking about any car, not just the Mini. My point was, if all you look at is the numbers, you don't really understand what the car has to offer. Thats strike three, but we're not done
BlazinXtreme
Well at least I'm not relying on opinion, I at least use facts not emotions and happy feelings.
No, you're relying on someone else to make your decisions for you then. I do have an opinion, everyone does. You yourself used an
OPINION to proclaim the Mini Cooper
NOT A GREAT CAR AND NOT FUN TO DRIVE. Thats an opinion, and a perfectly acceptable one. But, taking what a magazine has to say about a car as the set in stone answer about the car is just lame. Call it emotional or whatever, I'll stick to driving and enjoying cars that
I like, not what someone else tells me I should like. So you can stick to not liking the French, not liking the Mini, and thinking the Corvette is the greatest car on the planet. I'll make my own
EDUCATED decisions. Thats strike four aginst you on getting my point. Maybe I should write a magazine, and use a bunch of numbers and graphs. Then you would understand it. MAYBE.
Hilg