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F1 Returns to USA - COTA - Bring on 2013!!
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Fish, when I saw the news it had me wondering if you and anyone else in the US were bouncing off of the walls like Flubber balls.
Flubber = Absent Minded Professor reference
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There haven't even been rumours of the 2011 calendar. And come to think of it, I can't recall there ever being rumours of a) a calendar years before its release or b the date for a new race before the calender on which is appears fo the first time is released.
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Phone call interview with Tavo Hellmund on "F1 Debrief" reveals that they are simply "ready to go". Interestingly says "it'll be fast, It'll be quite a challenge, it'll have elevation". This deal seems more and more real the more I here about it.
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The New Track Layout has been Leaked!!!
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The first two were requested of Tilke. The elevation comes from Hellmund and his company deliberately purchasing hilly land.
However, I'm not sure there's a design in place. Hellmund said Tilke is in Austin acquiring office space, unless he's throwing out a smokescreen. But that would make for two in about as many days: he first of all said they were considering three different sites, only to reveal they had already purchased on. It didn't really achieve anything, and lying about the extent of Tilke's work acheives even less. The only possibly motivation I can think of would be that Hellmund is trying to control the flow of infomation, but to what end eludes me.
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Give it a rest man when they decide to show us the design they will. I'm just glad their back in the U.S and I'll be patiently waiting for the official Formula1 site to update us as the days go by.
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Fish, when I saw the news it had me wondering if you and anyone else in the US were bouncing off of the walls like Flubber balls.
Giggling like schoolgirls is more like it.
My brother-in-law and I haven't stopped smiling, really, all week.True, but more difficult to do as this track seems to be about 45mins from my house! Makes it a bit harder to 'give it a rest'.
Life will take over soon enough, but right now the exitement is passionate; patience will come later.
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I looked up the location, and it is on my drive to school next year, so I slowly get to see this place go up, sweet.
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Um, what? All we know is that it's east of the city, and within a few miles of the airport. That's pretty vague, so unless your drive to school involves travelling back and forth across a few square miles of land somewhere outside the city ... I'm not entirely sure what you mean. See, they could build a racing circuit near my local airport, but since there's more than one way to get there, I could totally drive past it on my way to class without actually seeing it.
Private investors. In which case, it's completely understandable that they haven't disclosed who is funding it. Considering the cost involved, those people have a right to privacy if they so choose. I'm pretty sure the Freedom of Information Act doesn't extend to disclosing someone's bank details.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85288
According to Tavo Hellmund, the circuit is going to be one of the most challenging on the calendar. It's going to have over a hundred feet of elevation between its highest and lowest points ... but it's going to be a Greatest Hits kind of circuit: from the sounds of things, they're going to take all of the "best bits" from the traditional circuits and string them together, which sounds like crap. You've got a canvas to create the best new circuit imaginable, a real modern classic, and what do you do? You duplicate Maggotts/Becketts/Chapel, you copy Pouhon, you plagiarise the Parabolica. It's sounding like there hadn't been a single original thought put into it.
According to Tavo Hellmund, the circuit is going to be one of the most challenging on the calendar. It's going to have over a hundred feet of elevation between its highest and lowest points ... but it's going to be a Greatest Hits kind of circuit: from the sounds of things, they're going to take all of the "best bits" from the traditional circuits and string them together, which sounds like crap. You've got a canvas to create the best new circuit imaginable, a real modern classic, and what do you do? You duplicate Maggotts/Becketts/Chapel, you copy Pouhon, you plagiarise the Parabolica. It's sounding like there hadn't been a single original thought put into it.
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Knock off them negative waves. It's going to be a beautiful, mother track. And it's going to be there.
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Hey, it could be worse. Go over to the Autosport forums (warning: it's very toxic) where they dissect each and every word about it and twist it about as proof that the race will never happen. Seriously.
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From what i can tell he only talked about liking silverstone and might pull a section from there but no place else. I think his comments were more about how his track will be more like the tradional circuits such as Waltkins Glen, Lime Rock, Spa the old course that where built with the land not cleared then a track placed on them.
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Well, I'm referring to the following part of this article:
I'm just going to be disappointed if all they've done is pillaged the best parts of other circuits. I have no doubt that the Senna S feeding into Denger Curve followed by Pouhon and Copse before the Parabolica etc. would make for a great circuit ... but it's just so unoriginal. Surely when given a blank piece of paper and told "Go nuts - we'll worry about the details later", then even Tilke would pounce on the opportunity rather than just copy and paste bits and pieces from other circuits. I wouldn't have a problem with it if Tilke was inspired by other circuits - for example, putting a high-speed sequence of bends through multiple elevation changes (kind of like crossing Maggotts/Becketts/Chapel with Satan's rollercoaster) - but if he's just directly copying them, then it's a problem.
However, it's not a direct quote. He also said in GP Week magazine that it's going to be pretty un-Tilke, and that Tilke critics aren't going to have much ammo to sling at him (my phrasing).
I'm just going to be disappointed if all they've done is pillaged the best parts of other circuits. I have no doubt that the Senna S feeding into Denger Curve followed by Pouhon and Copse before the Parabolica etc. would make for a great circuit ... but it's just so unoriginal. Surely when given a blank piece of paper and told "Go nuts - we'll worry about the details later", then even Tilke would pounce on the opportunity rather than just copy and paste bits and pieces from other circuits. I wouldn't have a problem with it if Tilke was inspired by other circuits - for example, putting a high-speed sequence of bends through multiple elevation changes (kind of like crossing Maggotts/Becketts/Chapel with Satan's rollercoaster) - but if he's just directly copying them, then it's a problem.
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Just have to wait a few weeks and see what Tilke came up with.
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I really don't care what the track will look like, the fact that a Formula One race will take place only two hours from my house is all I need!
I'm sure there will be plenty of American GTP members going. Maybe we can set up a lan party or something sometime during the race week. But perhaps I'm thinking too far into the future.
I'm sure there will be plenty of American GTP members going. Maybe we can set up a lan party or something sometime during the race week. But perhaps I'm thinking too far into the future.
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Apparently, Texas State Comptroller and Hellmund were in Silverstone last weekend. Track design is almost complete for presentation to FIA in September......
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-us-grand-prix-at-austin-on-schedule-says-tavo-hellmund/
Construction to begin in December.....
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-work-on-austin-texas-formula-one-track-to-start-in-december/
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-us-grand-prix-at-austin-on-schedule-says-tavo-hellmund/
Construction to begin in December.....
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-work-on-austin-texas-formula-one-track-to-start-in-december/
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Austin are apparently going to be releaseing details about their race today: http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=379537&FS=F1
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Tavo and Bernie chatting it up 'Official Formula 1 Website' style. Nothing much, hints at a June race date around the Montreal timeframe (as suspected) and an open invitation to New York that another US race is still available. Even a wish for Danicka Patrick to be in an F1 car for the race. (Yeah right!? She can't win in Indy or NC, what could she possibly do in an F1 sled, other than pose beside it! 
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http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2010/8/11133.html
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I guess she could be a grid girl then!Even a wish for Danicka Patrick to be in an F1 car for the race. (Yeah right!? She can't win in Indy or NC, what could she possibly do in an F1 sled, other than pose beside it!
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Even if they pillaged from other tracks there is no way you can exactly duplicate it with a total replica of the elevations. Plus with the combination of different tracks it will then be an original. Since the whole track will be like no other.
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Tavo Hellmund was on SPEED TV's "Wind Tunnel" with Dave Despain last night and some more details have emerged:
- The circuit layout has been finalised and will be presented soon (it needs FIA approval first).
- It will be 5.1km (3.6mi) in length, which is slightly less than the average, which is about 5.5km; the race will therefore probably be about 59 or 60 laps long.
- There will be twenty corners in total; some will be very fast, while others will be slower, more technical sections.
- Total elevation will be 140ft (~45 metres), which by my rough estimation means it will have the third-greatest elevation of any circuit on the calendar after Spa and Suzuka (for comparison's sake, it will be greater than Fuji, the closest circuit capable of hosting Formula 1).
- Like Interlagos before it, the main grandstand will be the highest point of the circuit.
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Look at how well originality made the Hungaroring, for example. Yas Marina, while looking like a fantasy world, hasn't got a single place to pass. And once you emasculate a circuit like the Circuit de Catalunya, there's even less chances to overtake. Although you might think there's straight plagiarism in developing a circuit with one's favorite corners, they aren't likely to be inch-perfect rip-offs of the same thing.
Of course, there's my skepticism that this thing actually gets built in this economy, although this is one case I'd prefer to be proven wrong.
