Famine's Adjusted Constructors' ChampionshipFormula 1

[Famine]

So, after four races...

1. Mercedes - 100 (25, 25, 25, 25)
2. Ferrari - 72 (18, 18, 18, 18)
3. Red Bull - 45 (15, 15, 15, 0)
4. Racing Point - 44 (12, 8, 12, 12)
5. Alfa Romeo - 38 (8, 12, 8, 10)
6. Williams - 26 (6, 6, 6, 8)
7. McLaren - 21 (0, 2, 4, 15)
8. Toro Rosso - 20 (10, 10, 0, 0)
9. Haas - 10 (0, 0, 10, 0)
10. Renault - 4 (0, 4, 0, 0)

 

[Liquid]

(25, 25, 25, 25)
(18, 18, 18, 18)

 

[Famine]

So, after five races...

1. Mercedes - 125 (25, 25, 25, 25, 25)
2. Ferrari - 90 (18, 18, 18, 18, 18)
3. Red Bull - 60 (15, 15, 15, 0, 15)
4. Racing Point - 44 (12, 8, 12, 12, 0)
5. Alfa Romeo - 44 (8, 12, 8, 10, 6)
6. Toro Rosso - 30 (10, 10, 0, 0, 10)
7. Williams - 30 (6, 6, 6, 8, 4)
8. Haas - 22 (0, 0, 10, 0, 12)
9. McLaren - 21 (0, 2, 4, 15, 0)
10. Renault - 12 (0, 4, 0, 0, 8)

 

[Jimlaad43]

Williams have one ray of hope this season in that their reliability has been fine. They're keeping out of trouble and finishing races. Now all they need is an absolutely bonkers wet crashfilled race that their drivers aren't involved in and they could scrape a point.

 

[PeterJB]

They're pace was marginally better yesterday but it must've irked them that they could only unlap themselves once during the safety car so they couldn't even attempt a challenge at the restart...

 

[Liquid]

Williams have one ray of hope this season in that their reliability has been fine. They're keeping out of trouble and finishing races. Now all they need is an absolutely bonkers wet crashfilled race that their drivers aren't involved in and they could scrape a point.

Putting it like that only confirms that they are this decade's Tyrrell-Minardi.

 

[Famine]

After *yawn eight races...

1. Mercedes - 193 (25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 18, 25)
2. Ferrari - 133 (18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 0, 25, 18)
3. Red Bull - 102 (15, 15, 15, 0, 15, 18, 12, 12)
4. Racing Point - 68 (12, 8, 12, 12, 0, 6, 10, 8)
5. Alfa Romeo - 58 (8, 12, 8, 10, 6, 2, 8, 4)
6. Toro Rosso - 51 (10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 15, 0, 6)
7. McLaren - 48 (0, 2, 4, 15, 0, 12, 0, 15)
8. Renault - 47 (0, 4, 0, 0, 8, 10, 15, 10)
9. Williams - 40 (6, 6, 6, 8, 4, 4, 4, 2)
10. Haas - 36 (0, 0, 10, 0, 12, 8, 6, 0)

 

[Carbon_6]

 

[Famine]

The investigation after the race in Austria shouldn't affect these results, so after nine races...

1. Mercedes - 211 (25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 18, 25, 18)
2. Ferrari - 158 (18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 0, 25, 18. 25)
3. Red Bull - 117 (15, 15, 15, 0, 15, 18, 12, 12, 15)
4. Racing Point - 74 (12, 8, 12, 12, 0, 6, 10, 8, 6)
5. Alfa Romeo - 68 (8, 12, 8, 10, 6, 2, 8, 4, 10)
6. McLaren - 60 (0, 2, 4, 15, 0, 12, 0, 15, 12)
7. Toro Rosso - 55 (10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 15, 0, 6, 4)
8. Renault - 55 (0, 4, 0, 0, 8, 10, 15, 10, 8)
9. Williams - 41 (6, 6, 6, 8, 4, 4, 4, 2, 1)
10. Haas - 38 (0, 0, 10, 0, 12, 8, 6, 0, 2)

The top three may be disappearing over the non-event horizon, but one of the thing FACC was designed for was to bring a more relevant metric to separate the lower-order teams, and that at least is looking interesting.

 

[Liquid]

It's quite amazing that Williams haven't failed to finish but still score so low each race. Reliability is so good these days.

 

[Jimlaad43]

What does the underline for Ferrari represent?

 

[Famine]

What does the underline for Ferrari represent?

Pretty much nothing except that I don't expect anyone to catch the top two, so they're fighting a private battle (although to be fair I don't really expect Ferrari to catch Mercedes either). I should probably add one underneath Red Bull for consistency, because there's no way it'll be anything higher or lower than third

 

[Famine]

After German Grand Prix

1. Mercedes - 236 (25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 18, 25, 18, 25, 0)
2. Ferrari - 164 (18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 0, 25, 18. 25, 6, 0)
3. Red Bull - 145 (15, 15, 15, 0, 15, 18, 12, 12, 15, 18, 10)
4. Toro Rosso - 90 (10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 15, 0, 6, 4, 10, 25)
5. Alfa Romeo - 80 (8, 12, 8, 10, 6, 2, 8, 4, 10, 0, 12)
6. Racing Point - 78 (12, 8, 12, 12, 0, 6, 10, 8, 6, 4, 0)
7. McLaren - 72 (0, 2, 4, 15, 0, 12, 0, 15, 12, 12, 0)
8. Renault - 70 (0, 4, 0, 0, 8, 10, 15, 10, 8, 15, 0)
9. Williams - 64 (6, 6, 6, 8, 4, 4, 4, 2, 1, 8, 15)
10. Haas - 56 (0, 0, 10, 0, 12, 8, 6, 0, 2, 0, 18)

Edited for post-race penalty

 

[Roger the Horse]

Apparently the Alfa's were disqualified or something?

 

[Famine]

Apparently the Alfa's were disqualified or something?

Not disqualified - see the relevant race thread - but I will need to adjust the FACC scores due to post-race penalties.

Edit: Doesn't actually affect the table at all.

 

[Liquid]

Williams have one ray of hope this season in that their reliability has been fine. They're keeping out of trouble and finishing races. Now all they need is an absolutely bonkers wet crashfilled race that their drivers aren't involved in and they could scrape a point.

Your cheque was cashed today.

However, in terms of FACC, this still applies:

It's quite amazing that Williams haven't failed to finish but still score so low each race. Reliability is so good these days.

 

[Famine]

And at the summer break:

1. Mercedes - 251 (25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 18, 25, 18, 25, 0, 15)
2. Ferrari - 189 (18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 0, 25, 18. 25, 6, 0, 25)
3. Red Bull - 163 (15, 15, 15, 0, 15, 18, 12, 12, 15, 18, 10, 18)
4. Toro Rosso - 98 (10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 15, 0, 6, 4, 10, 25, 8)
5. McLaren - 84 (0, 2, 4, 15, 0, 12, 0, 15, 12, 12, 0, 12)
6. Racing Point - 84 (12, 8, 12, 12, 0, 6, 10, 8, 6, 4, 0, 6)
7. Alfa Romeo - 84 (8, 12, 8, 10, 6, 2, 8, 4, 10, 0, 12, 4)
8. Renault - 80 (0, 4, 0, 0, 8, 10, 15, 10, 8, 15, 0, 10)
9. Williams - 66 (6, 6, 6, 8, 4, 4, 4, 2, 1, 8, 15, 2)
10. Haas - 56 (0, 0, 10, 0, 12, 8, 6, 0, 2, 0, 18, 0)

Madly, McLaren, Racing Point and Alfa Romeo are all tied up on 84pt. Even more madly, the last result means that McLaren jumps from 7th to 5th, Alfa Romeo drops from 5th to 7th, and Racing Point stays where it is, with the three separated on countback (McLaren 3rd x2; Racing Point 4th x3; Alfa Romeo 4th x2).

 

[Famine]

Some races later:

1. Mercedes - 369 (25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 18, 25, 18, 25, 0, 15, 25, 25, 18, 25, 25)
2. Ferrari - 260 (18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 0, 25, 18. 25, 6, 0, 25, 18, 10, 25, 0, 18)
3. Red Bull - 211 (15, 15, 15, 0, 15, 18, 12, 12, 15, 18, 10, 18, 0, 15, 15, 18, 0)
4. Toro Rosso - 143 (10, 10, 0, 0, 10, 15, 0, 6, 4, 10, 25, 8, 15, 0, 8, 10, 12)
5. Racing Point - 135 (12, 8, 12, 12, 0, 6, 10, 8, 6, 4, 0, 6, 12, 12, 0, 12, 15)
6. McLaren - 121 (0, 2, 4, 15, 0, 12, 0, 15, 12, 12, 0, 12, 0, 0, 12, 15, 10)
7. Renault - 116 (0, 4, 0, 0, 8, 10, 15, 10, 8, 15, 0, 10, 8, 18, 10, 0, 0 [DSQ])
8. Alfa Romeo - 112 (8, 12, 8, 10, 6, 2, 8, 4, 10, 0, 12, 4, 4, 8, 0, 8, 8)
9. Williams - 82 (6, 6, 6, 8, 4, 4, 4, 2, 1, 8, 15, 2, 6, 6, 0, 0, 4)
10. Haas - 78 (0, 0, 10, 0, 12, 8, 6, 0, 2, 0, 18, 0, 10, 0, 6, 0, 6)

That means that, just like the real world, Mercedes has taken the title at Japan. In FACC it's with a 109pt advantage with only 100pt left available; the real-world advantage is 179pt with 176pt left.

A recent consistent run has put Racing Point up to 5th, by 1pt over Renault, while McLaren's two no-scores after the break has undone the good work before it. The team seems to have recovered more recently though, so the last four races should shake things up. With only 31 points from Toro Rosso in 4th to Alfa Romeo in 8th, it could go any way - in the previous four races, Toro Rosso scored 28, Racing Point 36, Renault 43, McLaren 35, and Alfa 22. If that form continues, Renault will take 4th from Racing Point, then McLaren, STR and Alfa.

Haas continues, by virtue of failing to get both cars home 8 times from 19 races, prop up the table, just four points behind perennial slowpokes Williams. Williams only has two non-finishes, both from the last three races.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Chain Bear just proposed something similar (9 years late!), albeit this time the first driver of each team is the one scoring. Watch from 5:45 onwards.

 

[Famine]

I promise I was logging it in 2020, 2021, and 2022 as well, but as I'm using it for the GTP FF1 this year I figured I should post the current standings first:

Post Australian GP Shenans
1. Red Bull - 68pt
2. Aston Martin - 43pt
3. Mercedes - 33pt
4. AlphaTauri - 26pt
5. Haas - 24pt
6. Alpine - 22pt
7. Alfa Romeo - 22pt
8. McLaren - 21pt
9. Ferrari - 15pt
10. Williams - 12pt

Just look at that five-point spread from fourth to eighth... It's 20pt in the real thing, with Ferrari top of it instead of not even at the bottom of it!

Early days, of course, but the fight for second looks like it could be fun this year.

 

[Liquid]

I always appreciate ACC posts because it fixes a very big problem in Formula One in an instant.

 

[Famine]

After five races...

1. Red Bull - 118pt
2. Aston Martin - 68pt
3. Mercedes - 63pt
4. Ferrari - 48pt
5. Alpine - 42pt
6. Haas - 36pt
7. McLaren - 33pt
8. AlphaTauri - 30pt
9. Alfa Romeo - 28pt
10. Williams - 19pt

Red Bull two maximums ahead (almost three in the real world), Aston and Mercedes going for second by the looks - but Ferrari the biggest mover with the most points besides Red Bull (33) and the most positions gained (+5). Consistency for McLaren is moving them up a bit, with Alfa/Alpha hurt by retirements - although everyone finishing in Miami made for very small gains. Except for Williams who suck.

 

[Famine]

After giving up on last year (no idea how it finished, but Red Bull would have obviously won real early) and not really keep track of this year because of life (and the first seven rounds being boring as all ****), I've updated FACC for this season and...

Ferrari passed Red Bull for the lead at R8 (Monaco), with McLaren following at R9 (Canada). McLaren took the lead at R14 (Belgium) and then stretched it out a bit, but Ferrari has recently brought it back to 30pt.

The split between top four and bottom six was obvious from R6 onward, and in real life Red Bull didn't lose the lead until R17 (Azerbaijan). FACC predicted it by three months...

Up until very recently there were only two drivers with 0pt - having never finished behind a team-mate when both cars finished. They're Verstappen and Albon, who lost his perfect record with Colapinto replacing Sargeant. The most unbalanced team aside from those is Ferrari, with Sainz scoring 74% of their points, while Alpine is the most balanced at 53:47 with Ocon scoring most (which actually flipped after Mexico; it had been Gasly, 50.8:49.2).

 

[Jimlaad43]

To be honest it's quite hilarious that you gave up on the season when you did, Round 9 onwards has been incredible and you have missed a pretty spectacular season.

 

[Famine]

To be honest it's quite hilarious that you gave up on the season when you did, Round 9 onwards has been incredible and you have missed a pretty spectacular season.

To be fair I haven't engaged with it at all. I only caught summaries of the first couple and results of the next few, and since my wife's op in January I just couldn't be arsed.

 

[Liquid]

An always welcome return.

 

[Har1MAS1415]

Interesting idea for a thread

 

[Famine]

As I logged it for FF1 last year, may as well post 2023:

Red Bull	430
Mercedes	271
Ferrari	248
McLaren	247
Aston Martin	215
Alpine	186
AlphaTauri	144
Alfa Romeo	133
Haas	111
Williams	110

Just checking into the points, RBR passed the eventual, whole-season total of Mercedes at Round 12 (Belgium), but only mathematically secured the title at Round 18 (USA) - two races later than reality. It also looks like McLaren had a bit of a late surge and an epic final six-round tussle for the podium with Ferrari, compared to being 100pt distant in reality, and Aston's descent in form is clearly evident. Fascinating that it sort of predicted this season a bit.

 

[Famine]

After giving up on last year (no idea how it finished, but Red Bull would have obviously won real early) and not really keep track of this year because of life (and the first seven rounds being boring as all ****), I've updated FACC for this season and...

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Ferrari passed Red Bull for the lead at R8 (Monaco), with McLaren following at R9 (Canada). McLaren took the lead at R14 (Belgium) and then stretched it out a bit, but Ferrari has recently brought it back to 30pt.

The split between top four and bottom six was obvious from R6 onward, and in real life Red Bull didn't lose the lead until R17 (Azerbaijan). FACC predicted it by three months...

Up until very recently there were only two drivers with 0pt - having never finished behind a team-mate when both cars finished. They're Verstappen and Albon, who lost his perfect record with Colapinto replacing Sargeant. The most unbalanced team aside from those is Ferrari, with Sainz scoring 74% of their points, while Alpine is the most balanced at 53:47 with Ocon scoring most (which actually flipped after Mexico; it had been Gasly, 50.8:49.2).

Brazil was amusing chaos - Mercedes and Red Bull now three points apart, Alpine and Aston just one point apart...

It looks like real-world McLaren and Ferrari are separated by 36pt, and in FACC by 48pt. In most cases, McLaren outscoring Ferrari at Vegas will give them the FACC title but there won't be a result in the real world that can do the same - so we may have the very rare case of an earlier FACC title..!

Fun additional note, every team in the top four has already passed the tally of the second-placed team in 2023 - including Mercedes, which was the second-placed team last year and is only fourth this year right now...

McLaren	385
Ferrari	337
Red Bull	279
Mercedes	276
Aston Martin	158
Alpine	157
Haas	151
VCARB	129
Sauber	93
Williams	89