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Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out
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Which makes, you know, kinda sense. They have several million customers, if 0.05% of those use Fanatec wheels, I'd be surprised.
Supporting a certain wheel brand is smart economics for hardcore, PC only simulations, iRacing, rfactor 2 and prolly a few more which I probably missed.
For titles like GT it must be incredibly low on their agenda. On top of that, my guess - and I might be terribly wrong - is that having Sony in an interface/gatekeeper position isn't making things necessarily easier when Fanatec talks with Polyphony Digital.
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PD would miss a great opportunity if they would not make GT5 support CSW. I mean they do academy thing, Kaz races in the ring etc. Game supporting the best wheel would fit nicely to the image they want to give. Fanatec is also the company that innovates most aggressively from the three and GT5 supporting would also be step to right direction. GT5 has to stay true to HC players. If they try to go Forza route, they will loose every race with t10. Just a note that I am drunk when writing this 
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PD would miss a great opportunity if they would not make GT5 support CSW. I mean they do academy thing, Kaz races in the ring etc. Game supporting the best wheel would fit nicely to the image they want to give. Fanatec is also the company that innovates most aggressively from the three and GT5 supporting would also be step to right direction. GT5 has to true to HC players. If they try to go Forza route, they will loose every race with t10. Just a note that I am drunk when writing this
Exactly! You couldn't of said it better if you were sober lol.
Now its time for the "Officially support and take advantage of the CSW" petition 👍
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With the CSW maybe Thomas could make an officially licensed Nissan GT Academy Rim? Take the wheel from Lucas's LMP2 ride or Jan's GTR. I wonder if it would be possible to only license the rim even though TM and Logitech have a license for the full wheel.
I PD may say they look at forums to see what is going on with GT... but based on recent patches to the game (standard car interiors, enduro saves, etc) twitter seems to be the best way to get PD's attention. I first proposed standard car interiors to him when he was fielding questions about the Honda CRZ on Honda's twitter (before he even had the one he has now). Enduro saves where also mentioned first on twitter.
I PD may say they look at forums to see what is going on with GT... but based on recent patches to the game (standard car interiors, enduro saves, etc) twitter seems to be the best way to get PD's attention. I first proposed standard car interiors to him when he was fielding questions about the Honda CRZ on Honda's twitter (before he even had the one he has now). Enduro saves where also mentioned first on twitter.
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Like I said, unless their contract states, "You may not license to another brand/company while our contract is active." or "You may not license to PD/GT while our contract is active."... then yes they can.
More to your point, I doubt T10 missed that though. "Sure, you can license a higher end rim to our primary competitor while you are licensed to us."
They could still go the G25 route (no GT logos) and at least officially support the wheel.
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I only tweeted @Kaz_Yamauchi if he is considering official support for the Fanatec CSW and that many hardcore GT5 players would appreciate that big time!
Didn't direct him to the petition-thread, so no harm there if the topic would be completely removed due to forum policies.
Didn't direct him to the petition-thread, so no harm there if the topic would be completely removed due to forum policies.
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Does anyone know of another wheel used on PS3 that is recognized as Logitech product or emulates one in order to function? I wonder if there if there could be more than we the general public are aware of regarding this situation. Perhaps amar212 could weigh in on this? I wonder what Logitech thinks of Fanatec's wheels appearing as their product on the PS3.
Seems like a "gray" area to me. I just hope this is not a case of better to leave a sleeping dog lie...I would really hate to see a PS3 or GT5 update render my Fanatec gear useless. Fact is product preferences aside, Fanatec is microscopic in size compared to the resources available to Logitech and Thrustmaster, should things ever take a turn for the worst...
As a pre-emptive, I am not accusing or trying to stir things up, as owner of multiple Fanatec products, would like more clarification on the matter.
EDIT (ADDITION): I see the attention focused on the CSW being recognized on PS3, and the proposed petition, does not the same case apply to the CSRE, and the rest of the Fanatec wheel line regarding the PS3? If so, shouldn't such a petition be directed at the recognition of all Fanatec wheels on the PS3?
Seems like a "gray" area to me. I just hope this is not a case of better to leave a sleeping dog lie...I would really hate to see a PS3 or GT5 update render my Fanatec gear useless. Fact is product preferences aside, Fanatec is microscopic in size compared to the resources available to Logitech and Thrustmaster, should things ever take a turn for the worst...
As a pre-emptive, I am not accusing or trying to stir things up, as owner of multiple Fanatec products, would like more clarification on the matter.
EDIT (ADDITION): I see the attention focused on the CSW being recognized on PS3, and the proposed petition, does not the same case apply to the CSRE, and the rest of the Fanatec wheel line regarding the PS3? If so, shouldn't such a petition be directed at the recognition of all Fanatec wheels on the PS3?
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Licensing issues aside, still does not answer the question why my Fanatec wheels appear as Logitech wheel in GT5, or if any other wheels on the market exhibit same behavior when connected to PS3 (Emulate/recognized) as Logitech wheel. That is what seems "gray" to me and of concern.
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I totally understand the community's concern with recognition of CSW by GT5, what is happening here is that folks are no longer ponying up around $250 for a Fanatec wheel. Those who can afford it have to shell out at least $500 and change for CSRE and even more for CSW to get a front row seat. So the recognition factor by PS3/GT5 is of heightened concern.
Fanatec is trying to enter new markets with products that start at more than double the cost of previous offerings.
Given the investment involved now, I think clarification for buyers intending to use them on PS3s is prudent pre-purchase.
If purchased for use solely on PC this is not even an issue.
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Screw PS3, everyone is worried about Xbox 720 an PS4! Me I'm switching to PC
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The Frex Simwheel Type-G does that as well. It goes further by using the G25/G27 electronic (hence the Type G designation). One of the reason is because he (ShigeT, the owner/designer) wants GT5 compatibility and wasn't able to get it outside of using Logitech emulation.
I don't understand what the fear is considering the CSR-E is already doing the same thing.
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JogoAsobi
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Thank you for the information! That is why I asked the question, so now I know Fanatec wheels are not the only ones on PS3 that do this.
So if I understand correctly, the question is whether or not future features like the CSW's data port-related ones will even work on PS3?
If so, in my case (primarily PS3 user) the CSR E would be way more attractive without the Forza branding, with a solid (non-sandwich construction) wheel of similar type used now. Would it be possible for Fanatec to do a GT2 style illuminated button treatment to a non-forza branded CSR E? Or are they constrained by licensing issues regarding the CSR E product and Turn 10?
...or how about a CSW "dumb" version for PS3 without data port stuff, and solid wheel rim, but I guess that could potentially cannibalize CSR E console sales.
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It uses the main G27 control board, that's it. That picture is exaggerated to help people be more proud of their G27's I guess.
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Well a "solid" wheel rim as I mentioned before would be a step up from the present sandwich construction of the CSRE rim, quick release would be nice (don't believe I touched on that) but CSRE electronics probably will not support "hot swapping", and a PC/PS3-centric version would not need the wireless circuitry the XBox requires.
So maybe they could market it as the entry-level high end wheel for PC users that also works for PS3, similar to the positioning of the GT3 in the class of wheels that uses the Porsche wheel housing.
So in that sense what I had in mind is a bit different than the CSRE in its present form.
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Still waiting for my Elite, and I think I also need some Clubsport pedals because my wife give me a present yesterday, so I need to practice a little bit before trying a Cruden
http://youtu.be/T2kpwHUjwS4
I did not recognised the circuit.
http://youtu.be/T2kpwHUjwS4
I did not recognised the circuit.
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Zandvoort in Holland, you see the Arie Luyendijk corner where Jann Mardenborough rolled over his Nissan during his training for the Dubai 24h, leading onto start/finisch straight and the Tarzan corner.
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