Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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I really don't have the money for the GT2, so I was wondering if it was possible to plug the CSP into a Madcatz wheel? I am pretty sure that they use the same connectors, so was wondering if it would be possible? I know that its impossible to connect it directly to the Xbox. BTW, the GT3 RS is in stock right?
 
paskowitz
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CSW>CSRE>CSR>GT2>GT3RSV2 if I am not mistaken.
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Thanks for clarifying, and it makes sense.

With the end-of-life of the Carrera, this mean the GT3RS is now their entry wheel, if you can call something viewed as better than the G27 as an entry solution.
 
Fanatec...
We managed to convince Microsoft that the handbrake is now a standard feature implemented into the console so it is easy to support and we will send samples to all relevant publishers. On PS3 it will not be supported for now.
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That's interesting Thomas and quite an achievement to get them onboard. It is great to see hardware/software being combined to enchance console gaming.

I'm as excited about the CSHB as the upcoming H shifter having become so used with paddle shifting.
 
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Fanatec...
We managed to convince Microsoft that the handbrake is now a standard feature implemented into the console so it is easy to support and we will send samples to all relevant publishers. On PS3 it will not be supported for now.
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I guess its opposite day. However, "I take for now", as "we are still working on it".
 
paskowitz
I guess its opposite day. However, "I take for now", as "we are still working on it".
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While content of agreement cannot of course be disclosed. I assume it is not inconceivable Microsoft would of liked some kind of exclusivity with this product.
 
Mr Latte
While content of agreement cannot of course be disclosed. I assume it is not inconceivable Microsoft would of liked some kind of exclusivity with this product.
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Nah, that is way too niche for them. All they want is game sales and if you are buying this wheel and have an 360, you will be buying Forza 4. They do not need the CSH or CSS to sway you.
 
Perhaps, but I dont look at just in helping them achieve more games sales. More as companies exploiting advantages against one another.
If indeed they were able to utilise the CSHB product well for X360 and in FM4 but also get some sort of exclusivity is shrewd marketing.
It is great regards Fanatec having an additional product to profit from and Microsoft having something FM4 can utilise and the PS3 platform possibly can't.

I was assuming such based on Microsoft X360 and their Forza Franchise having something that can be seen as a technical addition and can be marketed with the already impressive technical features of FM4. Kinect and Fanatec's new wheel already look to set a high benchmark. Dan has already used the term "Redfine the genre" and well I guess having a "Handbrake" is just another element of achieving that.
 
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Yeah, but handbrakes are only used in two styles of driving... drift and rally. FM4 lacks the latter. Its just too thin a theory.
 
paskowitz
Yeah, but handbrakes are only used in two styles of driving... drift and rally. FM4 lacks the latter. Its just too thin a theory.
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What Theory?
It has been confirmed that FM4 will use the handbrake and also confirmed on consoles it will be exclusive to X360 platform for an undisclosed amount of time.

FM4 will have "Autocross" as well as "Drifting" modes of play.
I somehow doubt they will have a "Handbrake" developed for the game which is unlikely to be used. Why do you continue to downplay it's role or possible importance to improving FM4s immersion?

Their may be challenges or tracks/modes of play that a "Handbrake" is needed/recommended and I'd certainly prefer to have a real handbrake to use than hit a button on a wheel for that. More interaction can only be a good thing?
 
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Thanks for all of the information and hard work Fanatec. I am kicking my self for just now finding this thread. :(

Will the Club Sport clamp work with the CSR Elite and the Club Sport wheels? Some people have glass desks and tables that they use to support their wheel's. It would be awesome if those wheels can be used with the clamp. I assume that the standard CSR wheel can use the clamp because it is in basically the same base as the Porsche wheels.
 
Theory as in MS paid for exclusive rights to the CSHB. I just think that is a bit of a stretch. Its really rather inconsequential. As long as it works in DiRT3 and RBR I am set.

Interesting tid bit, I was talking to Logitech the other day about replacing my G25 and they said that they only offer G27s and that they are out of stock and that production of that wheel is decreasing, which is why it may be a while until I can get one from their inventory. Could be because of lower demand, but then why are they out of stock? I think they may be up to something.
 
@Dopplegagger
The CSW and CSR E will have an adapter to make them compatible to the screw inserts of the PWs so all cockpits (and the table clamp) which are compatible to a PW will be compatible to the new wheels.
 
paskowitz
Theory as in MS paid for exclusive rights to the CSHB. I just think that is a bit of a stretch. Its really rather inconsequential. As long as it works in DiRT3 and RBR I am set.
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Ahhh, that must be your own theory then as I never stated anything about money or Microsoft paid for exclusivity. It also on may part wasnt meant to be a theory as such tries to determine how/why what was involved. It is a mere off the cuff assumption based on the current facts we have.

Those facts are:
  • FM4 is the only game so far linked/shown to use the Handbrake.
  • It is designed to only work with Fanatec wheels/pedals as it connects via the pedals
  • As announced in this very thread recently it will only be available to the X360 platform for the time being.
  • FM4 has been announced by "Dan Greenawalt" during an interview at E3 to offer "Autocross" and "Drifting" races which should make good usage of the "CSHB"
Do you fail to see the oppertunity Microsoft or indeed T10 would gain in wanting/having such. T10 started it all off with Fanatec and the PWTS offering a high end wheel and Clutch/H-Shift support. Fanatec have had the "CSHB" in mind since the "PWTS" but only now has it appeared out of the blue for "FM4".

It all is possibly part of the "System Wars" games between Sony/Microsoft with their leading franchises. Polphony Digital followed T10/Fanatec with the "Thrustmaster T500RS" promoting increased precision/power and upto 1080 rotation. Now with FM4 we are back again with T10 and Fanatecs new offerings all of which use the hardware collaborations to promote thier game titles/platforms and exceeding what past games have offered.

That is just how I see it...
It may not be accurate
 
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I think the new CSR pedals will be a very good addition in Fanatec's product portfolio.

They way I see it, there curently are no logical pedals to the GT2/GT3RS wheels. The current CSP are too good/expensive and the standard are not good enough/cheap.

With the CSR and CSR Elite pedals being positioned between the CSP (200 euro) and the standard (50 Euro), it will be very interesting to see where they land in terms of features/price.

Looking at it from Fanatic's view, today they have to offer steep CSP discounts when kitted with the GT3RS to have a solution sub 400 Euro. When they get the CSR pedals it will be less needed to do so and they will be able to increase their profitability.

The current GT3RS+CSP offer at 330 Euro might never come back again, but you probably get a GT3RS+CSR standard pedals for under 300 Euro, similar to a G27.
 
Guys I'm a bit behind on this thread so excuse me if it has been covered already, but what's the word on the F1/LMP style Fanatec wheel seen here?:

FanatecF1_Wheel.jpg
 
My search came up dry....does Thomas, or anyone know if the new CSR/CSRE wheels will have an adapter to use my existing G25 pedals? IIRC the GT2 does have such an adapter now, yes?

Jerome
 
/\ Thanks :) Thought so, any word on the new CSR line of wheels?

Jerome
 
The general consensus is that more will be revealed at gamescon in Germany.

Only a rumour mind.
 
Jump_Ace
/\ Thanks :) Thought so, any word on the new CSR line of wheels?

Jerome
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Im gonna say yes your gr pedals will work.
Im saying this because thomas has already stated that the new wheels will be fully backwards compatible. So. The new line will be using the same ps2 ports as the already existing line.
 
That's why I couldn't find squat on the interwebs. I thought they made that announcement at E3, my bad. Thanks guys.

Jerome
 
So with Gamescom only 2 weeks away what are peoples predictions?

I have another gut feeling.
The F1 wheel, will it be at the Codemasters booth for PCs? F1 2011 will be finished and ready for shipping by Gamescom.

We know of Fanatecs new CSR/CSR Elite wheels but I get a feeling something has been left back.
More surprises are coming...

Fanatec
Clubsport Shifter yet to be shown in actual form.
Clubsport Wheel (not the F1 wheel)

Few it seems have latched onto the hints ISR put out about another possible X360 wheel which wasn't shown at E3 and Jessica's comments about if the F1 wheel and the "Clubsport" wheel are in fact the same thing. Some have assumed the F1 wheel is the CSW but was that ever confirmed?

I will leave you with those thoughts...
 
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Thomas have said that we see something new at Gamescom. As we have heard so far that there will be CSR (+ pedals), CSR Elite (+ pedals), CSW (F1 rim + some other kind of rim probably, but who knows about those two as Mr Latte noted), CSS and CSHB. I wonder what else could there be. At least we get to know it in two weeks. Hope "Mr T" :lol: is also at Gamescom (probably not).
 
Mr. T has to stay in hiding. I don't think he will be at Gamescon so close to Thomas! :sly:

I think Thomas may release a Budget Xbox Wheel similar to the Carrera. They have the CSR Line to be the high end full compatibility wheel similar to the GT2. Then the CSW will be the high end PS3 and PC wheel, similar to the GT3 RS. Then we have an open spot for the Budget Xbox wheel, which will be similar to the Carrera wheel. Maybe they're not done with the Porsche Wheel Line? Porsche Carrera GT?
 
Looks like a small sneak peek at whats to come on the new ISR video that can be seen on Thomas's blog www.911wheel.de/

possibly a full size wheel may be in the line up if the rather under lit video and cryptic comments are anything to go by.
 

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