Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Nick Moxley
Also For the mounting, Do something for me Maya, Take off your Shock and Look at the Cap, there will be a Wear spot on the cap which pending how old can actually have a rather deep "gash" cut into the cap from the Pedal mount. This is THE ONLY thing that needs addressing when installing the Mugen shock. Oh well and aside from a Safety pin. :)



http://www.ebay.ca/itm/MBX7-ECO-REA..._Parts_Accessories&hash=item56666b95c0&_uhb=1
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Thanks for posting that link. Ive been looking to upgrade the brake shock on my CSP v2's for a while but haven't got around to doing so. Only thing though is I'm not quite following what you mean by mounting the shock. What all modifications need to be done to get the mugen shock in the link to work on the csp v2's? Also what spring and oil are you guys using? Unfortunately there's no longer a local hobby shop around here so I'll be ordering everything online.

Regarding the new hub and rims did anybody else notice or know why on the fanatec website if you look at the Gt rim and hub together its $418 but you can buy the hub and rim separate and its $350 like the other ones? I was wondering why that was. Its good to see the new rims on the web store, but as of right now Im only interested in the oval rim and new hub and its going to be August 18th before its in stock.
 
MadRR
Regarding the new hub and rims did anybody else notice or know why on the fanatec website if you look at the Gt rim and hub together its $418 but you can buy the hub and rim separate and its $350 like the other ones? I was wondering why that was.
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Where do you see such price? Maybe they have fixed it, because I see that all those new packages cost the same.
 
It also appears the hub lost the ability to save different wheel settings. Not a huge loss, but it is a nice feature. The 918 rim still list it as a feature.
 
Prices for the 918 RSR wheel:

$399.95 US
399.95€
¥49,900
$499.95 AU

Very expensive, but if you are somebody that really wants it, you'll probably buy.

It's much lighter than the BMW GT2 rim (2.96 kg vs. 3.50 kg), because of the materials used, which also drives up the price.

Would I buy it? I would for around $300, but I would still want it for less.
 
LogiForce
Wrong, it does have the vibration motors. ;)

Link: http://eu.fanatec.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=75&product_id=730
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Damn, overlook that one.
Azure Flare
Prices for the 918 RSR wheel:

It's much lighter than the BMW GT2 rim (2.96 kg vs. 3.50 kg), because of the materials used, which also drives up the price.

Would I buy it? I would for around $300, but I would still want it for less.
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Yet again, you are quoting package shipping weights or whatever those are. Real weights are 1.624 vs 2.119 kg.

Price is actually pretty reasonable, depending compared to what. On one page selling steering wheels, rim itself for Porsche gt cup car was over 300€. Fanatec one includes paddle shifters, buttons, quick release etc.
 
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By the way, did you guys notice something?
Fanatec now has things directly available and there is no more need for pre-order hassle. We can just go order stuff right away when they become available in the warehouses for the first time.
Much much better! I really prefer it. No more pre-order woes, finally.

Keep it up, Fanatec! :)
 
LogiForce
By the way, did you guys notice something?
Fanatec now has things directly available and there is no more need for pre-order hassle. We can just go order stuff right away when they become available in the warehouses for the first time.
Much much better! I really prefer it. No more pre-order woes, finally.

Keep it up, Fanatec! :)
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Not quite. You can pre order CSS SQ, classic rim and other products. Those are expected to be in stock in september.
 
bumer
Not quite. You can pre order CSS SQ, classic rim and other products. Those are expected to be in stock in september.
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Ah, true. I stand corrected on those. I guess its only the hub, handbrake, fixed paddles and Carbon Formula and Porsche rims. My bad, I should have double checked before making that statement.
Though I prefer the direct availability type of release. :)
 
LogiForce
Ah, true. I stand corrected on those. I guess its only the hub, handbrake, fixed paddles and Carbon Formula and Porsche rims. My bad, I should have double checked before making that statement.
Though I prefer the direct availability type of release. :)
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Well, fixed paddles aren't yet in stock either.

It seems yes that they try not to announce products too early ahead this time.
I'm actually quite amazed why things take so long. I mean in university, most of us make their Bachelor's or Master's thesis in about 4-6 months. CSW came to market two years ago. Picture of those static paddles was even back then included in their QuickGuide. It uses the same type of mechanism and switches that are used in BMW and other CSW rims. So those have been tested a lot and it really is very simple product. Why on earth two years later you still don't have them (expected in stock in september).
 
bumer
Well, fixed paddles aren't yet in stock either.

It seems yes that they try not to announce products too early ahead this time.
I'm actually quite amazed why things take so long. I mean in university, most of us make their Bachelor's or Master's thesis in about 4-6 months. CSW came to market two years ago. Picture of those static paddles was even back then included in their QuickGuide. It uses the same type of mechanism and switches that are used in BMW and other CSW rims. So those have been tested a lot and it really is very simple product. Why on earth two years later you still don't have them (expected in stock in september).
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I thought it showed they were available. Oh well.
Dunno why it takes so long for them to be in stock either. I can only guess it has to do with production of the mechnisms and them being included/used for other products first. Especially since most people prefer rotating pedals, so it's a small target group (i.e. A small market).

What I would love to see instead of fixed pedals is actually some multi-switches as you have in any normal road car to turn on indicators, wipers, headlights, etc.

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These things...
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LogiForce I couldn't agree more. How much more fun and real would it be teaching your 9 yo how to drive manual with cluch and gearbox when he/she is able to control headlights and signals like in a real car. That would be awesome for things like city driving or even the day to night and storm cycles coming in project cars and driveclub (still assuming ps4 compatibility will work out). I'm hopeful
 
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LogiForce I couldn't agree more. How much more fun and real would it be teaching your 9 yo how to drive manual with cluch and gearbox when he/she is able to control headlights and signals like in a real car. That would be awesome for things like city driving or even the day to night and storm cycles coming in project cars and driveclub (still assuming ps4 compatibility will work out). I'm hopeful
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Not only that, but during endurance races or even simulated virtual track days it would be natural much more natural to just use he multiswitch to signal that you will hold right.
Or flash your headlights by just pulling on the lever a few times. ;)

Plus just think about a game like ETS2. Which is more of a driving game than racing game.
 
LogiForce... Does the csw inputs accept other gearboxs? I.e. the Th8? If no, Is it a hardware issue, Does the th8 have a different connector/plug on the end vs the vs shifter? Or is it lack of software communication that stops non fanatec devices devices from talking directly to the csw. I know anything can be used stand alone with PC.... But I like the th8 shifter lots if the csw would see it without a pc i would buy 1. Has anyone used both cs shifter and th8 and have opinions?
 
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Logo force... Does the csw inputs accept other gearboxs? I.e. the Th8? Is it a hardware issue, Does the th8 have a different connector/plug on the end vs the vs shifter? Or is it lack of software communication that stops non fanatec devices devices from talking directly to the csw. I know anything can be used stand alone with PC.... But I like the th8 shifter lots if the csw would see it without a pc i would buy 1. Has anyone used both vs shifter and th8 and have opinions?
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Of course other brands won't directly interact with the CSW. Just like the CSP pedals can't be hooked up to the T500.

Thanks to our amazing community member, Mister Basher aka Jon, it is possible. Just order one of these devices of his to hook up the TH8 to the CSW directly. And yes the TH8 is USB while the CSW has RJ12 connectors.

Link: http://basherboards.com/SFA1
 
CS shifter should be cheaper to buy than th8 + basherboard, if you don't already own one. Some say that fanatec one is superior to thrustmaster one.
 
PROpheT 216
Thanks for the link. Have you used both? Opinion on the 2?
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I own both (see signature below the post). Basically both shifters internals use roughly the same principles in their construction. Fanatec's implementation and execution is just a lot more solid in my opinion, plus the tension screw works a lot better too.
Both shifters have a bit of a weak feel when going through neutral, but the tension spring for that can be easily replaced (haven't done it yet).

So I prefer the CSS SQ above the TH8. It's a more robust shifter and feels better due to its weight. The TH8 is too light and has too little resistance by comparison.
 
In my research cs shifter seems to have a tighter H pattern...little to tight... Vs the th8 that has a slightly wider more natural pattern. But the cs has stiffness adjustability that the th8 doesn't. Th8 looks better... I saw the whole post that the shift knob screw's onto on the cs shifter had a little play...it was never tight always seems like knob is loose... Wonder if that has been addressed
 
PROpheT 216
In my research cs shifter seems to have a tighter H pattern...little to tight... Vs the th8 that has a slightly wider more natural pattern. But the cs has stiffness adjustability that the th8 doesn't. Th8 looks better... I saw the whole post that the shift knob screw's onto on the cs shifter had a little play...it was never tight always seems like knob is loose... Wonder if that has been addressed
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Depends on what you are used to in your own car. I drive a Lancia Delta and my dad owns a Alfa Romeo 156 2.0TS sedan. Both cars have a pattern tightness more equal to the CSS.

The knob on the CSS isn't loose but the shaft has a little play. It's not that bad and at least I personally don't notice this during shifts.
 
TH8RS do have stiffness adjustment. Similar construction as the CSS just not the dimensions of it. They both suffer from getting softer with use so you can say in the long term they don´t have stiffness adjustment. luckily I kind of like the default stiffness on the CSS SQ so that hasn´t been much of a deal for me. A good gearbox is easy to work with. Unless I am wrong and it will get softer on me but I am running it on the soft side of things and it feels solid going into gears anyway. The play of the shaft is a bit frustrating but if it´s the cost for having a SQ mode it´s worth it for me. Do the regular CSS has this play? It´s not worth it for lockouts of Reverse and 7th gear. But that locked out 7th gear I actually found use for in ETS 2 for changing the range. Still I don´t need the lockout at all it´s just annoying. You can of course not use it as a 7th gear while racing that would just mean frustration. Luckily not found a racecar that uses it that isn´t operated by paddles anyway.

TH8RS would get back to stock non resistance after just about an hour or so though I wonder how such issues get past testing. False advertizing I would call it. As a sequential it did it´s job though and is a bit more direct and faster then the CSS SQ. But I don´t believe I would use it as a seq shifter just because the nice knobs of the CSS SQ if nothing else. I can´t A-B them for apparent reasons. As for analogue hand brake no felt awful for that just use SQ mode ;)

Creating good H-shifters seem to be a very daunting task the CSS is the only one I actually been relatively happy about. First time I got the SST lightning shifter I did like it but I got a chance to revisit that and then it was loud as heck and not feeling all that great anymore. Though I am having my CSS SQ on rma for the selector between SQ and H-shifter getting loose. Even the sun has spots. Not an issue in H-shifter mode but it´s not good when running SQ to have it switch to H-shifter mode.
 
Quick questions. Does anyone with the CSL Seat have the new handbrake? If yes, is there a place to mount the CSHB on the CSL? From the looks of it there is no real good location. Second, is the paddle shifting action different on the new CS Hub vs the Formula and BMW rims?
 
bumer
Where do you see such price? Maybe they have fixed it, because I see that all those new packages cost the same.
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It was on the main tab with all the other wheels but it seems since the time I posted that message and now that the site has been updated cause now the price for the GT rim and hub is the same $350 like the others. Must have just been a typo kinda like how it showed the new formula rim weighing more than the standard.

PROpheT 216
Eager to see what today's announcement will be!
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Pretty positive the announcement that was going to be today is the Porsche rim they just released. Thomas said on the iracing forums the the new announcement would not be in every sim racers budget and that they already have it in stock ready to ship. The new Porsche rim falls into both of those categories and if you notice on the fanatec page they put "best for last" as the title for the Porsche rim. All those clues lead me to believe that's going to be it for a little while far as new stuff goes.
 
paskowitz
Quick questions. Does anyone with the CSL Seat have the new handbrake? If yes, is there a place to mount the CSHB on the CSL? From the looks of it there is no real good location.
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Originally, there's no way to mount it. Only way is to make your own at this point. That's why I haven't bought it yet as I have no opportunities to make my own even though it isn't that difficult to come up with something.
Those who don't have the shifter, only use paddles, they get off easy.
 
I just wanted to piggy-back on some of the comments comparing the Thrustmaster TH8RS to the Fanatec ClubSport Shifter SQ. I ran the TH8RS with the Basher SFA1 plugged into my CSR Elite.

I wanted something that felt more realistic than the Fanatec CSR Shifter I had been using and I lusted after the TH8RS for a while since it looked to be constructed really well and had a proper H-gate. I bought one when the Basher SFA1 came out (a must-have).

TH8RS Pros:
  • Metal construction, magnetic contactless sensors
  • Proper H-gates, 7+1
  • Offers sequential shift and analog handbrake modes
  • Relatively realistic movement
  • Relatively compact
  • Relatively light
  • Effective clamping mechanism (and can be hard mounted)
  • Adjustable detent tension
  • Adjustable mounting angles
  • Excellent PC utility for fine-tuning
TH8RS Cons:
  • Spring tension/overall feel is a little too light
  • Slightly vague feel, a little too easy to mis-shift, especially into 5th
  • Sequential mode requires replacing the gate, needs tools
  • Basher SFA1 needed to support Fanatec wheels
  • A tad overpriced at MSRP; buy on sale

The TH8RS is a very good shifter and performs well, but it still didn't have the realistic feeling I was craving. It sort of feels like a next generation G27 shifter. I preordered the Fanatec ClubSport Shifter SQ when they started taking orders, as it really looked like it was built to feel realistic.

Fanatec CSS SQ Pros:
  • Incredibly solid construction
  • Internal H-gates with 7th gear and reverse lockout
  • Heavy, realistic shifting feel, weight, and throw
  • Sequential mode switchable on-the-fly
  • Very precise and satisfying to use in both modes
  • Includes "pistol grip" sequential shifter knob
  • Lots of hard mounting options
  • Adjustable detent tension
Fanatec CSS SQ Cons:
  • IT'S BIG
  • IT'S HEAVY (ideally for use with a cockpit or desk)
  • There's a slight amount of rotational play in the shifter shaft
  • Table clamp is an additional purchase (and it's also quite big!)
  • Practical mounting options are limited due to size and weight
  • USB adapter needed to support non-Fanatec wheels
  • If you need the accessories, it gets very pricey very quickly

Overall I think the Fanatec ClubSport Shifter SQ feels fantastic and is a major step up from the TH8RS. But now that I'm looking at all the pros and cons objectively it's quite clear the TH8RS still has a lot going for it. It's a much more "livable" shifter as its clamping system is quite flexible. Its light weight and compact dimensions also make it suitable for wheel stands. While the CSS SQ can be used with a wheel stand, I really don't recommend it.
 

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