Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out
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Head set jack present also guide button has to be on all Xbox wheels to enable it to connect.
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- Jump_Ace
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Awesome, thanks man
I think I'll just have to remember to grab my DS3 when I play GT5 and I'll have to re-map the in-race functions to the DS3 too, no biggie.
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- Wardez
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I see that the CSR wheel (not elite) is currently for sale on the webshop, I was about to buy a GT2 and now that I saw that the CSR's available for the same price and is still compatible with all three platforms... it got me thinking.
Anyone have one? Just as good as the GT2 or better?
Anyone have one? Just as good as the GT2 or better?
II-zOoLoGy-II
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Wardez
It depends on your tastes really. It has the same base as the GT2. So it comes down to wheel preference: Would you rather have an Alacantara lined Porsche wheel or a race look Forza branded wheel?
If you want to look at the package prices: You can pick up the GT2 Clubsport for $500.00 which includes CS pedals, carbon shifter paddles, and Porsche shifters (H-pattern and sequential) or you can pick up the CSR with CSR Elite pedals for $400.00 and add on the updated CSR shifters (H-pattern and sequential) and carbon paddles for an additional $100, bringing the price up to $500. Of course if you don't want the paddles or shifters you are still looking at the same price, $400, if you pick up either wheel with the CSR Elite pedals.
I had been planning on picking up the GT2 for Forza 4 for months, until I saw the prices for the CSR. Long story short, I pre-ordered my CSR and CSR Elite pedals yesterday.
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I too have been following this thread and the CSR developements closely. Last weekend however i chose the other option: I ordered the GT2 clubsport package.
I bet the CSR elite wheel will be very nice, but it would NEED another rim in my opinion: i cannot ignore the fact that the wheel has not been disigned properly. The sharp flat aluminum but is bound to cause troubles. So in the end, with buying another rim and the Clubsport Elite pedals, it would be much more expensive, plus i would have to wait for the Elite, the Clubsport Elite pedals, the shifter, the ebrake.. And the wheels still need to prove their "improved reliability". The japanese review didnt give me an all to good feeling...
I bet the CSR elite wheel will be very nice, but it would NEED another rim in my opinion: i cannot ignore the fact that the wheel has not been disigned properly. The sharp flat aluminum but is bound to cause troubles. So in the end, with buying another rim and the Clubsport Elite pedals, it would be much more expensive, plus i would have to wait for the Elite, the Clubsport Elite pedals, the shifter, the ebrake.. And the wheels still need to prove their "improved reliability". The japanese review didnt give me an all to good feeling...
Mr Latte
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Each to their own. Id deffo go with the CSR wheel at this stage as the paddle shifters and new feel might be better than the GT2. Of course everyone has their own preferences regards styling etc.
The Elite pedals are already in transit so no waiting for those really. The new shifters are due soon and the handbrake of course will likely be later regardless of what wheel someone buys.
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One thing I noticed as a bit of a surprise is the following regards the Elite Pedals:
"First pedal set to offer optional inversion kit. Owners can invert all or just the pedals they prefer to better fit their driving style."
I assumed the Elite pedals would offer that functionality as standard not an option, mmmmmmm.
The Elite pedals are already in transit so no waiting for those really. The new shifters are due soon and the handbrake of course will likely be later regardless of what wheel someone buys.
Edit:
One thing I noticed as a bit of a surprise is the following regards the Elite Pedals:
"First pedal set to offer optional inversion kit. Owners can invert all or just the pedals they prefer to better fit their driving style."
I assumed the Elite pedals would offer that functionality as standard not an option, mmmmmmm.
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hampus_dh
Care to elaborate on some specifics?
Unless you work for fanatec or were a beta tester you cannot make this claim with any validity at all. Some features certainly do look better but if it handles just like a gt2 then i would take full alcantara wrap over the csr rim anyday. Although the csr paddle shifters seem leaps and bounds over the currently available wheels.
Edit: and if you do work for or were a beta tester i will gladly eat my humble pie
hampus_dh
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Care to elaborate on some specifics?
Unless you work for fanatec or were a beta tester you cannot make this claim with any validity at all. Some features certainly do look better but if it handles just like a gt2 then i would take full alcantara wrap over the csr rim anyday. Although the csr paddle shifters seem leaps and bounds over the currently available wheels.
Edit: and if you do work for or were a beta tester i will gladly eat my humble pie
Go grab the coffee you said you would take and do some reading instead on how the two wheels differ from each other mechanically. Then come back here.
It´s pointless discussing anything with a person that simply looks at it then rads the name then assumes it´s the same internals.
The GT2 for example is night and day compared to a T500RS, if you ask why then i will terminate this conversation right now, thanks.
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- Vaxxtx
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Wow...I assume you are talking about the CSR Elite. You do know there are 2 different wheels right? CSR, and CSR Elite?
I think if you are going to act all high and mighty, at least know what he is talking about.
Since you made that ever so insightful statement "Night and Day", please do elaborate. Tell us how the inner workings of two wheels (CSR and GT2) that share the same base differ so much.
II-zOoLoGy-II
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hampus_dh
So, no. He has no idea what he or anyone else is talking about.
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What an arrogant attitude...
We all know that the internals are different, but how that results in a better performance (durability and issue likelyhood) is unknown, even to the beta testers probably as it takes a significant amount of time to have them arise.
From reading the Japanese guys blog who tested the beta and final version of the elite wheel (i hope you read that) i had the feeling he wasnt to confident about the wheel slipping issues under high force feedback conditions. Not because of the new internals but because of the way they had been put to work together.
Regardless of that its the shape of the CSR(E) inner rimbase that makes me not want it (without the GT, or drift rim).
LOL: ding dong; my GT clubsport package just arrived! Got to go..
+1 till he does elaborate; i know what ive read and seen "on the net"..
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The CSR goes into detail about "3 Force Feedback motors and smooth belt drive deliver sensational realism" something I do NOT see for the GT2 as well as "# Force Feedback is handled by a Powerful Mabuchi RS550 Motor that's used in RC cars
# Additional 2 Force Feedback actuators in the wheel simulates motor vibrations
# Extra smooth and silent belt drive with minimized mechanical dead zone
# High resolution wheel sensor
# Strong table clamps with a quick release keeps everything in place. Integrated screw inserts allows a fixed or hard mounting solution on a gaming cockpit"
All of these are new from the GT2. So, you do get a nice upgrade in internals with the CSR, BUT, not a fully alcantra wrapped rim. To me, I like the GT2 Rim compared to the CSR. BUT, if the internals are THAT much better, than the CSR is a true night and day difference from the GT2.
So, for $250, you ask me which one, it's a no brainer. CSR as of now. But, I am holding out for the CSW and keep my GT2 for the 360. You get what you pay for.
# Additional 2 Force Feedback actuators in the wheel simulates motor vibrations
# Extra smooth and silent belt drive with minimized mechanical dead zone
# High resolution wheel sensor
# Strong table clamps with a quick release keeps everything in place. Integrated screw inserts allows a fixed or hard mounting solution on a gaming cockpit"
All of these are new from the GT2. So, you do get a nice upgrade in internals with the CSR, BUT, not a fully alcantra wrapped rim. To me, I like the GT2 Rim compared to the CSR. BUT, if the internals are THAT much better, than the CSR is a true night and day difference from the GT2.
So, for $250, you ask me which one, it's a no brainer. CSR as of now. But, I am holding out for the CSW and keep my GT2 for the 360. You get what you pay for.
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Arrogance of this level in posting is rare. Unfortunately not once in a lifetime occurrence..
Arrogance is acting like you're an uncommon genius, for doing the ordinary. Arrogance in a helpful community is the exception to the rule, and that is often reflected in posting history.
Arrogance is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it...
Sorry, don't want to start a flame war here, so please take this as tongue and cheek as intended. Just maybe a little less attitude would go a long way...
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- Vaxxtx
- Vaxxtx
Answering with wrong information probably isnt a good idea. Stating things are new and not on the GT2 is inaccurate, and then saying its a no-brainer off mis-information..
Especially if you own a GT2, I would assume you know. Here you go, pretty easy to tell they are the same base.
hampus_dh and you are making claims that are pretty arrogant and wrong. Please get facts before posting.
http://www.fanatec.com/pwgt2
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- Intimidat3r421
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As far as i knew i would agree with your post, but as it seems someone was clever enough to check up on that. (EDIT: and got mis informed it seems lol the irony)
But take into account the highlighted sections of your post and combine them; a very smooth belt with a high powered force feedback motor attached to it. add two additional ffb motors to it and its bound to slip. Not under normal racing conditions, but imagen your front right tire clipping a wall at an apex and what that does for the steering wheel; a large and sudden jerk of force to one side.
Not trying to trashtalk the wheel, just expressing my doubts and reasons to buy the GT2, which is now unpacked. Super tuff packeging; i like that..
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Wait...I thought the CSR E was the Xbox360 compatible unit and it will be available for the FM4 release? I read somewhere that Thomas said that the FM4 wheels are "swimming" to the states and should be here for the FM4 release date?
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Wait...I thought the CSR E was the Xbox360 compatible unit and it will be available for the FM4 release? I read somewhere that Thomas said that the FM4 wheels are "swimming" to the states and should be here for the FM4 release date?
Yes, but only the CSR, CSR elite PEDALS, and shifters were approved in time. The Elite just made approval, and will be a month or 2 til it sees the "seas" It just started full time production a couple days back according to Thomas' Blog.
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