Fanatec Announcements: CSW V2 Reviews Out

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Good news for Forza fans!
I have a meeting with the team of Turn 10 this week and we will discuss several things we could do together for their next title of Forza Motorsport.

If you would like to add something, please let me know. Please tell me any wheel/pedal/shifter related issues you have in FM6 and let us know what new features you would like to see supported in FM7.

Please do not list any other things as we will only discuss issues or features related to our products.

This is your chance to change something!

UPDATE

I had a very good meeting with them and I am happy to report that there is a good chance that a lot of things will change for the better in upcoming FM titles. There is a new person who is responsible for physics and force feedback and this is a "wheel guy". He is a real world racer with car engineering background and very familiar with PC simracing.

The PC market seems very important for them and they are aware that this market is dominated by wheel users. Therefore we will intensify our co-operation and get the best out of the games for wheel users.

I cannot confirm at this point what features can be implemented but the interest to do so is very high.

Please continue to give me feedback and I will make sure that you will be heard.
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Is anyone around here using this universal hub? I'm thinking of building a highly specialized steering wheel from scratch and might consider using the "guts" of this thing if possible. Thanks in advance for your replies. 👍
 
12thgear
@kapnk006 Yup I've got a couple of the Xbox One Universal Hubs. What do you want to know?
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I'm curious how much modification I'd need to do with the existing hub cage. My custom steerring wheel design (that I currently have prototyped on a G27) would require that the 4 x (3-button) switches be repositioned in locations that it looks like this stock metal cage would not allow for. At the very least I would need a 4.5" spacing of the buttons shown below. I'd also need to bypass/eliminate the paddle shifter assemblies entirely. Shifting would need to be mapped to RB and LB. Have you seen any of these hubs for sale used in the marketplace? Perhaps I could cut down the stock metal cage and modify to accomplish all that? Thanks for your replies 👍

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I'm curious how much modification I'd need to do with the existing hub cage. My custom steerring wheel design (that I currently have prototyped on a G27) would require that the 4 x (3-button) switches be repositioned in locations that it looks like this stock metal cage would not allow for. At the very least I would need a 4.5" spacing of the buttons shown below. I'd also need to bypass/eliminate the paddle shifter assemblies entirely. Shifting would need to be mapped to RB and LB. Have you seen any of these hubs for sale used in the marketplace? Perhaps I could cut down the stock metal cage and modify to accomplish all that? Thanks for your replies 👍
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You'd perhaps need to fashion a bracket that bolts directly onto the spokes of the steering wheel to hold the button boxes in place. I think the cables are long enough on the button boxes to accommodate the spacing you need, but I'll need to double check. I do have a spare Universal Hub available (older model, PC and PS3 compatibility) that I'd be happy to sell off. I switched to the Xbox One compatible hubs. I can also take some photos of the internals if you want to see how things are laid out.
 
12thgear
You'd perhaps need to fashion a bracket that bolts directly onto the spokes of the steering wheel to hold the button boxes in place. I think the cables are long enough on the button boxes to accommodate the spacing you need, but I'll need to double check. I do have a spare Universal Hub available (older model, PC and PS3 compatibility) that I'd be happy to sell off. I switched to the Xbox One compatible hubs. I can also take some photos of the internals if you want to see how things are laid out.
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Yes, I think you understand well what I am trying to accomplish. Photos of the internals would be fantastic. I don't even have a base or pedals yet and that could be a bit far off, but throw me a price on the hub, if you wish, thanks! :bowdown: 👍
 
skazz
Apologies, I didn't see how else to interpret your words: "grain of salt".

To be honest, the actual statements about power and center feel didn't seem to be "biased" or "hyped", so much as stating his opinions in what sounded quite open and honest. The comments afterwards about rim quality was definitely showing a level of bias, although the statement about cost of rims is obviously true.
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From his review I was going to get a T300 but I was afraid of the reliability issues with thrustmaster so I went with a CSL elite.

From my experience using CSL elite only on PC with Assetto Corsa, Automobilistica , RaceRoom and Project Cars,
There is no "fighting with it around the centre" like he described. There is nothing of that feeling at all.
I can only imagine maybe an ingame setting like minimal FFB setting too high might have given him that effect.

It seems he really doesn't know how to setup a wheel properly, from mounting to game settings.
 
I thought Simexperience wheel would be a good alernative to Fanatec CSW V2. The cheapest option they had just costed around 200€ more than a CSW V2 base and BMW rim but when relized you get no paddleshifters or buttons on the wheel plus a whopping 182$ shipping fee.
 
Simmpa
I thought Simexperience wheel would be a good alernative to Fanatec CSW V2. The cheapest option they had just costed around 200€ more than a CSW V2 base and BMW rim but when relized you get no paddleshifters or buttons on the wheel plus a whopping 182$ shipping fee.
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It starts getting to the point where you gotta ask yourself... "Should I just buy a Miata and track it?"
 
paskowitz
It starts getting to the point where you gotta ask yourself... "Should I just buy a Miata and track it?"
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Good point. If I add up all the money I have spent on sim racing hardware over the years I pretty sure i could have bought a decent little track car and plenty of track time. Once my daughter has left home and on her own two feet I definitely plan to do something like that with the money we save. My wife isn't aware of that yet but that's a small detail!!
 
PzR Slim
Good point. If I add up all the money I have spent on sim racing hardware over the years I pretty sure i could have bought a decent little track car and plenty of track time. Once my daughter has left home and on her own two feet I definitely plan to do something like that with the money we save. My wife isn't aware of that yet but that's a small detail!!
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Yeah but if you put it into the tire wall sim racing all your equipment is still good. Not so much at a track day.
 
I just looked at the prices of AccuForce's wheels...

Um yeah. I think I'd rather put that money into my car. I could use a new exhaust, tires and sway bars instead. It's going to be tough enough to justify replacing the CSR with a CSL base and wheel rim. I don't think the Mrs. would go for an Accuforce setup. Now, If I won the lottery... :lol:
 
Dopplegagger
I just looked at the prices of AccuForce's wheels...

Um yeah. I think I'd rather put that money into my car. I could use a new exhaust, tires and sway bars instead. It's going to be tough enough to justify replacing the CSR with a CSL base and wheel rim. I don't think the Mrs. would go for an Accuforce setup. Now, If I won the lottery... :lol:
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If you win the lottery Leo Bodnar Wheel FTW !
 
PzR Slim
Good point. If I add up all the money I have spent on sim racing hardware over the years I pretty sure i could have bought a decent little track car and plenty of track time. Once my daughter has left home and on her own two feet I definitely plan to do something like that with the money we save. My wife isn't aware of that yet but that's a small detail!!
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Honestly, the whole "you could buy a track car for that" argument is so off the mark.

My rig which I think is a fairly decent setup (CSWv2, BMW and Formula rims, modified CSPv2s, DSD Pro Sequential Shifter, Buttkicker, Amp and Simvibe, triple screens and a PC) set me back a few thousand for sure, but it is nothing compared to what I've spent on my actual car for track days, and it's still a WIP.

If you want to do it properly you need safety gear, clothing, helmet, HANS, fire extinguisher, seat, harness, cage, engineers cert, entry fees. There goes the sim racing rig build budget right there before you even hit the track.

Sure, you can do it at a more basic level, but even then you have to ensure the car can run reliably.. Tires, brakes, fuel, oil and other fluids, tools, upgrades to basic mechanical integrity in order to actually use the car properly...

With a simulator you can go to any circuit you want in any car you want for as long as you want whenever you want with no significant ongoing costs.
 
Punknoodle
Honestly, the whole "you could buy a track car for that" argument is so off the mark.

My rig which I think is a fairly decent setup (CSWv2, BMW and Formula rims, modified CSPv2s, DSD Pro Sequential Shifter, Buttkicker, Amp and Simvibe, triple screens and a PC) set me back a few thousand for sure, but it is nothing compared to what I've spent on my actual car for track days, and it's still a WIP.

If you want to do it properly you need safety gear, clothing, helmet, HANS, fire extinguisher, seat, harness, cage, engineers cert, entry fees. There goes the sim racing rig build budget right there before you even hit the track.

Sure, you can do it at a more basic level, but even then you have to ensure the car can run reliably.. Tires, brakes, fuel, oil and other fluids, tools, upgrades to basic mechanical integrity in order to actually use the car properly...

With a simulator you can go to any circuit you want in any car you want for as long as you want whenever you want with no significant ongoing costs.
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Merry Christmas. Lighten up a little?
 
IMO, when the price of sim racing gets into the multi thousand dollar range the consideration to do real life racing becomes more reasonable. I'm also basing my arguement on the party in question already having some type of trackable car. It's not a perfect comparison for sure, but I think it is one worthy of consideration.
 
Even already having a trackable car the costs are high, not saying it's not worth doing at all, just saying that your money goes a whole lot further when you invest in sim racing gear. I have a general practice day coming up at my local track in Jan, entry for that will be I think $120, then you have to factor in the fuel for the day, brakes and tires will have one less track day's life on them, oil and coolant changes afterward, and anything that fails on the day (hopefully nothing!).. Best case is there's a few hundred for ONE DAY of testing. Sim racing is no substitute for the thrill you get doing it for real, but it's close, and you get a hell of a lot more use out of it than if you were to put the same amount of money in to a track car. That's all I'm saying. It's like comparing apples to... caviar.
 
So the CSP V3's with the brake performance kit is worth the coin. Interesting. I was considering the CSL-Elite pedals, but I wanted to keep most of the adjustability I have in the base CSR pedals I now own. I am glad that the performance kit brings the CSP brake in line with the CSL. And the kit isn't going to break the bank.

So far, I'm liking 2017. :)
 
Looking at ISR's video again...

There is another area where John could have adjusted the pedals. He could have shortened the throw of the pedals by changing the holes that the load cell was attached to. Right now my CSR's brake pedal is set to have the shortest throw, and the spring is as tight as I could possibly adjust it with out using a hand tool. My braking is pretty consistent, but it's not exactly muscle memory. It's close though...

That adjustability is something I do not want to lose, and that's why I am not considering the CSL-Elite pedals. If the CSL's had that, I'd get them instead.
 
CSP V3 accelerator hall sensor failure. I'm going to have to get my second replacement. Anyone else with trouble or am I doing it wrong?

Never mind, it appears to be just a loose nut behind the wheel. My best guess is simply a bad USB connection.
 
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CSP V3 accelerator hall sensor failure. I'm going to have to get my second replacement. Anyone else with trouble or am I doing it wrong?

Never mind, it appears to be just a loose nut behind the wheel. My best guess is simply a bad USB connection.
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My CSPV2s have had continual problems with the throttle hall sensor.
Its never failed completely, but its given me problems over the years.
- Not registering 100% - disconnect/reconnect the ps2 cable to the wheel for temp fix
- Without touching the throttle, it mysteriously senses input and flutters around 0-3% throttle input for no reason - Sometimes taking them apart and cleaning would fix this.

Cant wait for PT-1s to arrive. With an old-school pot, it may not be as fancy, but hopefully more reliable.
 

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