FC "Ladder" Championship Event
- Thread starter Biggles
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- Hereward
- Herewward
Hope no one minds but I've opened an invitation to the clubhouse members to join the Lader, they'll all start at the bottom obviously but the more members the better I would think. All are clean drivers and I've asked them to join GTp to get details, theres already 2 new guys in with WayneJones and Little-Jobbie plus myself and GT Niehder who are existings GTP members. I've duplicated the lader positions list over on the clubhouse website. Any problems with this just let me know and I'll remove it.
- 10,373
- Manchester
- Ardius_
Biggles, I'd like to be taken off the ladder temporarily because I do not have reliable amounts of time to do this. I do plan on competing in this at some point, but I don't think anyone challenging me to a race will find me very easy to organise times with. I also don't like being tied to something where I have to race quite regularly, especially because you're doing it in a way where anyone below me wouldn't be able to advance without me being around to race.
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- holy_sword
RB stands for REV Bar, my eyes aren't good enough to see the one in the car.
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- Goes_To_11 GTP_GoesTo11
I think that the rev bar should be allowed. I just moved, in my old place the lighting in my living room made it really hard to see the tach. Some cars are almost impossible. My new place is much better at least with the 430 but I can see how other people would have problems and the rev bar doesn't give you any advantage that you wouldn't have when driving a car in real life.
- 6,064
- Simcoeace
Ardius: I would like to encourage you (& everyone else) to stay on the Ladder. Unlike a centrally organised "season", there is no precise commitment required to participate in the Ladder - race when you can. If you are not able to race for a time, you will gradually move down the Ladder, but it should not negatively impact the other participants to any significant degree. I know I will not be able to race for two week periods, when I will be away traveling on business.
The idea behind the Ladder is to focus attention on FC & bring together people playing it "casually" in a more organised context, so that it will be easier to consistently get good races online. I am hoping that having an "official" event like this, will persuade more GTPlanet members to give up their "death-grip" on GT5P & give FC a try. At this point, we really need to recruit as many new participants as we can. I think that the more people get involved with the Ladder, the more fun it will be for everyone.
The idea behind the Ladder is to focus attention on FC & bring together people playing it "casually" in a more organised context, so that it will be easier to consistently get good races online. I am hoping that having an "official" event like this, will persuade more GTPlanet members to give up their "death-grip" on GT5P & give FC a try. At this point, we really need to recruit as many new participants as we can. I think that the more people get involved with the Ladder, the more fun it will be for everyone.
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- Manchester
- Ardius_
Yes, I realise that Biggles, but what I'm saying is that I won't be playing FC at all very much for the next few weeks because I just can't say I will have the time alongside my uni work among other things. I'm basically saying I won't be racing anyone for several weeks (if not months) and I think its best that I work my way up the ladder from the bottom at a later date rather than mess about trying to organise the occasional race.
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- holy_sword
We need some type of data collection. Lets face it, the leaderboard is a great tool(how can we use it in its current form?). Extend the ladder out to all tracks, lets just see what laps times are without aids in time trial mode. I may have some times set in my earlier days that were with aids(others too), so that would challenge me(others) to beat that time with no aids. does this make any sense?
you can have a competition going with someone without having to schedule anything, nothing, just play at your own schedule or add this to race ladder?
example i set time on Silverstone in time trial mode 158.23, i challenge biggles to beat it. same rules apply from race ladder?
you can have a competition going with someone without having to schedule anything, nothing, just play at your own schedule or add this to race ladder?
example i set time on Silverstone in time trial mode 158.23, i challenge biggles to beat it. same rules apply from race ladder?
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- 7,177
- Lisboa
- FLAT_TWELVE
So, that's what RB is !! 
Last night I was puzzled by it, because my previous time was made with the "Braking Zones" line and the assist shown on the leaderboard was "RL". But I saw in other players the RB assist (one of them is SEGEL) and I just couldn't figure out what assist that could be.
In my view, that's not an assist
Last night I was puzzled by it, because my previous time was made with the "Braking Zones" line and the assist shown on the leaderboard was "RL". But I saw in other players the RB assist (one of them is SEGEL) and I just couldn't figure out what assist that could be.In my view, that's not an assist
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- holy_sword
there is no option to restrict the Rev Bar
- 6,064
- Simcoeace
I understand you have to concentrate on your studies - heaven knows: we old codgers are going to need someone to help support us in our old age!
I think it's reasonable to allow the Rev Bar "assist".
Hun has made the suggestion that instead of having the F430 as the "default" car, the Challenger gets to choose the car used for the racing. I think this may be a good idea for introducing more variety in the racing (& results). Perhaps the best thing would be for the Challenger to select the car & the tracks to be used in the majority of the races (ie. 3 out of 5, 4 out of 7 etc.) & the Challenged racer to select the cat & the tracks in the remaining races. The only downside to this would be that it would be necessary to switch lobbies in order to race with a different car. How does everyone feel about this - it might open the racing up a lot.
The other change I propose is this: if the Challenger wins he moves up to take the position formerly occupied by the losing Challenged racer, but the losing racer just drops down one position, NOT to the position formerly occupied by the winning racer (unless the Challenger was just one position below him on the Ladder. This means that racers who are not actively racing will automatically drop down the Ladder, as other racers move above them. Does this explanation make sense to everyone?
- 1,056
- London
Yea i agree with that. It should definitely be between the two races what cars they race in, it is for their entertainment after all.
Also i dont use the "RB" myself but i dont see it as an assist and have nothing against it being used by others. On the note of hard to see gauges, the only thing i hate about cockpit mode is it is impossible to see the speedo. The rev gauge is normally ok for me, JUST, but i never can read the speedo which is frustrating. And i cant use external views.
Also i dont use the "RB" myself but i dont see it as an assist and have nothing against it being used by others. On the note of hard to see gauges, the only thing i hate about cockpit mode is it is impossible to see the speedo. The rev gauge is normally ok for me, JUST, but i never can read the speedo which is frustrating. And i cant use external views.
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- Mingoturbo
estoi ya apuntado al ferrari challenge? decirme algo
- 36,655
- Scotland
- GTP_daan
Welcome to GTP, but please make your posts in English. Thank you.
hey j-PaP
I can see that your tt is around the same as mine before we started this
championsship.I had to try different lines to see where i might gain some
time.In the first corner after the straight i was driving to tight to the curb
to get a good line to the next corner(left).now i accelerate from around
half way into the corner to hit the curb on the left side and then slow down
to make the left turn after.hopes this help a little.i'll give you some more
help if you want.this alone gave me around 1 sec.try that first
- 6,064
- Simcoeace
I have added Mingoturbo & Zathra (GoesTo11) to the Ladder. I would also like to point out that SEGEL has one-upped sarrinen69 by posting a sub 1:53 time: 1:52.98 on the leaderboards. Congratulations to SEGEL for having the fastest time in the universe, however I'm not going to change his time on the Ladder, as the point of the Ladder is to establish a framework for the racing, not to have an open-ended Time Trial event.
Some of the posted times have "assists" - I'm inclined to ignore this, just so we can proceed to the racing, unless anyone has violent objections to this...
Hopefully, we can get the "rules" for the Ladder racing finalized by the end of this week.
Some great racing online tonight. At times there were 5, 6,7 & even 8 car GTP grids racing, with, apparently, no real problems. I am hopeful that once we get the Ladder established, we can use it as the basis for 4-man GTP races, using racers grouped together on the Ladder. I tend to think this is the optimal size for FC, in order to avoid excessive lag & organisational issues.
Some of the posted times have "assists" - I'm inclined to ignore this, just so we can proceed to the racing, unless anyone has violent objections to this...
Hopefully, we can get the "rules" for the Ladder racing finalized by the end of this week.
Some great racing online tonight. At times there were 5, 6,7 & even 8 car GTP grids racing, with, apparently, no real problems. I am hopeful that once we get the Ladder established, we can use it as the basis for 4-man GTP races, using racers grouped together on the Ladder. I tend to think this is the optimal size for FC, in order to avoid excessive lag & organisational issues.
- 6,064
- Simcoeace
The beauty of FC is the way it forces you to work with the weight transfer & use the momentum of the car to maximize your speed. IMO one of the keys to driving fast, particularly at the series of corners in the first half of Mugello, is to brake early & swing a little wider at the approach to the corners, so that you can straighten out the car & get back on the throttle as early as possible.
Of course, I'm talking about achieving a 1:55.xx time - I have no idea how you get down in the 1:52xx times - perhaps the exact opposite of what I am suggesting!
- 6,064
- Simcoeace
I agree it's not "fair". But I give up trying to regulate it (I suspect, in some cases, people aren't even aware that the aids are switched on - the game has a funny way of turning on the aids without you realising). I think, in the end, it's not going to make much difference to the results one way or the other (in other words, I don't think having the rev bar on is going to give me the 2 seconds I need to catch sarrinen or SEGEL
)I suggest we start this weekend. I'm still hoping to get a few more people involved at the start. What's with fairplay & marchbrown. Can anyone persuade them to sign-up?
I'll post the "final" rules on Friday. I'm thinking we should go with the "Challenger picks the car" principle - it should make for some more varied & interesting racing...
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