February Tuner Garage Battle!!! [CLOSED]

[psychot|K]

Hrm? You no longer running it = you backing out.

Pass the torch if you still feel like giving it up when you're done administrating the first round. We're used to dealing with your system at the moment so lets not change mid stride or it's a lot of wasted time for everyone involved. Don't emo out over having your decisions questioned, just make them and tell everyone who makes an issue of it to STFU. Lots of CEOs make money that way.

I generally only criticize someone more when they quit over being criticized... so just tough it out.

Word. Don't end it now. This is the only competition that test the tunes the tunes make.

Frankly, I just don't want to have to deal with Adrenaline. Call me old fashioned (hell, I am old) but I find the lack of any trace of respect a bit off-putting. And seeing as this TGB has the legs to last for a good long while, I'd just rather pass the torch now.

This old "drama queen" who "can't differentiate between concerns and insults" is signing off

Cheers everyone!

 

[budious]

To avoid the futility of going through the process for nothing will you at least get back on the wagon for the duration of February round? If you still want to give it up it will give us a month to find you a replacement.

 

[psychot|K]

To avoid the futility of going through the process for nothing will you at least get back on the wagon for the duration of February round? If you still want to give it up it will give us a month to find you a replacement.

One has already stepped up to the plate:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=166724&page=2#post4727925

You won't even notice a thing! With Adrenaline in charge things will run as cool as a cucumber

 

[Goshin2568]

One has already stepped up to the plate:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=166724&page=2#post4727925

You won't even notice a thing! With Adrenaline in charge things will run as cool as a cucumber

Ok honestly, I really have nothing to do with this, just a casual spectator, but you are being a little unreasonable. All Adrenaline said was that the rules were a little hazy. That's all. That's neither unconstructive nor an insult. Just move on. It's a little childish to give up as soon as you get one bit of criticism, constructive or otherwise. You had a good thing going. Keep with it.

 

[psychot|K]

Childish?

A man doesn't tolerate disrespect to himself, or his time.

I'm not from America, maybe that's why I find Adrenaline's tone repulsive. But where and how I was raised, the "unreasonable" and nearly unthinkable thing to do in this situation, would be to believe for an instant that my own best efforts are worth any less respect in-kind than I have shown others during my work with the TGB.

You try and tell me that I'm being unreasonable by deciding on how I decide to spend my free time by withdrawing. THAT, to me, is unreasonable.

 

[Goshin2568]

Whatever. Say what you want about being a man. I still think its very childish to say "he's being mean! I quit!". Couple that with the fact that adrenaline really wasn't being 'mean' in the first place, and yes, I would say you are being very unreasonable.

Look. No hard feelings. Its your decision. But some of us who were really looking forward to this kind of feel let down by you just throwing in the towel for such a unimportant and stupid thing.

 

[articzap]

But some of us who were really looking forward to this kind of feel let down by you just throwing in the towel

I agree with that sentence. I really wish this would have happened. I've never pitted my tune against another or even posted them online because I don't feel they're great, but this was gonna be the true test.

 

[mafia_boy]

If stuff like this keeps happening, then you know what we need to do, right?

Get Mafs to do it!

Yeah but then it'll never get done!

True...

Shall we flip a coin then?

Oi! Don't be jealous that my comp had that much participation it created too much work for 3 of the 4 judges, myself included.

I actually have a plan I wanted to talk to you guys about on PSN last night but RJ left after his C30 beat on my C4. I think you guys will like this.

PM sent to the two catfaces.

 

[stormbringer]

wow, WTF?
I have to say, this is pretty stupid, psychotik. (I dont mean to offend, but im trying to be frank here)

you dont have to care about what anyone else has to say.
It was your idea to start with, your rules, your hard work, your everything here.
screw whatever comments people had to add. why do u let em get to you?
Whatever the rules, you had plenty of interest in this competition and people willing to work with you regardless of your decisions.

you didnt need to quit man, just sleep on it, and dont take this s**t too seriously.
Its just a game, at the end of the day.
Whatever the outcome/rules/method, the competition wouldve served its purpose. Valuable info for all.

and who cares if adrenaline started his own competition...we wouldve gathered twice the amount of info, which wouldve been much appreciated.

 

[BlueShift]

I'm kind of lost now.

Who organize what, where, what car, what rules etc.

Let's be clear and simple : we tune cars, our "jobs" is to make things fast. I personnaly think I just don't care the ones who judges them or the rules now. I just want to have a competition with other garages just to check if I'm telling bs setups or not.

Cancelling a competion D-Day is pretty disrespectfull for the participants, tuners and drivers. Just make it.

Now if you had 10000 competions per week, that wouldn't be a problem. But no we don't have, and yes ppl will enter two or three of them, tuning a car takes 2-10 hours, not one month long damn it.

So what is the problem, there's none, I just don't understand.
And what car to do, where to apply and WHEN does it start damn it. You're all slow.

If it's a problem, you guys can ask to tune the same car under the same condition (ie "max hp/oil change/same tires/mystery track (tuners don't know, like the setups we post for everyday use in this forum)" would make everybody on the same conditions) and note her with two calculations different, one mean, one best time, or that kind of calculation. Each part of the calculating stuff is a contest with two winners and there's a superwinner where both places count for half and that's it.

Actually that would be entertaining.

What does it change for us ? Nothing.

 

[mafia_boy]

tuning a car takes 2-10 hours, not one month long damn it.

Tuning a car takes as long as you want it too. My GT4 cars are proof of that. One car I've spent nearly 5 years developing and in GT5 I've spent nearly two months already to make sure the cars are up to scratch and I'm still not satisfied to release them yet. So 2-10hrs eh?? Mustn't be a lot of testing involved on multiple tracks then, almost a case of pick a setup and go.

 

[budious]

Tuning a car takes as long as you want it too. My GT4 cars are proof of that. One car I've spent nearly 5 years developing and in GT5 I've spent nearly two months already to make sure the cars are up to scratch and I'm still not satisfied to release them yet. So 2-10hrs eh?? Mustn't be a lot of testing involved on multiple tracks then, almost a case of pick a setup and go.

A good tune shouldn't be rushed, I'm still running my STi around on Comfort Softs on stock horsepower deciding how I like the suspension.

 

[psychot|K]

Whatever. Say what you want about being a man. I still think its very childish to say "he's being mean! I quit!". Couple that with the fact that adrenaline really wasn't being 'mean' in the first place, and yes, I would say you are being very unreasonable.

Look. No hard feelings. Its your decision. But some of us who were really looking forward to this kind of feel let down by you just throwing in the towel for such a unimportant and stupid thing.

I never said he was being mean, I said disrespectful, and frankly I just don't like him. I don't want to have to deal with him, and if I was running the TGB I'd have to take his rudely-worded and sarcastic opinions into consideration. Thankfully, if I DON'T run the TGB, I don't have to hear from him at all.

I don't know why any of you would feel let down. He'll take things over and run it all, like he was going to before.

wow, WTF?
I have to say, this is pretty stupid, psychotik. (I dont mean to offend, but im trying to be frank here)

you dont have to care about what anyone else has to say.
It was your idea to start with, your rules, your hard work, your everything here.
screw whatever comments people had to add. why do u let em get to you?
Whatever the rules, you had plenty of interest in this competition and people willing to work with you regardless of your decisions.

you didnt need to quit man, just sleep on it, and dont take this s**t too seriously.
Its just a game, at the end of the day.
Whatever the outcome/rules/method, the competition wouldve served its purpose. Valuable info for all.

and who cares if adrenaline started his own competition...we wouldve gathered twice the amount of info, which wouldve been much appreciated.

No offense taken!

Yea it was my work, but I have no problem in handing my work over so that nothing is lost.

...and you're right, it IS just a game. So, it's really not worth dealing with someone I don't want to have to deal with when I can just wash my hands of it.

Cancelling a competion D-Day is pretty disrespectfull for the participants, tuners and drivers. Just make it.

It's still continuing, man. Check out Adrenaline's thread. If anything there might be a slight delay, but I assume that will be it.

 

[BlueShift]

One car I've spent nearly 5 years developing and in GT5 I've spent nearly two months already to make sure the cars are up to scratch and I'm still not satisfied to release them yet. So 2-10hrs eh?? Mustn't be a lot of testing involved on multiple tracks then, almost a case of pick a setup and go.

There's no generic setup.

So you make one progressing on a selfway that is good for 10 tracks then track#1 setup is screwed.

And then random bob pops in and say "**** car lol".

In term of km, the more I did was 1330km (scuderia), so, no I don't feel like it's "no test". The least I did was 10 runs around the Nür, and guess what, everybody loves it... There's no "testing is the only way to do", some things can be calculated (SR/RH) and some not.

I also think testing too much a car is taking the habit of driving it too much. If I'd do that I'll only have a perfect setup "for me", not for "customers".

For me, testing too much and risking to format the car to me is a thing I avoid. For a competition, that's actually a good point I think.

 

[articzap]

There's no generic setup.

So you make one progressing on a selfway that is good for 10 tracks then track#1 setup is screwed.

And then random bob pops in and say "**** car lol".

In term of km, the more I did was 1330km (scuderia), so, no I don't feel like it's "no test". The least I did was 10 runs around the Nür, and guess what, everybody loves it... There's no "testing is the only way to do", some things can be calculated (SR/RH) and some not.

I also think testing too much a car is taking the habit of driving it too much. If I'd do that I'll only have a perfect setup "for me", not for "customers".

For me, testing too much and risking to format the car to me is a thing I avoid. For a competition, that's actually a good point I think.

I tune trying to achieve a certain feel. I don't worry about lap times or any of that. I just want to it drive the way I want. Doesn't take me long to get it there.

 

[budious]

Moderator can we add a sticky to adrenaline's post so it can be found easier and unsticky this now defunct one.

Also, I had an alternative idea for a tuner garage battle competition that would be less rigorous on tuners and driver entries, which would be to have an open time trial format that could be an ongoing or long format contest.

...a Tuner's Garage Time Trial Battle... put a few formal rules in place, like new time submissions must include a screenshot ... and ghost replay, then we can post the ghost replays in the top 10 if it was a clean valid run and have our own leadersboard event.

Racers should be honest, and if they used a garage's tune mention it, then we have a column for a tuner credit also next to each entry. [Tuner X's; Personal; Modified from Tuner X's; etc.] If you have a super secret personal tune it doesn't have to be made public but just mention it's yours or the garage's (or modified from).

Be a fun way to keep an ongoing long running event format where tuners aren't having to meet a deadline for an entry, and test drivers can drive multiple tunes at their leisure.

Just an idea that crossed my mind while tinkering around in the Camaro Z/28 RM '69 thread.

 

[sLim901]

is there a thread that has all the tunes of the previous months listed without having to go thru every single page?

lol

 

[mytton]

I'm sorry but no matter how you try to twist this, there is no reason to run away from one random person whom you only communicate with over the internet just because he wants to give your competition some criticism. I'm not saying whether I support it or not, and I don't care how old you are or where you are from, but even if it is a matter of disrespect, you can't expect that something as large as this won't attract that kind of reaction as well as a variety of others and should instead use it as constructive advice or decide that it is not what is best for this event.

 

[Project41]

Can we get this thread unstickied yet?