Feed Your NSX Drive!! - Suzuka 550PP [WE] - xx:05 / :25 / :45

[spyrrari]

Some good racing again mates,cheers to all!!!...

👍👍👍



spy.

 

[Synwraith]

Some really nice small-grid races to finish off the night with KOR_Kingpin, Superspyrrari, EBK2, BTH_Don540Ai and Carl

More than made up for the farcical matching issues earlier.

EDIT: Ok ok ONE more

EDIT2: And on the subject of other cars, when a Clio or a RX8 is driven as superbly and respectfully as Ron and JP can drive them, I welcome them on this grid 👍

All the best
Maz

 

[Mr P]

Had a few nice races tonight been away from prologue for months so took it easy to get back into it by running in the easy to drive clio I had many clean fast races tonight though and hopefully nobody has any complaints other than me handbraking over the line at the beginning of lap 5 in one race as I thought it was the end of the race

Anyway... to Maz and all the rest of the guys I had some close races with tonight It defo gave me the taste again and I will be back for more on my next day off work

Cheers,
Ron.

 

[Sphinx]

Had a few nice races tonight been away from prologue for months so took it easy to get back into it by running in the easy to drive clio I had many clean fast races tonight though and hopefully nobody has any complaints other than me handbraking over the line at the beginning of lap 5 in one race as I thought it was the end of the race

Anyway... to Maz and all the rest of the guys I had some close races with tonight It defo gave me the taste again and I will be back for more on my next day off work

Cheers,
Ron.

Good for you, Ron!
It's great to hear you're back on track. 👍

 

[TN2004S4]

Some really nice small-grid races to finish off the night with KOR_Kingpin, Superspyrrari, EBK2, BTH_Don540Ai and Carl

More than made up for the farcical matching issues earlier.

EDIT: Ok ok ONE more

EDIT2: And on the subject of other cars, when a Clio or a RX8 is driven as superbly and respectfully as Ron and JP can drive them, I welcome them on this grid 👍

All the best
Maz

I just wish everyone has the same vision as you Maz with people that can actually use other cars to be competitive. I personally use the clio, in order to be competitive with you any of you that's on the NSX schedule. I'm simply too slow with the NSX, but am decently quick with the Clio. If I do race under the other schedule, I just won't have the opportunity to run as intense of a race as I had experience under the NSX schedule. When I do match under other schedule, it usually turns into bumper cars or your racing by yourself. It's a shame really.

 

[Synwraith]

I just wish everyone has the same vision as you Maz with people that can actually use other cars to be competitive. I personally use the clio, in order to be competitive with you any of you that's on the NSX schedule. I'm simply too slow with the NSX, but am decently quick with the Clio. If I do race under the other schedule, I just won't have the opportunity to run as intense of a race as I had experience under the NSX schedule. When I do match under other schedule, it usually turns into bumper cars or your racing by yourself. It's a shame really.

The main problem with the other cars is the tyres. People who use 111Rs or Clios are on R tyres and therefore have a massive advantage through the Esses at Suzuka compared with the S3-shod NSXs. This sometimes gets under the skin of the R-tyre drivers because they think they should be allowed right-of-way, simply due to being quicker through the most technical section. Their mistake is to believe themselves to be better drivers and worthy of being waved past. The bump and shove their way past the Hondas in a very sensitive section of track where one bump destroys a race.

The solutions:

1) Create a new schedule fro Clio or Elise only races where you can drive your favourite car against your favourite car for intense competition

2) Try to learn the NSX, it's worth every second of pain to master it believe me, this was less than 6 months ago my #1 most hated car in GT, now it's in the top 3. There are always drivers of differing ability to race against during prime racing hours.

3) If you do bring your car to this event, please respect the fact that the NSX is going to slaughter you in a straight line, and you cannot make stupid moves like passing on the inside of Dunlop just because you feel you have some momentum from getting off the last corner faster than an S-tyred NSX. If Clio and Elise drivers genuinely want to race in the NSX event, then you have to respect the Honda drivers' lines through the esses and accept the fact that you will be passed on the straights.

Remember, we don't run this event so we can beat all the other cars off the line or in a straight line, it's because this is the car we want ro race and ideally, the grid would be 12 Honda NSX-Rs. People like Chunkee Monkey and KOR Kingpin would pile the pressure on in the corners, but never punt or shove through or anything, and never block on the straights. They're here to race for the pleasure of close racing 👍

All the best
Maz

 

[Mr P]

I totally agree The Clio is heaps faster through the esses due to the R tyres but this is basically the only place the Clio is faster tbh add to that the fact that the NSX is so wide it's just stupid to try and pass there so I end up braking like a madman through the esses and lose a good bit of time and momentum and end up drafting the rest of the lap just to stay in touch
In a straight line say from the chicane after T1 and the straight heading towards 130r the NSX is awesome on acceleration and by the time I get some draft the NSX is too close to the turn for me to even attempt the pass and can only hope I can scoot passed midway through 130r but easier said than done Passing the NSX is really hard because as soon as you pull out of the draft the Clio just doesn't have the oomph to make it past and will usually just get a side by side before the NSX takes it's place back

Saying all that though!... the battles can be great between these 2 cars if each drivers have respect and know where and when to try and push your advantage
I'm nipping in for a quick hour before work as it really was cool as hell and look forward to trying to put one up on Honda's finest!

Cya's in there guys.

Good for you, Ron!
It's great to hear you're back on track. 👍

Cheers Jerry, Good to see you back in also bud 👍 I can't wait to hook up with you again and see if we can replicate some of the old battles Thanks matey

 

[TN2004S4]

I completely agree on both of the points that you are making. It's not possible to pass on the NSX on the straight with the Clio and it is very hard to pass the NSX through the esses due to the size of that car. On the other hand, if the NSX driver makes a mistake in the esseses (and you guys rarely do as I've noticed ) the right driver in the Clio can pass if he has the skills to do so cleanly. It is those moments that I live for in GT5P. I'm not remotely close to being the fastest nor am I the slowest. Some of us just want the opportunity to race against some of you guys and that opportunity rarely occurs under other racing schedule. For those who does block with the slower car on the straight (ie the Clios, RX8, Elise, etc..), they really should not be on the same track. But that's too perfect of a world. I just thought that you guys would tolerate or give the guys who does have common sense and courtesy to recognize the NSX top end power and let us "lurkers" participate. It can be a perfect world somewhat in my opinion...

 

[Enigma]

EDIT2: And on the subject of other cars, when a Clio or a RX8 is driven as superbly and respectfully as Ron and JP can drive them, I welcome them on this grid 👍

All the best
Maz

But why cant they just bring the right car like everyone else?

Rudi Raser mentioned z06fun using the clutch and the thread title was changed immediately in the name of fair racing

I mention people turning up in the wrong car and not only are you not bothered but you are actually encouraging it

If this is how you feel why bother even creating a one make event ?

I just wish everyone has the same vision as you Maz with people that can actually use other cars to be competitive. I personally use the clio, in order to be competitive with you any of you that's on the NSX schedule. I'm simply too slow with the NSX, but am decently quick with the Clio.

Im sorry but its not a valid reason to just say Im not fast enough in the NSX so I will just use a different car. If everyone done that then one make events would not be possible.

Just for the record I am nearly 2 seconds a lap slower than the fastest guys I know what its like to eat dust so I am not trying to be elitist

 

[GTP_CICO]

I was wondering if the Acura is capable of the same performance as the Honda? I have only seen one driver so far using it and he was equally fast to the Honda.
Has anybody else tried it?

 

[TN2004S4]

But why cant they just bring the right car like everyone else?

Rudi Raser mentioned z06fun using the clutch and the thread title was changed immediately in the name of fair racing

I mention people turning up in the wrong car and not only are you not bothered but you are actually encouraging it

If this is how you feel why bother even creating a one make event ?




Im sorry but its not a valid reason to just say Im not fast enough in the NSX so I will just use a different car. If everyone done that then one make events would not be possible.

Just for the record I am nearly 2 seconds a lap slower than the fastest guys I know what its like to eat dust so I am not trying to be elitist

I just really wanted to race with a higher level of competition that runs consistently clean and courteous. I can't find that on another race schedule. If it really bothers you that much that someone else is not in the NSX, than I will not interfere unless I'm in the NSX. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE WIN. I just wanted to have a tight pack of good and close racing. I'm nowhere near the skillz of these guys. I'm sure that when they do use the Clio they would leave me in the dust like they do in the NSX. Just by participating with some of the guys that are running on this schedule I can improve my skills and my lines. That is really my purpose. If using just the Clio is frowned upon or offends any of you, than I will no longer interfere. I'm sorry for even raising the issue. WOW!

 

[Enigma]

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I just really wanted to race with a higher level of competition that runs consistently clean and courteous. I can't find that on another race schedule. If it really bothers you that much that someone else is not in the NSX, than I will not interfere unless I'm in the NSX. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE WIN. I just wanted to have a tight pack of good and close racing. I'm nowhere near the skillz of these guys. I'm sure that when they do use the Clio they would leave me in the dust like they do in the NSX. Just by participating with some of the guys that are running on this schedule I can improve my skills and my lines. That is really my purpose. If using just the Clio is frowned upon or offends any of you, than I will no longer interfere. I'm sorry for even raising the issue. WOW!

Like I said there is a lot of people out there that are much faster than me sometimes if Im lucky I can stay in their slip stream if not I get left for dust doesnt mean I go to my garage and get another car that is not meant for the event

 

[arora]

The Acura is slower, but it's an easier drive.

 

[Synwraith]

But why cant they just bring the right car like everyone else?

Rudi Raser mentioned z06fun using the clutch and the thread title was changed immediately in the name of fair racing

I mention people turning up in the wrong car and not only are you not bothered but you are actually encouraging it

If this is how you feel why bother even creating a one make event ?

Z06fun using the clutch is not the same as a few respected members joining in other cars and just racing around us without interfering. Rudi mentioned the clutch use because that is against the spirit of the competition, it's a win-at-all-costs measure.

Have you actually had any grief from Chunkee or Kingpin? I was not encouraging every Tom, Dick and Mustafa to bring a Clio to the party, I was just saying that people who are THAT skilled, Division 1 drivers who can race against us and never interfere or hit or block or anything, you think they should be turned away? I'm never going to tell friends like JP and Ron to get lost and run their own event, sure I'd prefer they use the NSX (on an even footing without clutch) but if not, so be it.

Also, every QUALITY member like Ron or Chunkee who joins our grid, that's one less space for degenerates like Oskar435, Feutz5, Egli-Racing-Team, Siegmund40 and their ilk.

Im sorry but its not a valid reason to just say Im not fast enough in the NSX so I will just use a different car. If everyone done that then one make events would not be possible.

Just for the record I am nearly 2 seconds a lap slower than the fastest guys I know what its like to eat dust so I am not trying to be elitist

If you are apparently 2 seconds off the pace, then why are you bothering? Why bother being in a race with faster guys? Why haven't you started an event for NSX drivers who are a little bit off the pace?

Maybe it's because there is something for you to gain driving against faster drivers? Maybe it's because it's exciting to be a part of an event with drivers of the quality of Timppaq, Hyperspeed, KOR, Mr P, Chunkee, Spyrrari, CarlPKY, Zabeu and co?

Please keep in mind, some of the drivers are Sixaxis users and I couldn't drive the NSX for toffee with a Sixaxis.

You have made some valid points Enigma, and tonight having been harrassed by a few non GTP Clios I can totally see wher you are coming from, but I think seeing it from the opposite point of view will do you no harm at all.

I am genuinely sorry if this post of mine comes across as hostile, it is not meant that way. I have been trying to edit it but I have to be up at 5am and really need to get to bed 👍

It's been great racing you Enigma, please stick around 👍

All the best
Maz

 

[Mr P]

I feel I have the right to race what I like, when I like and where I choose and as long as I'm staying within the PP limit and not punting people off track I don't see any problem

Most of my long time racing mates are racing this event and as expected most are using the NSX! the few who don't like it drive something else! Rather than staying away completely due to disliking the suggested car is it not better to join anyway and try to stay clean and enjoy the racing no matter what the car? I mean as long as it's competitive and the races are bumper to bumper whilst still using some manners... what's wrong with that?

The cars balance out pretty well over a full lap so I plan on going back tomorrow for some more of the same

 

[billyjoebobx]

I just want to say I've really enjoyed the racing in this event. I find full grids of fast clean racers most times. I want to add my 2 cents to the discussion by saying I genuinely enjoy the challenge of dealing with traffic. In real life racing, even racers with similar skills and cars often are at a different pace from one another due to tire wear, fuel load, strategies, etc, and so must adapt their lines and pace. In qualifying or Time Trial, one can drive at 100+%, but racing should be at 90-95% pace, to allow room to adapt. While I like it when a train of 5+ fast NSX's tear around the track within inches of each other lap after lap, I also enjoy figuring out how to deal with different drivers and cars. Even punters or sloppy racers can provide a good challenge. I like to practice quickly recovering from an incident, so that a punt, or mistake, becomes merely a brief off and back on. I'm not in it for the win necessarily, this is just a fun way to develop my racing skills. I hope to see more of y'all out on track soon. 👍

 

[Driver321GO]

could someone explain how does the starting grid happens? i´m starting 80% at the last 3 starting grids?! Its a little bit frustrating....

 

[Enigma]

Have you actually had any grief from Chunkee or Kingpin? I was not encouraging every Tom, Dick and Mustafa to bring a Clio to the party, I was just saying that people who are THAT skilled, Division 1 drivers who can race against us and never interfere or hit or block or anything, you think they should be turned away? I'm never going to tell friends like JP and Ron to get lost and run their own event, sure I'd prefer they use the NSX (on an even footing without clutch) but if not, so be it.

No I have not had any grief from Chunkee or Kingpin and I wouldnt expect any like you say they are quality racers 👍

I never asked you to turn your friends away or tell them to get lost as you put it but have you asked them if they would be kind enough to use the right car for the event? Is it really that much to ask of someone?

If you are apparently 2 seconds off the pace, then why are you bothering? Why bother being in a race with faster guys? Why haven't you started an event for NSX drivers who are a little bit off the pace?

Maybe it's because there is something for you to gain driving against faster drivers? Maybe it's because it's exciting to be a part of an event with drivers of the quality of Timppaq, Hyperspeed, KOR, Mr P, Chunkee, Spyrrari, CarlPKY, Zabeu and co?

Im not quite sure where you're coming from on this one maybe I didnt get my point across very well that I was trying to make to Solarr.

All the guys you mention here are very fast and if it wasnt for slipsteam I wouldnt be able to keep up with any of them, even with slipstream its a struggle to be honest but there have been many other people competing in this event with different skill levels/pace not just the people you mentioned

Thats what I was trying to say to solarr, chances are there will be someone on track that will have a similar pace to him that he can have a good race with just like there will be someone I can race against and so on and so forth up to the level of the guys you mentioned.

I feel I have the right to race what I like, when I like and where I choose and as long as I'm staying within the PP limit and not punting people off track I don't see any problem

But this is an NSX only event what makes you exempt from that ?



If you guys feel that strongly about this then fair enough Im not going to argue anymore but what I will say is that we would be as well sticking to racing on the normal schedule and using any car and forgetting about single make events.

I would also like to say it has been a pleasure racing with everyone in this event thanks to everyone for the great races 👍

 

[arora]

But this is an NSX only event what makes you exempt from that ?

I could very well be wrong but didn't I just see you on this grid in a clio?

Anyway, having some very nice races with hellrazor, techyon, dop, kingpin and many others atm. Good stuff 👍

 

[Enigma]

I could very well be wrong but didn't I just see you on this grid in a clio?

Anyway, having some very nice races with hellrazor, techyon, dop, kingpin and many others atm. Good stuff 👍

No I was in a white NSX

 

[arora]

My apoligies then, oops

One thing to remember is while you might not be able to find the front pack you still can have some very nice battles and fun racing

 

[Enigma]

My apoligies then, oops

One thing to remember is while you might not be able to find the front pack you still can have some very nice battles and fun racing

Thanks theres someone for everyone to race 👍

I didnt see you in the race are you GTP_arora?

 

[Chunkee_Monkey]

I joined this event as i do still dislike the NSX, havent got the patience to practice and elsewhere well the quality/standard of driving was a little poor. Here i knew i could have a decent race and too be honest i quite enjoyed starting from the back on most occasions then trying to work my way through the grid. Its not often you get to race with Quality guys like those mentioned in an inferior car so have to be on the limit all the time as well as show the courtsy required not to punt these guys off. All i was looking for was a good race, to be able to push myself, to learn and like Maz says another GTP'er in a race albeit in a different car means one less numpty causing hassle (unless your connection goes tits up, which mine did, Thanks Maz, not a video of a great race with me...no...me warping all over the shop...👍) Anyhow i suppose people have been roasted in the past for using wrong car and obviously theres still people annoyed when it happens no matter who it is, so like i said I'll stay away and keep my eyes open for my friends racing at a different time slot.

Have Fun

 

[no name79]

But why cant they just bring the right car like everyone else?

Rudi Raser mentioned z06fun using the clutch and the thread title was changed immediately in the name of fair racing

I mention people turning up in the wrong car and not only are you not bothered but you are actually encouraging it

If this is how you feel why bother even creating a one make event ?




Im sorry but its not a valid reason to just say Im not fast enough in the NSX so I will just use a different car. If everyone done that then one make events would not be possible.

Just for the record I am nearly 2 seconds a lap slower than the fastest guys I know what its like to eat dust so I am not trying to be elitist

agree whit enigma just because this is a nsx event, what are you doing in a different car on race track..? NSX EVENT do ay need a bigger title.. THIS IS NSX EVENT, once more, what are you doing in a diferent car on race track..

 

[Mr P]

Not bothered in the slightest you guys can continue moaning and I'll keep racing in the Clio regardless

Cya out there 👍

 

[Duke of Pendle]

For the record, I don't have a problem with anyone bringing a different car to this event. A grid full of quality, fair racers is top of my wishlist 👍

 

[spyrrari]

Strange isn't it that these kind of discussions often happen after a while...

Maybe some of you should see it in an other perspective...:

Yes- this thread is about an one make race and therefore call's the attention to anyone who whants to participate in it...

Yes- this askes for that person to race in the car asked...

Yes- most racers will enter at the specific time to race the others with that car to see who is man enough...loooool...

No- this does sertainly not exclude any member from this site to have some quality racing with his friends at that particular time in whatever car he feels to drive ...

No- a big NO is if this member feels to do so,he interfeers with the racing of what this thread is all about...he should not get in between the racing of 2 or more NSX drivers who are battling hard and spoil there race with (for example)a clio...

Yes- for most members here,and i am certainly one of them,i always prefer a good/hard/clean/fair fight on the track in what car ever ,than a half full grid of NSX's with some punters or seeing that most of the other drivers are seconds a lap slower and you drive in front all by your self...i rather have a good battle midfield with 2 or more guys than winn by 10 seconds or so...👍👍👍

You may call me a big mouth for saying this,but i race online for the thrill...not for who's driving what car and who is the eventuall winner....👍 x 10000


Sorry,my 2 cents late at night mates...

Enjoy the races,and the company of fellow members with respect!!!




spy.

 

[scottjua]

Who's racing right now? I've had five awesome races in a row. I've been lucky enough to win the last few but I know I keep totally having huge offs and I will not recover enough next time. This is fun though.

 

[Synwraith]

I mean as long as it's competitive and the races are bumper to bumper whilst still using some manners... what's wrong with that?

I just want to say I've really enjoyed the racing in this event. I find full grids of fast clean racers most times. I want to add my 2 cents to the discussion by saying I genuinely enjoy the challenge of dealing with traffic.

No I have not had any grief from Chunkee or Kingpin and I wouldnt expect any like you say they are quality racers 👍

I would also like to say it has been a pleasure racing with everyone in this event thanks to everyone for the great races 👍

Anyway, having some very nice races with hellrazor, techyon, dop, kingpin and many others atm. Good stuff 👍

One thing to remember is while you might not be able to find the front pack you still can have some very nice battles and fun racing

For the record, I don't have a problem with anyone bringing a different car to this event. A grid full of quality, fair racers is top of my wishlist 👍

You may call me a big mouth for saying this,but i race online for the thrill...not for who's driving what car and who is the eventuall winner....👍 x 10000

Enjoy the races,and the company of fellow members with respect!!!

I think that says it all really, on with the racing 👍

All the best
Maz

 

[Flagmo-T]

I need some clearing on 2 matters, please help )

1. Bug " what is this bug doing or not doing ?

2. cheats " How are you able to cheat, using the clutch maybe ?

I only ask to help my Team M8, to understand why he is slower in this particular Online Race, and quicker when driving the Timetrail/free run

I'm not into cheating or using the so called Bug in any way.. just trying to understand .

I'm The --->Team Manager of Team_MoFF.
Too clear any misunderstanding of my post!! )
A Pm Is fine by me! thanks in advance fellow pilotes )