[FGTA][ENDURANCE][GT300]Season2-FINALE: OZWHEELS IS THE CHAMPION!Open
- Thread starter azidahaka
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- ozwheels3
First I haven't been arguing with you or anybody, at least I haven't tried to argue. It's just a discussion. In my opinion the regs are currently driver based and I'm saying we should make them car based. What I mean is that the regs are based on what lap times the driver of their car can do instead of being based on what the cars absolute fastest lap time is. Yes I understand that currently drivers of the rx-7 are not doing the lap times that I posted. What if the rx-7 drivers find that extra time that they don't have now?
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- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
That's what they are hoping for. It's only the guys that weren't near the front arguing the point. As you can see, Skeng isn't that worried about it, and is willing to do further testing. Hmm. Wonder why he is willing to do further testing? I don't think I can put my finger on it, it's just eluding me entirely.
I don't understand how we are going to see if a car is dominant when there is only one dominant driver (just assuming from other posts in the thread) in one. With Hp penalties in place, it makes it impossible to see what "car" is dominant with any accuracy. Race results don't prove anything unless your in PURE. Where they sometimes have a whole division 1 lobby within less than a second of each other in qualifying.
I'm giving up though. I'll see how the races go. If they go like I think they will I will be forced to give up entirely. And I'm not talking about race results..
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- T-n-T-2000
You of all people complain about other cars in other serieses that aren't regged properly. One of the reasons you quit both our serieses that you were in. You are driving the RX7, of course you want the discussion stopped. If you were in one of the other cars, you would complain instead of asking question.
None of us were complaining about the RX7, I asked a question. Oz provided proof. Its called questions and concerns about a specific car. Get it right okay.
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- T-n-T-2000
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- priesty_lfc
People airnt willing to do further testing as we all ran testing before S1 then ran S1 then ran more running to gind a comfortable car for S2 and all felt happy with the regs.
As for a post earlier I didn't realise only the 'great' drivers get to set regs for the series as normal drivers scew the results. So obviously S1 was unfair.
For the record I'm not worried about it either but it feels like you are determined to lower the RX7 regardless of all the running we've done, and it's pathetic that you would quit a series because you don't think you can win a race when it's already been proving other cars win in this series.
Can you also explain 'I'm giving up though. I'll see how the races go. If they go like I think they will I will be forced to give up entirely. And I'm not talking about race results'
What are you expecting to happen?
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- priesty_lfc
Of course we do and no not all drivers have changed (assume your main concern is Sken in the Mazda)
That doesn't mean the data from that is irrelevant tho.
I'm out of this conversation now as it's going on and on, if your points are proven then Karsten is free to change if he feels he needs to and I'll stay regardless.
That doesn't mean the data from that is irrelevant tho.
I'm out of this conversation now as it's going on and on, if your points are proven then Karsten is free to change if he feels he needs to and I'll stay regardless.
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- Fianked
Why is that what were waiting for? Nobody gained that extra second last season, not even the season winner.
You of all people complain about other cars in other serieses that aren't regged properly. One of the reasons you quit both our serieses that you were in. You are driving the RX7, of course you want the discussion stopped. If you were in one of the other cars, you would complain instead of asking question.
None of us were complaining about the RX7, I asked a question. Oz provided proof. Its called questions and concerns about a specific car. Get it right okay.
Read back through the threads, I left the first series because I moved house. The second series had nothing to do with regs, 3 or 4 people left and it was down to the fact the series was run Terribly, an absolute joke infact. Get you info right before you speak rubbish about me.
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- skengdigi
Sorry to sidetrack again
Well I havent tried to match your rx7 times yet but as I said before you are usually faster than me with 1 lap pace , its hard to really compare us in the AUTOBACS series because of the weight difference we have now but when we ran the Grand Valley Race season opener you were close to 1 second faster than me with the proposed spec GTR (you got pole by over 5 tenths) with no ballast , while I still won the race with the proposed spec HSV with no ballast.
You analysed that scenario and discussed it in that thread and you discovered the cars had different speeds on the glitched tires after pit stops . Personally I felt that they disadvantaged the HSV that I was driving but thats how some series are you have to race what the regs are and live with it , ofcourse I would complain and propose my changes but I have never quit a series mid series because I dont like the regs or feel I am driving a slower car.
This is racing and If I can win in a slower car that makes me feel like a better driver and I usually enjoy the challenge but that's just me .
This is my personal opinion , you are very fast on a hot lap or if your alone on the track but in terms of driving/racing strategy you still have more to learn that is why your 1 lap pace usually doesn't mean a guaranteed race win.
I will still do my tests and let you know what I find , I will be testing all of the car except the Subaru , I might do the Subaru but I doubt it .
I agree that the rx7 is the best car but I cannot agree yet that it needs a 15 hp cut , that I will get back into after I do my own tests.
I will give a 100% honest opinion and feedback because I am not fussed If the RX7 does get a power cut , there is always some way to make an advantage out of being penalized and I am sure I will find a way as I always do.
Giving away my race 1 secret now to everyone - during some small Fuji testing LOGIC suggested I try medium on the rear instead of softs and I didnt think it would help but it gave me about 5 tenths . This could just be the different balance it created or my driving style , i have no idea but I know after a very small test (dont have much time to do a big test) of 3 laps on soft soft and 3 laps on soft medium , I knew soft medium would of been better for me over a race distance and that is what I chose and I won that Fuji race.
Could of just been a Fuji one off or not only time will tell.
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- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
This is one of those baffling posts..
Skeng is doing further testing.
Slower driver don't show what the cars can do, that's why those results aren't worth much.
We are determined to make it equal. That RX7 is WAY to fast. Skeng doesn't even have to run the car at 100% and if I lose his draft there is no catching him. Because of the CAR. Slower cars win races sure. What does that have to do with the equality of the cars?
Do you have any idea how much a half a second is, or a second is over a 40 lap race? That's time that we can't make up no Matter what. Even with the Hp penalty the RX7 is so fast it's still going to run competitive times. Do you know what the BRZ is going to run with a 20hp cut? Even if I finish 1st next race, and 2nd the next. I'm going to see how ridiculous is is trying to keep up. It's no fun pushing a car to its limit and watching the split times get larger and larger, knowing that if you were just in the same car. Those split times would be getting larger, but with you in the lead.
Most of this was explained already. Baffling.... I'm on a phone browser each of my short paragraphs is an answer to yours. It's a pain to multiquote one post on this thing.
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It's not on me or any other rx7driver, the cars were reg'd and no problems were found after a whole season without hp penalties.
I practice very little and still match or better your testing times with your car. How often do you practice? Maybe you should do a bit more.
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- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
You put a lot of weight on a few laps ran at a track I'm not that good at. I haven't seen you match my Silverstone times yet? My BRZ lap was 3 tenths faster than Oz's original BRZ lap, and it seems to be general knowledge that he is faster than all of you. You aren't faster than me. Your posts are riddled with 
sentences. And that's why I'm coming off as rude. Conversations with you move backwards. Quite annoying to deal with honestly. I state facts. A large majority of your posts barely even follow the subject.
sentences. And that's why I'm coming off as rude. Conversations with you move backwards. Quite annoying to deal with honestly. I state facts. A large majority of your posts barely even follow the subject.
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- karsten_beoulve
It just seems the main problem is two drivers didn't get the results they expected.
They both stated in a way or another that they are fast and the others are slow; all those that run tests, all that raced in season1, all that race in season2 beside skeng ( that is a bit slower than them).
Now maybe it's just me but i never be so impolite and unfair to bluntly state a driver is SLOW. It's offensive, and slow compared to who? The winner? Most drivers on gtp? Yourself? And in what conditions? Sun, night, rain? With what cars? Ff, fr, awd? Stock? Race? Lmp? And what tires? Comfort, sport, rain?
I said i'll look into the matter, and i'm tired to say it again and again. If you guys are so much faster you can win in brz or garaiya, or impreza too.
Lexus won lots of races in season 1. Why you took brz? Lexus was available. Maybe because it's almost impossible to spin it compared to lexus? Or because it has better lateral grip? Better tire management?
Or maybe you tested too little and realized it now?
@SkengD you shouldn't have opened up your finding to justify a fast lap ina track that is advantageous to rx7.
They both stated in a way or another that they are fast and the others are slow; all those that run tests, all that raced in season1, all that race in season2 beside skeng ( that is a bit slower than them).
Now maybe it's just me but i never be so impolite and unfair to bluntly state a driver is SLOW. It's offensive, and slow compared to who? The winner? Most drivers on gtp? Yourself? And in what conditions? Sun, night, rain? With what cars? Ff, fr, awd? Stock? Race? Lmp? And what tires? Comfort, sport, rain?
I said i'll look into the matter, and i'm tired to say it again and again. If you guys are so much faster you can win in brz or garaiya, or impreza too.
Lexus won lots of races in season 1. Why you took brz? Lexus was available. Maybe because it's almost impossible to spin it compared to lexus? Or because it has better lateral grip? Better tire management?
Or maybe you tested too little and realized it now?
@SkengD you shouldn't have opened up your finding to justify a fast lap ina track that is advantageous to rx7.
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- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
Well I'm sure your not referring to me. With most of that anyway. Also I'm just replying to inaccurate posts. I realize we are waiting a few races.
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You put a lot of weight on a few laps ran at a track I'm not that good at. I haven't seen you match my Silverstone times yet? My BRZ lap was 3 tenths faster than Oz's original BRZ lap, and it seems to be general knowledge that he is faster than all of you. You aren't faster than me. Your posts are riddled with
Another pearler that post is.
Where's your multi track testing results anyway?
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FGTA ANNOUNCEMENT
The FGTA are now stepping in to resolve this issue, I now have 3 drivers/FGTA testers testing the car's over the next few day's over multiple tracks, the data from this will be shared and between us and @azidahaka we will make a decision.
Until this has been completed we ask that the subject is dropped from the thread by ALL drivers and that you all have some patience while we complete our test.
Once our decision is made it WILL BE FINAL.
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Does anyone want to run some full stint practice races?
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- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
Not a full race. Just one stint.
Practice room up. 1472-6118-3615-5259-6537
Practice room up. 1472-6118-3615-5259-6537
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Reading last few pages kinda takes the fun out of it. You guys realize we are playing a videogame in order to have fun, right?
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- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
Practice room closed. Can't sign in to PSN. Anyone else having issues?
