FIA Events '18 - World Finals Monaco Finished! Congrats to Team Lexus and Igor Fraga for Brazil!

[Wardez]

I didn't look at leaderboards only. The UK + Germany alone have more players than the USA, Brazil, Chile and a few others all together. But only 3 British and 3 German players qualified for the Nations Cup regional finals. Saying it's just as competitive to qualify in the Americas as in some European countries doesn't make sense.

And I think people in Europe like to race just as much as everyone else. In fact, to qualify for the regionals everyone had to race, even those guys who finished in 4th in the UK, Germany, France, etc.

Not gonna fight over this. It's a simple question of numbers. The EMEA region has less spots available per total amount of players than the Americas and Asia.

As you said, the game is more popular in Europe. That makes it more competitive. Its doesn't mean the fastest of the fastest are European. My personal bet for the world's is Igor, from Brazil.

Spoiler: players by country

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Poor choice of words from me. I wasn't trying to address the data you're talking about, it's undeniable. What I should have said was most people have an overall impression that the Americas Region is slower.

 

[Sander 001]

World Finals Preview Podcast!


World Final Streams & Info
Location: Some Fancy Place, Monaco - November 16-18​

Day Zero Qualifying Results (determining the grid order for all Nations' Cup races and car picking order, Red Bull x2014 @ Circuit De La Sarthe):
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ld-finals-monaco.381719/page-57#post-12542067

Overview:
https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/world_final2018/day1/#structure

Nations' Cup Semi-Finals:
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oiJbRmcQcw

Manufacturers' Final:
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnu04wVDQ80

Nations' Cup Final:
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIEEAtuJxVs​

Regionals

Americas Streams & Info
Location: Las Vegas, USA - October 31 - SEMA Convention
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GT Website Americas Regionals Overview:​

https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/americas_final2018/

Finals:
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32bU8GSLvwI

EMEA Streams & Info
Location: Madrid Spain - October 19-20 - Madrid Games Week​

World Finalist Selection Match:
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBDBZ6j-sOM


Tidgney regionals race report vlog:
h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzlfNWpqJ04

& write up:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...-baby-october-31.381719/page-37#post-12516192

Asia/Oceania Streams
Location: Tokyo, Japan - October 6-7 - Tokyo Motor Fes 2018​

Countdown live links for the English broadcast of the Asia/Oceania regional finals -
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World Finalist Selection Match:

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDq3k2vW7nk

Nations Cup Regional Final

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJhHIaIm2M

Manufacturers Exhibition Battle

h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCDa-l2_LFQ​

Thanks @Auditore

World Tour 2018 -

Spoiler

World Tour Salzburg, Austria Stream:

Made this thread in order to specifically discuss FIA Finals and World Tour details and speculation.

The thread title is updated but the OP wasn't and I don't see any qualifying stuff. Mega threads always have these defects

 

[zzz_pt]

Poor choice of words from me. I wasn't trying to address the data you're talking about, it's undeniable. What I should have said was most people have an overall impression that the Americas Region is slower.

Oh, Ok. I don't think they're slower. That's a stupid argument imo. The % of aliens, very fast drivers, average drivers, slow drivers and dirty drivers is probably very similar in all 3 regions.

Competitevness will be higher in the EMEA region simply because there's more people. More aliens, more fast drivers, more average drivers, more slower drivers and more dirty drivers. But because the number of spots in the regional finals is 30 regardless of total amount of players per region/country, the competitevness in Europe will be higher, especially in countries like the UK, Germany, France, Spain and Italy.

 

[perrolocomcquee]

Just to clarify, this qualifier was so slipstream reliant it was actually laughable

Yeah, if you follow someone you’ll be loosing half a second every sector.
Doing a Qualify on your own was by far the best.

 

[JayOTT]

Slipstream Weak

What the hell PD? Just when I think you're finally getting serious about giving the players a good fair race, you inject some spectacle BS right back into it. It's a farce when Logitech's small scale competition knows how to run a fair and balanced race better than you. And gtfo here with that Tokyo South!

Me right now;

 

[LLOYDZELITE69]

Yeah, if you follow someone you’ll be loosing half a second every sector.
Doing a Qualify on your own was by far the best.

This is right. You would just bang off the rev limiter when you’re drafting behind someone and in the back section of the track the draft understeer was horrific. The best choice was to just be alone during Qually.

 

[mclarenLB]

Yeah, if you follow someone you’ll be loosing half a second every sector.
Doing a Qualify on your own was by far the best.

This is right. You would just bang off the rev limiter when you’re drafting behind someone and in the back section of the track the draft understeer was horrific. The best choice was to just be alone during Qually.

Ah fair enough guys, I walked in part way through qually and saw some people trying it, seemed like it was huge looking at the gap in lap times

 

[Krypton78]

hard to read all the names due to low pic quality, so

01. Igor Frag / IOF_RACING17
02. Shogo Yoshida / gilles_honda_v12
03. Adriano Carrazza / CRT-Didico15
04. Fabián Portilla / FT_Mcqueen91
05. Jeffrey Gallan / FT_LLOYDZELITE
06. Ryota Kokubun / Akagi_1942mi
07. Nicolás Rubilar / FT_NicoR
08. Adam Suswillo / GTP_Aderrrm
09. Tomoaki Yamanaka / yamado_racing38
10. Mikail Hizal / TRL_LIGHTNING
11. Cody Nikola Latkovski / Nik_Makozi
12. Coque López / Williams_Coque14
13. Jacob Goertz / JGOERTZ5
14. Yat Lam Law / NegiFISH_NaF
15. Kai Hin Jonathan Wong / saika159-
16. Andrew Brooks / Deafsun96
17. Patrik Blazsán / TRL_Fuvaros
18. Giorgio Mangano / Giorgio_57
19. Carlos Salazar / pcm_stj
20. Daniel Holland / TRL_holl01
21. Florent Pagandet / Jomas_74
22. Martin Grady / GTA_Tidgney
23. Nickolas Lee McMillen / GumballCGT
24. Joseph De Jesus / Bass_71CKL
25. Yuki Shirakawa / yukiku
26. Pierre Lenoir / RC_Snake91
27. Anthony Duval / RC_Atho
28. Andrew McCabe / TRL_doodle
29. Jay Szkoruda / Z28
30. Adam Wilk / Adam_2167


personal opinion, considering the importance, only 2 hot-laps? Joke.

 

[HellzFire]

So, Manufacturer has had a rule change

x2 Fuel Consumption (just under 4 laps)
3 litre refuel speed
Virtual Safety Car ENABLED and Zero Ghosting (oh god)
Slipstream Weak

That Fuel change is HUGE for us, Welcome back the fuelsaving god everyone, the Corvette

Virtual safety car? What?

 

[O604]

Virtual safety car? What?

I looked this up earlier. Not sure if this is what is is though.

 

[HellzFire]

I know what VSC is, I was shocked about having the feature in GTS.

 

[Loverson]

2 hotlaps is awful.
When i partecipated in the E-Cup at Milan Games Week, there was a qualifier where you could join the finals in a Sunday. ANYBODY could give a try so the numbers of people was insane.
And how many hotlaps you could do? 3 laps against hundreds of people.

2 hotlaps with fewer people (amazing drivers) and a very important event feels silly to me :\

 

[ScottPuss20]

I think this is the thread to ask.
So, except the F50 which is definitely not in the game, do we have Tokyo Expressway South Inner Loop??View attachment 780176
My game is currently updating so I can't check..

That's the new track? You gotta be kidding me.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Something like a Moto GP style qualifying where a drivers top free practice time sets up the field for a superpole Q. with the top 10 drivers going to superpole, then the remaining drivers would run in a 15 minute last chance qualifier with the top two advancing to superpole and the rest of the drivers top fastest time setting grid position from 13th back.

Then the top 12 would run a 15 minute superpole with the top 12 grid positions determined by this qualifier.

I agree two lap qualifier that affects so much going forward for the entire race weekend is a joke.

It seems like that PD would have put a whole lot more planning and effort into the actual qualifying and racing for an event that they are billing on the game page to be an event that determines the best of the best.

 

[Krypton78]

Of course everybody there is fast, but can't imagine Doodle in the low end or Fuvaros and Gorgio in second half reflects their quality.

I don't understand their mentality really. Keeping the luck- factor still that high.

2-hotlap qualifying determinating the car choice and starting position of all races in Nations. If they don't want to apply 100% driving-skill based competition, why are they not letting the people gamble, or arm- wrestle, or far- spitting?

They would have spared time and money

 

[TRC_Stagger]

Rooting for the Americas to bring it home.

Let’s go boys!

McCabe and McMillen will only get faster throughout the races.

 

[SDSPOWER01]

That's the new track? You gotta be kidding me.

Gotta admit we got fairly decent real world location dlc's since August to November... so It would not hurt to get a variation let alone a long 6km one..

 

[Matty28]

hard to read all the names due to low pic quality, so

01. Igor Frag / IOF_RACING17 / 75.000
02. Shogo Yoshida / gilles_honda_v12
03. Adriano Carrazza / CRT-Didico15
04. Fabián Portilla / FT_Mcqueen91
05. Jeffrey Gallan / FT_LLOYDZELITE
06. Ryota Kokubun / Akagi_1942mi
07. Nicolás Rubilar / FT_NicoR
08. Adam Suswillo / GTP_Aderrrm
09. Tomoaki Yamanaka / yamado_racing38
10. Mikail Hizal / TRL_LIGHTNING
11. Cody Nikola Latkovski / Nik_Makozi
12. Coque López / Williams_Coque14
13. Jacob Goertz / JGOERTZ5
14. Yat Lam Law / NegiFISH_NaF
15. Kai Hin Jonathan Wong / saika159-
16. Andrew Brooks / Deafsun96
17. Patrik Blazsán / TRL_Fuvaros
18. Giorgio Mangano / Giorgio_57
19. Carlos Salazar / pcm_stj
20. Daniel Holland / TRL_holl01
21. Florent Pagandet / Jomas_74
22. Martin Grady / GTA_Tidgney
23. Nickolas Lee McMillen / GumballCGT
24. Joseph De Jesus / Bass_71CKL
25. Yuki Shirakawa / yukiku
26. Pierre Lenoir / RC_Snake91
27. Anthony Duval / RC_Atho
28. Andrew McCabe / TRL_doodle
29. Jay Szkoruda / Z28
30. Adam Wilk / Adam_2167


personal opinion, considering the importance, only 2 hot-laps? Joke.

Kinda like the final season I'm looking down the back of the field and thinking "WHAT how is [insert alien] so far down?!?" and then realise it's because the talent here is crazy, and this is even more so because it's the whole world!

I think my money has got to go on Igor, his pace is insane and he just seems to deliver every time.

 

[JayOTT]

Allow me to play devils advocate here. Qualifying in both game and real life has never just been about who the fastest driver is. It's about who can handle the pressure and deliver when it matters most. In that regard, a session that allowed time to do two prime laps but no more (20 minutes allegedly) was fine. It injected natural drama into the championship as opposed to artificial BS. You can still argue that the Salzburg set-up of having no tyre wear, eliminating the need for out and in laps, would've been preferable, but conditions were the same for everyone and they were in control of their own destiny.

The same cannot be said for Sunday. A random drawing when two of the races feature questionable BoP (N500, Group 1) ruins everything. To quote what I told Tom last month; " I worry that PD is trying too hard to inject artificial drama into their races and isn't taking this E-Sports venture seriously at all."

Car lotteries and slipstream that isn't on the Real setting has no place in a serious E-Sports tournament designed to find out who is the best driver. The 16 drivers who make it to the final should thankfully be the 16 who deserve it most, but beyond that almost anyone could come through and win it if the lottery favours them enough. It will make things interesting, but for the wrong reasons.

PS: If one of the world finalists cares to answer, may I ask;
A: Whether or not they let you finish the lap you are on at the end of the 20 minute qualifying sessions, and
B: If the Manufacturers teams have to swap drivers between the initial qualifying session and the top six shootout.

 

[mclarenLB]

Allow me to play devils advocate here. Qualifying in both game and real life has never just been about who the fastest driver is. It's about who can handle the pressure and deliver when it matters most. In that regard, a session that allowed time to do two prime laps but no more (20 minutes allegedly) was fine. It injected natural drama into the championship as opposed to artificial BS. You can still argue that the Salzburg set-up of having no tyre wear, eliminating the need for out and in laps, would've been preferable, but conditions were the same for everyone and they were in control of their own destiny.

The same cannot be said for Sunday. A random drawing when two of the races feature questionable BoP (N500, Group 1) ruins everything. To quote what I told Tom last month; " I worry that PD is trying too hard to inject artificial drama into their races and isn't taking this E-Sports venture seriously at all."

Car lotteries and slipstream that isn't on the Real setting has no place in a serious E-Sports tournament designed to find out who is the best driver. The 16 drivers who make it to the final should thankfully be the 16 who deserve it most, but beyond that almost anyone could come through and win it if the lottery favours them enough. It will make things interesting, but for the wrong reasons.

PS: If one of the world finalists cares to answer, may I ask;
A: Whether or not they let you finish the lap you are on at the end of the 20 minute qualifying sessions, and
B: If the Manufacturers teams have to swap drivers between the initial qualifying session and the top six shootout.

A: Yes
B: No, you actually aren't allowed

 

[JayOTT]

By the way, Yamauchi tweeted the official starting grids. Groups were re-seeded after qualifying (1-4-5-8 etc in Group A, 2-3-6-7 etc in Group B).

But honestly unless there's some last minute changes to remove some of the randomness of Sunday, I'm more looking forward to the Manufacturers race now. I think the change to 2x fuel might actually help the BoP, as it clips Porsche's wings a bit whilst throwing Dodge a bone for their lack of power. There will be a lot of pressure on whoever qualifies for their team as it's effectively a one-shot (sighting lap, out lap, hot lap).

Strategy will be very interesting as, having experienced the live event tyre wear myself, I'm sure the Soft tyres can do 3 laps. They will fall off during that third lap though, so maybe teams run the 3 lap stint on Mediums. There may even be a case for making a three-stop, running only one lap on the Hards to get rid of them and two stints on the Softs.

Hopefully the competitors are yelling at PD to revert it to Real slipstream right now as that's the one thing we need to make this race as close to perfect as we're going to get.

 

[T_revisio]

Looking forward to watching it

Still questioning why nations races are not all in the same cars, as that is the only way to find the best driver and be sure that no element of car differences contributed to the end result of the competition.

 

[Tou2istTrophy]

Anyone else want to see the basic telemetry at the live events?

 

[Quakebass]

So have any of you finalists seen the new Tokyo layout, either in action or as an icon in the track selection?

 

[RZQSPEED]

@TRL LIGHTNING is on the same group as @saika159...

*Hizal steals the WRX from Wong!*

 

[ZokyCRO]

personal opinion, considering the importance, only 2 hot-laps? Joke.

Yap, considering this was probably done with fuel consumption as well you can easily say this was a 1 lap qualy shot, since the difference from 1st to 30th is 6secs just proves how silly this is. The same thing happened to us at regional in Madrid on St Croix, even worse then because other groups had 4-5 flying laps on their shorter tracks.

It will be much fun to watch though, this is more interesting for the viewer than for the competitors! XD

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Hmm, I think they need to add in a 'norm' time so we can see how much faster than us these guys are. The comparison would help emphasise how good these guys are.

If Polyphony need someone to do this then I am more than happy to offer my services. I just need flights, hotel, free food, free drink, £5000 spending money, and I'm there

 

[RZQSPEED]

NicoR lost @perrolocomcquee from his team, and now his own brother is leaving him!

 

[FitzyWATP]

Yap, considering this was probably done with fuel consumption as well you can easily say this was a 1 lap qualy shot, since the difference from 1st to 30th is 6secs just proves how silly this is. The same thing happened to us at regional in Madrid on St Croix, even worse then because other groups had 4-5 flying laps on their shorter tracks.

It will be much fun to watch though, this is more interesting for the viewer than for the competitors! XD

It's really weird.

Given the amount of money PD and their sponsors must have sunk into these championships why on earth would they not want to give the drivers every opportunity to perform at their best and improve the quality of their game's showcase?

'These are the tracks, these are the cars, these are the conditions so practise your rear ends off because we're going to show them to the world.'

 

[rono_thomas]

the quality of their game's showcase?

I think you’ve hit the virtual nail on the head there, they have a choice do we showcase the driving and esports event, or do we showcase many different pretty cars. IMO it should all be about the racing and driving but I feel that the game is taking precedence and the reason why PD’s events are not fair and equal racing as a priority. I think its a change in mentality and thought process that PD need to take to really launch its esports over its final hurdle.