Final Quick Match Races 2-7-18

outlaw4rc
Even with SRF, the only way I could see that being possible is someone cutting The Chase entirely.

A 2:03 lap is definitely possible, though, because I just did it. :D



Third lap was faster everywhere except Sector 3 by around two tenths.
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Congrats on getting the 03.:eek:

I'll have to watch your replay a few more times for your brake markers as I'm braking slightly later but I'm fighting for control a lot more. Likely due to waiting on the auto box changing down or up but you've given me some good pointers.👍

fordlaser
I thought I might try the Mid-Field race in my HSV Base Model '12, I am shocked to see players that can not drive and are all over the track and when you see players like that, that is not racing and that is why I will never try quick match races again.
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You have to go into quick match knowing you're going to meet all skill levels and see just how desperate a lower skilled driver will be to keep their position. They're easy to beat when you bait them into trying to defend against you. Righting off quick match due to other peoples bad driving is a bit extreme though. There's plenty of good drivers who'll give you an honest test.

As for brake checking, it's a bottom of the barrel tactic.

dogmarsss
Is it appropriate to compare these lists? :sly:
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No naming and shaming on this forum ( too much arguing) but that's not to say you can't drop a warning through a console PM.;)
 
fordlaser
I thought I might try the Mid-Field race in my HSV Base Model '12, I am shocked to see players that can not drive and are all over the track and when you see players like that, that is not racing and that is why I will never try quick match races again.
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That's the world of online racing when it's something other than an organized league. On the upside, the QR's are a place where you can test out some clean tactics that will aid in overtaking. It's also a good place to test reflexes if someone's weaving about or is crashing up ahead.

Now, there's times when you do find the occasional clean drivers. Had that happen at Bathurst today and given that I had the slow-in-the straights M3, it proved quite a challenge. Fun times, though!
kilesa4568
I'll have to watch your replay a few more times for your brake markers as I'm braking slightly later but I'm fighting for control a lot more. Likely due to waiting on the auto box changing down or up but you've given me some good pointers.👍
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I believe my braking points haven't really changed from the GT500 Bathurst QR except for The Chase (it's further ahead because of the lower top speed).

Auto box would be a hindrance. How you downshift and gear selection through corners can make a difference. For example, I've been sticking with 3rd for Murrays corner for quite a while but since I ran that 03 lap, I'm using 2nd a lot more. Less stable overall but it's allowing me to be a little more aggressive with the approach.
 
bone_tone
That's disappointing, as this is usually the best of the current QM rooms - the poorer drivers usually get fed up and drop out quite quickly.

I've only come across one brake tester/rammer too, since this event's been live.
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Same here bone_tone, it's my favorite of this batch of QM by far and I've met some really fun and fast players. IF you survive the first corner fiasco it's not too difficult to make a run for the front runners. Another approach is - if you've drawn a mid to rear of the pack start in full or near full house, just hang back, let the carniage happen, pick your way through the ghosted, off track and slower cars to find a bit of racing space then drive your rear off to close on the front group. I may be wrong but it almost seems as if there's a bit of weak boost to help close on the front group then watch carefully for the two or three who are banging, door slamming each other for the one who "almost always" gets the penalty,, WAH LAAH - there's your opening! As for the brake checking,, I've sort of earned how to anticipate a driver who's gonna do it and never drive directly behind him/her. Hang just off their quarter and stay back just a bit,, you'll see the tell tale whisp of tire smoke as they jam the E-brake - 7 of 10 times you can drive around and away from them. If I encounter a player consistently doing that and I can get in front of them it's the rule of "turn about is fair play" and I may return the favor unless I've got good momentum and just don't want to waste it. Like many, many of you who run the QM on a regular basis I've had to learn to leave emotion aside, don't let it get to me and do my best to ignore the few who try their best to screw with the QM and try for a podium finish. For the most part I find the majority of players try to run clean but since most drive with the bumper cam they just don't see another player approach - OR - there's a bit of lag and they don't realize they're causing issues. I use the outside, behind the car view which gives me a much better perspective for these QM. As we approach a turn, the other driver is in a good position to run "the line" I'll give it up and try a different line that may give me a better draft off the apex. Sometimes it works. The next BIG issue of running QM is getting rid of the credits!!! Selling cars just puts even more credits back in our bank so I choose to move way too many really GOOD, fully tunes hot rods into the stockyard.
 
Daduce1947
Same here bone_tone, it's my favorite of this batch of QM by far and I've met some really fun and fast players. IF you survive the first corner fiasco it's not too difficult to make a run for the front runners. Another approach is - if you've drawn a mid to rear of the pack start in full or near full house, just hang back, let the carniage happen, pick your way through the ghosted, off track and slower cars to find a bit of racing space then drive your rear off to close on the front group. I may be wrong but it almost seems as if there's a bit of weak boost to help close on the front group then watch carefully for the two or three who are banging, door slamming each other for the one who "almost always" gets the penalty,, WAH LAAH - there's your opening! As for the brake checking,, I've sort of earned how to anticipate a driver who's gonna do it and never drive directly behind him/her. Hang just off their quarter and stay back just a bit,, you'll see the tell tale whisp of tire smoke as they jam the E-brake - 7 of 10 times you can drive around and away from them. If I encounter a player consistently doing that and I can get in front of them it's the rule of "turn about is fair play" and I may return the favor unless I've got good momentum and just don't want to waste it. Like many, many of you who run the QM on a regular basis I've had to learn to leave emotion aside, don't let it get to me and do my best to ignore the few who try their best to screw with the QM and try for a podium finish. For the most part I find the majority of players try to run clean but since most drive with the bumper cam they just don't see another player approach - OR - there's a bit of lag and they don't realize they're causing issues. I use the outside, behind the car view which gives me a much better perspective for these QM. As we approach a turn, the other driver is in a good position to run "the line" I'll give it up and try a different line that may give me a better draft off the apex. Sometimes it works. The next BIG issue of running QM is getting rid of the credits!!! Selling cars just puts even more credits back in our bank so I choose to move way too many really GOOD, fully tunes hot rods into the stockyard.
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Good post - covers it all really!
 
Just curious. What's the best car at Midfield other than the HSV? I've been trying out a few cars over the last few days. Most of them I can only wring out 1:04s or 1:05s. However, I must have hit the right setup for the blue Calsonic GT-R because I pulled off a 1:03.4xx with it and the pace it has was good enough to beat everyone except for the one skilled HSV driver. A shame the power options aren't favorable because I could almost match the HSV through the corners. It simply lacks the power down the straights.
 
@coryclifford thanks for testing out, I have been busy with driving school, and life, but did test some cars.
And on your pace with the daytona, I'm around 1s, 1,3's back at my best, so kudos :cheers:.

I tested the Lister Storm, and oh my what a boat. the power was good, but i had to tinker alot with the set-up to try to reach a good turn in, and even so, its still either super boat, or finicky to control.

Ford Falcon XR8: pretty stableand power as a gt500. Pretty safe, but its just a pace holder. It won't give you an edge. need to run it with lower DF to not bog down on the straights

M3 GT2 base model '11: pretty fun and grippy. turns well and its preddictable, but as the xr8, its a pace holder.

Castrol Tom's Supra '97: one of my fav cars because urrh childhood, that had to be coupled with a low turbo for this.
goes fast, not hsv fast, controls fantastic, and i just have to short shift it to hell. pretty grippy, but dies down on the straights a bit.

GTR NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze: my favourite car from the GT3's, you can push as hard as you like, and the car normally is responsive and grippy. Has a great power band for a detuned no parts car, and keeps the pace well. no world beater, but you can snatch wins if you're not against an pretty fast driver.

Corvette Z06 (c2) race vroom '63: at 597PP, like the Daytona, this is the car for the straights, it just accels through the straights, and there's nothing others can do, except corner faster than you. They'll do it, and since this isn't an oval, unfortunatly never had much luck with the C2. You can't push it as you push the Daytona. have to mind more of the trhottle and steer input, but pretty rewarding car to finish well.

Next on the list for testing, is the:
350Z Concept Lm Race car;
Calsonic Skyline '00;
Camaro LM Race car;
Corvette C5-R '00;
Viper GTS-R '00
Camaro SS touring car '10
CLK Touring Car '00;
Opel Astra V8 Touring car '00:
M3 GTR Race Car '01


And guys, can you try the Z GT500 Base model '06? as the first car that I tried here, I noticed I normally accelarate more than the HSV's, and the care is super predictable and stable. would like to find out if it can run similiar times
 
outlaw4rc
What's the best car at Midfield other than the HSV?
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Fastest I've seen other than the HSV are the GT-Rs. I think I'll try the Stealth with an oil change. I notice more RX-7s showing up but they aren't all that fast down the straights. Not slow, but not fast.
 
I've found a set-up for the HSV that works better for me. Most of the set-up from @coryclifford - for which many thanks of course. - But instead I am going with the stage 3 turbo and reduce the power level.
It gives me much more high rev power. Doing on a good lap 1:03 flats. Haven' managed to get into the 1:02's. Just making sure I stay in the right gears.
Flat out in the chicane still not possible for me :-(
 
Pretty sure the peak power of the stage 3 motor tune with the fresh oil change was higher at 592hp than using the turbo. Short transmission to stay as close to the peak as possible. And!, as the oil wears off you'll get a higher HP for a bit. :D

To go flat out through the chicane one needs to aim for the curbs. Put your gear indicator right on them. Chances are you'll just miss the grass, or slightly hit it. And, trust the car will make it. Because it will.

Ran the Stealth GT-R GT500 for a bit. 1:03.1xx a few times. That's good because that's variety. Only problem is that I feel like everyone in a HSV thinks they're faster and smashes into me assuming the GT-R can't hang.

Sorry @Lilium, the Z GT500 can't hang. Down on power. I tried.
 
Had a few races with @coryclifford's HSV tune and very nice it is too. 👍 I miss the straight-line speed of the Daytona but it's so much faster in the corners. BLs around mid 1:03 but I still haven't plucked up the courage to go flat through the chicane yet.
I'm disappointed not to have come across any of you guys yet (I've been looking forward to experiencing cory's tailgating*) but I've met some good racers, and very few clowns.

* I'll probably 🤬 myself.
 
Lilium
And guys, can you try the Z GT500 Base model '06? as the first car that I tried here, I noticed I normally accelarate more than the HSV's, and the care is super predictable and stable. would like to find out if it can run similiar times
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The issue with the 06 Z is that tuning options either leaves you short on PP or so over that you end up with less HP overall after power reduction.

However, the 04 Motul Z can be tuned to 600 PP. Really nice handling but alas, too slow in the straights. I somehow won a few races in it with a weaker field.
coryclifford
Fastest I've seen other than the HSV are the GT-Rs. I think I'll try the Stealth with an oil change. I notice more RX-7s showing up but they aren't all that fast down the straights. Not slow, but not fast.
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You can tune the RX-7's power a number of different ways. It can keep up with an HSV down the straights, maybe even outrun it. I just can't get it to turn at all.

A bit of an aside but I also just got the Astra into the 2:03 club at Bathurst.
StirlingMoose
I'm disappointed not to have come across any of you guys yet (I've been looking forward to experiencing cory's tailgating*) but I've met some good racers, and very few clowns.
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Haven't run into anyone here, I think. If anything, I've been run into mercilessly lately.
 
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Hey everyone, I have been playing some Quick Races recently in the 600PP races at Midfield Raceway and I got a pretty good total time of 3:13.233 and a fast lap of 1:02.468, that could have been a high 1:02.3xx.. Could sound like an excuse, but the throttle pedal sometimes works without touching it while braking and that's what happened in the last turn of that lap, I guees it's time to clean it up lol. Maybe 1:01 is possible with a better setup, but seems hard to do it online.
I didn't use any helps, I just used the second lowest degree value for the wheel, that I think it is 460º.
Here's the tune that I used from TRL_Andromeda: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...p-fuji-speedway-f.327674/page-2#post-10689129

Here's the video of my run:
 
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Alexony
Hey everyone, I have been playing some Quick Races recently in the 600PP races at Midfield Raceway and I got a pretty good total time of 3:13.233 and a fast lap of 1:02.468, that could have been a high 1:02.3xx.. Could sound like an excuse, but the throttle pedal sometimes works without touching it while braking and that's what happened in the last turn of that lap, I guees it's time to clean it up lol. Maybe 1:01 is possible with a better setup, but seems hard to do it online.
I didn't use any helps, I just used the second lowest degree value for the wheel, that I think it is 460º.
Here's the tune that I used from TRL_Andromeda: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...p-fuji-speedway-f.327674/page-2#post-10689129

Here's the video of my run:
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wich wheel are you using?HOW you change steering degree in gt6?
 
Lilium
@coryclifford thanks for testing out, I have been busy with driving school, and life, but did test some cars.
And on your pace with the daytona, I'm around 1s, 1,3's back at my best, so kudos :cheers:.

I tested the Lister Storm, and oh my what a boat. the power was good, but i had to tinker alot with the set-up to try to reach a good turn in, and even so, its still either super boat, or finicky to control.

Ford Falcon XR8: pretty stableand power as a gt500. Pretty safe, but its just a pace holder. It won't give you an edge. need to run it with lower DF to not bog down on the straights

M3 GT2 base model '11: pretty fun and grippy. turns well and its preddictable, but as the xr8, its a pace holder.

Castrol Tom's Supra '97: one of my fav cars because urrh childhood, that had to be coupled with a low turbo for this.
goes fast, not hsv fast, controls fantastic, and i just have to short shift it to hell. pretty grippy, but dies down on the straights a bit.

GTR NISMO GT3 N24 Schulze: my favourite car from the GT3's, you can push as hard as you like, and the car normally is responsive and grippy. Has a great power band for a detuned no parts car, and keeps the pace well. no world beater, but you can snatch wins if you're not against an pretty fast driver.

Corvette Z06 (c2) race vroom '63: at 597PP, like the Daytona, this is the car for the straights, it just accels through the straights, and there's nothing others can do, except corner faster than you. They'll do it, and since this isn't an oval, unfortunatly never had much luck with the C2. You can't push it as you push the Daytona. have to mind more of the trhottle and steer input, but pretty rewarding car to finish well.

Next on the list for testing, is the:
350Z Concept Lm Race car;
Calsonic Skyline '00;
Camaro LM Race car;
Corvette C5-R '00;
Viper GTS-R '00
Camaro SS touring car '10
CLK Touring Car '00;
Opel Astra V8 Touring car '00:
M3 GTR Race Car '01


And guys, can you try the Z GT500 Base model '06? as the first car that I tried here, I noticed I normally accelarate more than the HSV's, and the care is super predictable and stable. would like to find out if it can run similiar times
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Ran the RX-7 GT300 (Base Model) last night at Midfield. Tried a couple of different rooms and managed to get wins in both (although against slower fields). Managed to outpace the HSVs down the straight too. At first I thought I was just up against a poor tune because of the quality of the opposition but it happened in both rooms. Best for the GT300 was a low 1.05 but mainly mid to high 1.05s (I'm not fast either). Cornering isn't as stable as the HSV as it took a bit of work but haven't really tweaked the tune that was already on the car.
 
Re: RX-7
I came across a guy that blew by me and everyone else like nothing I've seen before. He had to be driving a ballast added RX-7 car, but, as expected the way a heavy car is, he couldn't hang in braking and in the corners. He was easily motoring right around me on the straights, like way too easily.
 
I can get my RX-7 Touring up to 177 mph down the straight. It doesn't handle well but after much fiddling with gears and setup, I managed a 1:03.750 with it.
 
outlaw4rc
I can get my RX-7 Touring up to 177 mph down the straight. It doesn't handle well but after much fiddling with gears and setup, I managed a 1:03.750 with it.
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Same for my supra...however hard to do clean with so many dirty drivers​
 
have been loving the Bathurst Races with the touring cars,
heaps of excellent, clean drivers.
the Audi TT seems to have the grunt, but just not as nimble across the top of the mountain as the M3 and a bit vague on turn-in

Appears to be no boost either, so if you can get a break on the field and drive clean laps you maintain your lead, or you have to work really hard to catch up if you make a mistake
 
coryclifford
1:02.7 is straight up fast. Anyone faster, you can pretty much assume they're doing the SRF cheat. Or just stupid fast, but I'd guess SRF.
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SRF was OFF.
 
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Wow - and I was accused of using SRF on Saturday night for running 1.03s.....

Some guy insisted that the GTR was faster than the HSV, and therefore he should be winning!
 

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