First Bugatti Veyron delivered!

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Young_Warrior
Thats a bit randon seeing as a exige is like what a 30 grand car and the veyron is a 1.3 mill car. Bit of a stupid thing to say really.
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The Exige is 50 grand, and weighs 1900 pounds. That takes REAL skill to engineer. Any car manufacturer could bolt on 20000 turbos to get 10000000000000 hp for it to go fast, but Lotus builds low hp, lightweight cars, and that's what counts. 👍
 
Wrong. Any manufacturer can bolt on loads of turbos and make thousands of horses but those cars would only be able to run for a limited peroid of time and or are very unreliable.

Not just any manufacturer can make a reliable 1001hp daily driver car that will out handle things half its weight.

As for makin light cars so do TVR and plenty other mnufacturers. Lotus was just the pioneers of that formula.
 
Raghavan
The Exige is 50 grand, and weighs 1900 pounds. That takes REAL skill to engineer. Any car manufacturer could bolt on 20000 turbos to get 10000000000000 hp for it to go fast, but Lotus builds low hp, lightweight cars, and that's what counts. 👍
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To be fair, Lotus builds lightweight cars, and straps other companies' low-hp engines into them. ;)

And comparing a lightweight bargain track/autocross runner to a luxury supercar engineered specifically for straight-line speed? Certainly not the most logical comparison one could make... :indiff:
 
There are some streetable 1000 hp Skylines, but those cars are on the edge of reliability.

It's quite something to come out with a streetable and reliable 1000 hp engine.
 
niky
There are some streetable 1000 hp Skylines, but those cars are on the edge of reliability.

It's quite something to come out with a streetable and reliable 1000 hp engine.
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yeah, but I was just wondering about how they compare in terms of speed.
 
Last I checked, a 1000 Hp Skyline with a reinforced drivetrain would run low 9 1/4 miles.

With the right gearing, it should hang with a Veyron.

I think I saw a 1000 or so Hp Supra race a Mclaren F1, and it got whooped up on (no traction) but it would be interesting to see an R34 with the same power take on a car weighing about 1000 lbs more.

Should be neat seeing if that SSC Super Aero makes it to production with their claims.
 
Raghavan
The Exige is 50 grand, and weighs 1900 pounds. That takes REAL skill to engineer. Any car manufacturer could bolt on 20000 turbos to get 10000000000000 hp for it to go fast, but Lotus builds low hp, lightweight cars, and that's what counts. 👍
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No the Lotus costs £30k or £29,995, the Veyron vs the Exige is a no comparison contest, both were designed for different reasons on different budgets. The Veyron is a masterpeice of auto creation, it so far surpasses anything else on the road performance wise while at the same time being reliable through final testing and offering comfort and ease of use. If your into lightewight sportscars fine, so am I, but that doesn't take anything aay from the Veyron, if it was meant to be lightweight they wouldn't have opted for a 7.7 liter W16 engine and 4wd.
 
TsLeng
I wonder how those '1000hp' tuner Japanese cars stack up againts the veyron especially the skyline.


If those tuner cars really have 1000hp, they should at least be equal in terms of acceleration especially the skyline compared to the veyron and might even handle better because of lower weight.

Anyone have these cars? :dopey: If you do, test it for me okay? :crazy:
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A tough one to crack, some might, som might not but I doubt any will keep up while offering the same reliability. I'm guessing most won't, I can't see a 1000Bhp skyline hitting 200Mph in under 20 seconds, were not talking normal speeds here, were talking insane acceleration that you just don't see on road cars normaly.

Most 1000Bhp skylines don't break the 220mph barrier. What I'd probably say is a close match, in terms of acceleration at least would be the Hennesey Vipers or Lingenfelter Vettes, all on proper street tyres of course. I think it would be pretty close in cases with cars like the Viper 1000TT, but I doubt thoes would offer as much reliability, I may be wrong but I doubt the 1000TT will come with a 3 year warranty. Another match would be the Cerbera Speed 12, though it would lose a second to the Veyron to 60 according to sources, it absolutely canes it to 200Mph very easily under 20 seconds, however theres no official figures for the fabulous W112 BHG, EVO magazine are supposedly doing a performance test in the future.
 
live4speed
No the Lotus costs £30k or £29,995, the Veyron vs the Exige is a no comparison contest, both were designed for different reasons on different budgets. The Veyron is a masterpeice of auto creation, it so far surpasses anything else on the road performance wise while at the same time being reliable through final testing and offering comfort and ease of use. If your into lightewight sportscars fine, so am I, but that doesn't take anything aay from the Veyron, if it was meant to be lightweight they wouldn't have opted for a 7.7 liter W16 engine and 4wd.
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I think cars are cheaper in the US than in the UK. Besides, i think it's a bit pointless to have 1000 hp. Still a great car, but i wouldn't buy one. If you guys want to give me one, though, i don't mind. :D
 
Yeah, I doubt I'd buy one if I had the cash to spend, but I kind of like the idea that theres a car mad enough to do that even if I wouldn't take it. Cars are cheaper in the US generally, but the dollar is weaker than the pound, so £29,995 is equal to $53,184 so 50k in USD sounds about right. That said, most low volume European sports and exotics that go to the US tend to have their price inflated.
 
Young_Warrior
The veyron has special road legal tires. The skylines tires in comparison are skinny to it.
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The Veyrons tyres are mainly specail in that they were designed to cope wth 250mph speeds, as for their width, yeah tyhey're wide, but so are the tyres on a Lambo. Once you've hit higher ratios in the gears and got the initial acceleration out of the way, the rolls of tyre width actually reverses, thinner tyres provide more speed and less resistance, it's just the lower speed acceleration where you may need the extra resistance more.
 
Yeah when he said 50k he meant USD. I think the MSRP here is actually around 40k (before taxes) because of Britain's funky VAT or whatever that is :confused:

The Elise is a great car. Well engineered? No doubt! It doesn't weigh very much. Will it hit 250mph? No.
The Veyron is a great car. Well engineered? No doubt! It has 1000nhp. Will it pull over 1g on a skidpad? No.

Both the cars are well engineered, but, like live4speed said, have been engineered for different purposes. They do their respective jobs quite well, BTW.
 
live4speed
The Veyrons tyres are mainly specail in that they were designed to cope wth 250mph speeds, as for their width, yeah tyhey're wide, but so are the tyres on a Lambo. Once you've hit higher ratios in the gears and got the initial acceleration out of the way, the rolls of tyre width actually reverses, thinner tyres provide more speed and less resistance, it's just the lower speed acceleration where you may need the extra resistance more.
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Also is the fact that most Skylines are as aerodynamic as a house and the Big bentley is very smooth. Not to mention the fact that I can guarantee that this Bentley has far, far more torque than any Skyline will ever have. I can, however see a performance comparison coming between the Veyron and the Saleen S7 in the future (If there is a god he would shove a Cerbera Speed 12 in there as well).
 
Yeah he meant Bugatti.

Toronado
Also is the fact that most Skylines are as aerodynamic as a house and the Big bentley is very smooth. Not to mention the fact that I can guarantee that this Bentley has far, far more torque than any Skyline will ever have. I can, however see a performance comparison coming between the Veyron and the Saleen S7 in the future (If there is a god he would shove a Cerbera Speed 12 in there as well).
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I've heared a bit about that new turbo S7, tbh I don't think it would beat this, would be interesting though. The Speed 12 would be a very interesting comparison, over 1000Bhp per tonne in the TVR and enough torque to snap a input shaft tested to 1000 lbs/ft of the stuff, it certainly has the figures to beat the Bugatti, but as we all know, it doesn't always boil down to the figures. Both supposedly capable of over 250Mph, both can hit 200 in under 20 seconds and both have over 1000Bhp, the TVR however has no traction control, ABS or airbags :ill:.
 
live4speed
I can't see a 1000Bhp skyline hitting 200Mph in under 20 seconds
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Just curious why you think that? RH9 Street driven 1000hp Skylines in Japan are doing the 0-1000m anywhere from 16-20seconds. A car thats passing the line in 18 seconds is already doing over 200mph. a 1000hp Skyline still has 1000hp 4WD and weights considerbly less than the Veyron, I know it would reach the same top speed but they do accelerate crazy fast.

I think its a silly comparison anyway a modified car vs a road car.
 
VIPERGTSR01
I think its a silly comparison anyway a modified car vs a road car.
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Yay! Someone with common sense!

I wish you could come to Ferrarichat and fend off the guys who come in bragging about how their modified Cobras and Evos can beat a Ferrari...
 
Hiya! :D :embarrassed: :lol: Meow! (='.'=)

Mmmmm...It seems like the Bugatti Veyron can be on the top for quite a while. Anyone have an idea of how long it could stay up on the top? :odd: I still remember Saleen have some kind of plan to boost up the Saleen S7 Twin Turbo from 750 to 1000HP. :embarrassed:
 
VIPERGTSR01
Just curious why you think that? RH9 Street driven 1000hp Skylines in Japan are doing the 0-1000m anywhere from 16-20seconds. A car thats passing the line in 18 seconds is already doing over 200mph. a 1000hp Skyline still has 1000hp 4WD and weights considerbly less than the Veyron, I know it would reach the same top speed but they do accelerate crazy fast.
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The simplae answer is that I'm not incredibly knowledgable when it comes to the tuned cars side of things, I didn't know of any 1000Bhp Skylines doing that, but if there are some, then I guess that proves they can do that.
 
VIPERGTSR01
I know it would reach the same top speed but they do accelerate crazy fast.
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I just realised I meant to say wouldnt reach the same top speed (most likely) as the Veyron was wind tested and designed for 400km/h.

I still should accelerate just as if not faster though.
 
For the record:

Exige MSRP - 50,990$

options list:

Touring Pack - $1350
Lotus Traction Control - $495
limited slip differential with Lotus Traction Control - $1790
air conditioning delete - $250 (removes approximately 22 lbs.)
Metallic Paint - $590
Lifestyle Paint - $1200
 
hahaha..

The only car i've seen that costs money to lack an A/C....hahahah...

Doesn't the exige use the celica motor aswell?

meaning..you can just get a custom celica belt for it to work without an A/C...

funny funny stuff...

but yes I know it means removing the piping resealing the firewall.eliminating it from the console...but it's still funny.

how much to get a Lotus "TRD" supercharger?
 
Lotus considers the Supercharger reason for a new model name.

The Exige 240(243?) is Supercharged last I checked.

It is kind of a shame they didn't put one of Hondas 4 Bangers in there, instead of the Celica's.
 

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