First Car Suggestions? Daewoo FTW. Nothing else Matiz. Oh, and ExigeExcel's Almera.

[slidesquad#1]

Solution: Toyo Proxes T1-R.

Something few owners ever realise - and then go "Ohhhhh, right. That kinda makes sense" - is that the MX-3 (yes - AutoZam AZ-1 or Eunos Presso) has passive rear wheel steering.

But ultrabeat won't get insured on the V6 in the UK. The 1.6/1.6 auto would be a different kettle of fish, but still quite expensive for a not-very-quick car.

That does make sense...try getting insurance for a turboed Subaru though, I'm the second driver, and I'm still paying more than as the primary driver for the Eunos...but you take the good with the bad.

Also think about getting an old(er) sedan, like a camry maybe? relaible and practical. Not the quickest in the world, but that's not the point of a first car. And if, not trying to jinx you here, you do have an altercation with roadside objects, you'll be increasing your chances of getting out inone piece...

 

[Danny]

Sure. Or you could buy a Black & Decker 12v Cordless Powerdrill - more power, more torque, more acceleration and the added advantage that you really CAN place it to your temple, as opposed to driving the Cuore when you'd just WISH you could.

Mk5 Fiesta or a Yaris.

No tedium, thankyou.

 

[d12dotcom]

I gave my Fiesta a bit of a thrashing last night, with a friend who has a Mk3 Fiesta too, but his is 5 door and a 1.3. It cant quite keep up with his, but it isnt that much of a slouch. Brakes are quite good, acceleration isnt bad, very understeery though as you would expect. Could really do with some better tires on it. Also, my temp gauge says that the water is always really cold (in the white) no matter what I do really, and the washer jets seem to not work most of the time. If they dont work, I usually have to open the bonnet up, then do them (then they work) then put the bonnet back down and they work properly then

 

[ExigeEvan]

Yeah but the older Fiestas look so crap...The newer one less so. I mean my 50 yr old Auntie only just manages to look normal in one let alone a 17yr old. (sorry d12dotcom, I just really hate the look of the Fiestas.)

The Yaris is a great car, but it's for old people.

Now I'm not suddenly becoming very shallow, but if you can get a car with similair reliability and style and get preffered looks then hell, go for it.

 

[Danny]

Join my quest for shallowness!

 

[Famine]

No tedium, thankyou.

Try insuring anything else.

The Mk3/4/5 Fiesta is a great drive. The Mk4 is ugly as a blind cobbler's thumb. Avoid the 1.3i.

The Yaris is also a great drive, and the 1.5TSport isn't outside insurable range.

 

[colton19911]

Hmmm... Should I get a Chevy Silverado or a Dodge Ram SRT-10?

 

[YSSMAN]

My picks: The MKIII Jetta or Golf... Safe, fun to drive, and easy to maintain. The GTI is a blast to drive, and if you have the cash for a Jetta GLX VR6, you can beat up on E36 3-series' all day if you want...

 

[MugenVTEC]

Honda Civic, the same thing I tell everyone. It's cheap to insure, they won't break, they will run forever, they get good mileage, and they aren't horrific looking.

Well, we dont live in the same country... Civic's here in Quebec cost alot in insurances.

I would suggest 2 cars, Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz because they last forever, or any Toyota you can find. They cost nothing and they all last forever...

 

[FC3Sleepah]

Well, my first car will be one of my two rx7's..lmfao I'm gonna get raped for insurance. Anyways, try getting a small FF car. Yaris would do you good.

 

[Joey D]

Well, we dont live in the same country... Civic's here in Quebec cost alot in insurances.

I would suggest 2 cars, Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz because they last forever, or any Toyota you can find. They cost nothing and they all last forever...

Who cares, a Honda Civic will last forever and you'll probably never have a problem with it if you take care of it. I'd pay a tad more in insurence then getting a Tempo...which is a pile of crap.

 

[Famine]

My picks: The MKIII Jetta or Golf... Safe, fun to drive, and easy to maintain. The GTI is a blast to drive, and if you have the cash for a Jetta GLX VR6, you can beat up on E36 3-series' all day if you want...

He'd never get insured on either.

 

[YSSMAN]

Insurance is expensive on the Vee-Dubs, sure... I spend about $150 a month for full coverage on my '96 Wolfsburg. For the same coverage on a '96 Jetta GLX VR6, it would have been just north of $200.

But IMO, the trade-off of cost with good looks, good fuel economy, a sporty yet comfortable ride, and the good resale value, you cant go wrong with an MKIII.

But hey, if youve got money to play with, you can always go looking for a Scirroco or a Corrado. Good luck finding one!

 

[Famine]

Insurance is expensive on the Vee-Dubs, sure... I spend about $150 a month for full coverage on my '96 Wolfsburg. For the same coverage on a '96 Jetta GLX VR6, it would have been just north of $200.

But IMO, the trade-off of cost with good looks, good fuel economy, a sporty yet comfortable ride, and the good resale value, you cant go wrong with an MKIII.

But hey, if youve got money to play with, you can always go looking for a Scirroco or a Corrado. Good luck finding one!

No - he wouldn't GET insurance on either, not it'd be expensive.

Any insurance company in the UK would look at a 17 year old and a VR6 and put the phone down.

 

[T5-R]

Haha, did someone say Volvo?

Hmm as much as I love old big Volvos, unless your in the states I wouldn't really recommend one as a first car for 2 reasons 1) There massive 2) Their damn thirsty, they are very reliable and will do high mileages if not neglected but parts are often expensive when they do need replacing (when compared to fords etc...).

Are there any small volvo that will be cheap and easy to insure?

I wouldn't recomend the 300 series there a bit crappy and too old, but the 2.0 GLT would be a lot of fun. RWD with the same 2.0 engine as in the 740s.

The car I bought recently would make an ideal first car (its my second, somewhat of a stand in). 1996 Volvo 460 (small Volvo with a boot but bigger than 340/360), mines got the smallest 1.6 litre engine but that means insurance group 6 and 35MPG. I'd advise to go for the mark 2s (face lifted) as these are better in many ways and many of the early build problems were sorted apart from the poor design of the rear arches (rust), make sure you get a nice one and sort it before its too late (something I really have to do ). Should be able to pick up a nice one with 63,000 miles etc... for £800 or less. Get one with a nice spec like mine and you get a spoiler, alloys and air con all in insurance group 6! Might be a smallish car but mine atleast feels like a much bigger car.

 

[James2097]

Maybach.

Good first car.

 

[iceburns288]

Honda Integra!

 

[Famine]

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Insurance.

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His chances of being insured on anything with more than 100hp, or 1.6 litres, are very close to nil.

 

[ExigeEvan]

No offense, but the suggestions flowing from the Americans are little to no use. The only reasonable one so far is the Civic.

Danny, it's a choice between the Famine Choice of a Ford Fiesta suffering from a stroke or a Renault Clio which has the feel and drive of a crippled sloth.

 

[Famine]

No offense, but the suggestions flowing from the Americans are little to no use. The only reasonable one so far is the Civic.

Danny, it's a choice between the Famine Choice of a Ford Fiesta suffering from a stroke or a Renault Clio which has the feel and drive of a crippled sloth.

Not the Mk4 stroke-face. The Mk5.

 

[Danny]

No offense, but the suggestions flowing from the Americans are little to no use. The only reasonable one so far is the Civic.

Danny, it's a choice between the Famine Choice of a Ford Fiesta suffering from a stroke or a Renault Clio which has the feel and drive of a crippled sloth.

But sloths are cute.

The Fords and Hondas all seems a bit sedate, and Famine seems to have some dissapproval.


Hmmmm.....

Daihatsu Copen?

 

[ExigeEvan]

If you want an overly large shoe that you need to idle at the end of every journey by my guest.

Though it simply having a turbo might push the insurance up.

 

[Danny]

Awww!

But it's less than 1.0



And I like overly large shoes.

 

[benzoboy]

8 Miles from me!

****!

You lucky bugger!

 

[Danny]

Dude, I'm not going to buy it.

 

[nightkid86]

For a first car I would vote civic. My first car was a civic and never gave me any problems...except that it was a civic.

 

[Danny]

Civic and New Direhatsu Charade are top of the probable list right now

Off topic, you have a Morgan?

Cool!

 

[Danny]

Ok, crunch.

Having taken all advice on board and what I can and cannot insure, I have decided to drop the Clio from the list.
A sad day indeed.

As it goes,
Yaris 1.0 vs. Honda Jazz vs. New Fiat Panda 1.1 vs. (at a stretch) a 1.4l 3dr Megane Extreme.

The trouble with the Megane would be the actual finding and buying.

 

[Famine]

Yaris is good, but 1.0 is gutless. Jazz is great but you aren't homosexual or a girl.

Panda it is then.

 

[Danny]

Any word on build quality or reliability?

I'm really hoping it's improved, my dad despises Fiat since owning a Brava.