FITT Challenge STi Vs Evo Battle! Results; Congratulations to Praiano63, Otaliema & Brian Wolf
- Thread starter Otaliema
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Lancer Evo V GSR '98
481PP
58:42
GVE Sports Hard, Tsukuba Comfort Soft
SUSPENSION
120/120
8.50/7.64
4/7
5/7
4/6
0.0/0.0
0.00/0.15
Racing BRAKES
3/2
Six-Speed TRANSMISSION
LSD
20/10
7/14
20/10
Twin-Plate Clutch
Torque Distribution
39:61
POWER
100%
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
BODY
Balast 22kg
Position 15%
Weight Reduction Stage 3
481PP
58:42
GVE Sports Hard, Tsukuba Comfort Soft
SUSPENSION
120/120
8.50/7.64
4/7
5/7
4/6
0.0/0.0
0.00/0.15
Racing BRAKES
3/2
Six-Speed TRANSMISSION
LSD
20/10
7/14
20/10
Twin-Plate Clutch
Torque Distribution
39:61
POWER
100%
Isometric Exhaust Manifold
BODY
Balast 22kg
Position 15%
Weight Reduction Stage 3
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- Lionheart2113
@praiano63 another tune I couldn't match like for like. I was able to reach 485pp 3 more than the tune lists, but the gear ratios are also a little different....only just though, so no major issues there. I noticed that you had version 1.04 listed as well, but going by the date of your tune, I would think you were on a later version. Is there a possibility that GT6 is slightly different from player to player?
To be fair, Hami built them and sent them to me to share!! The GTP carshare accounts that were set up by @Ridox2JZGTE were the best by far. I'm hoping sharing will make an appearance in the near future now the GT5 servers have closed, there are lots to build for this shootout, which means I should probably get started soon.
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- paracuru
- praiano63
Perhaps the gears ratios that i´ve writen on the tune sheet are the ones that appear with oil change, my first car had it changed. Anyway, ratios don´t mater , it just a 6 ratio gearbox, not the custom one.@praiano63 another tune I couldn't match like for like. I was able to reach 485pp 3 more than the tune lists, but the gear ratios are also a little different....only just though, so no major issues there. I noticed that you had version 1.04 listed as well, but going by the date of your tune, I would think you were on a later version. Is there a possibility that GT6 is slightly different from player to player?
For the PP it´s 485 not 482 as it is written. It´s correct now.
Sorry for this.
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- Hampshire
- Lionheart2113
No worries...for as many spreadsheets that you do, I think a minor ooops of 3pp would be allowed, only every now and then though!
I didn't think the gears were that much of an issue, like you said, they are stock and can't be changed, so I just pushed forward and I'm now taking it to Tsukuba.
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- GTP_Orido
I really missed the car sharing feature, the GTPcarshare account has been dead for months now
No worries...for as many spreadsheets that you do, I think a minor ooops of 3pp would be allowed, only every now and then though!
Not sure if it's really okay, I seem to recall last shootout or was it in Spec Miata, @JujiroMatsuda made some posts about differences in performance on 5 speed and 6 speed ratio when different parts or oil change or no oil change - different ratio gives different top speed/acceleration ?, something like that
Will have to ask @Otaliema.
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- Hampshire
- Lionheart2113
@Ridox2JZGTE yeah, I understand what you are saying, but in this case it's a 6speed/6speed scenario and the first couple of gears are out by .021 with the same final. That's why I didn't think it was too big of a deal. I know as a replica tuner that would drive you nuts, and from an engineering point of view it does me as well, but I've learned in the GT world that there needs to be some room for forgiveness or else the numbers will consume you!
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- paracuru
- praiano63
I think you did not understand. There is no problem with the ratios. The one that are writen on the tune sheet are the ratios numbers that were showed with the car OIL CHANGED.Not sure if it's really okay, I seem to recall last shootout or was it in Spec Miata, @JujiroMatsuda made some posts about differences in performance on 5 speed and 6 speed ratio when different parts or oil change or no oil change - different ratio gives different top speed/acceleration ?, something like that
Then i´ve builded the car with NO OIL CHANGE but i´ve forgot to change the ratio numbers of the 6 speed gearbox that are different of course now.
This don´t mater because the right unmutable numbers will be the one that the car NO OIL CHANGE will show with a 6 speed gearbox. If it was a custom one ok. But not in this case.
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- GTP_Orido
I often mad when PD made so many mistakes with a car specs
PD even made mistakes on their pet car Nissan GTR from wrong weight distribution to incorrect stock 5th gear ratio, should be 1.001 not 1.000 
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- Dearborn, MI
- MotorCtyHamilton
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- Yokosuka-shi
- ShakoYM-JP
- 1,485
- Hampshire
- Lionheart2113
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- Saltash
- Dolhaus
Low-RpmTurbo/ Isometric Exhaust/ Intake Tuning/ Power Limiter 97.6% = 479 pp, 315 bhp, 46 kgfm, 3.65kg/bhp
Low-Rpm Turbo/ Isometric Exhaust/ Sports Exhaust/ Power Limiter 96.1% = 479 pp, 315 bhp, 46 kgfm, 3.65kg/bhp
Low-Rpm Turbo/ Isometric Exhaust/ Sports Catalytic Converter / Power Limiter 96.6% = 479 pp, 315 bhp, 45 kgfm, 3.65kg/bhp
Stage 1 Engine tuning/ Low-RPM Turbo/ Intake Tuning/ Power Limiter 95.2% = 480pp, 315 bhp, 46 kgfm, 3.65kg/bhp
These are a few combinations that will put you within the accepted BHP/Power Limiter range, If you could fit one and make note of the PS then you will have a reference point. You can then make your own decision regarding fitted parts and edit your post. If you could let me know when you have done this I will check it over and make sure
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- Saltash
- Dolhaus
I think the early hours were the reason for the initial mistake!I was going to make the comment that it was in the early hours of the morning when you posted that!
- 1,485
- Hampshire
- Lionheart2113
Dangit Krenkme, your non spoiler just cost me 3K. For that, your car now looks like a giant purple jelly bean in my garage....I dub thee "Grimace"!Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version III '96
Spec Street Tuner Edition
315bhp
476pp
weight 1150 Kg
parts
NO Oil Change
Remove Rear Wing
Paint - GT FLUORESCENCE 002-C
PDI P525N wheels painted Jet Black
Sport Hard / Comfort Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Six Speed Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Twin Plate Clutch
Torque-Distributing Center Diff.
Stage 3 Engine
Stage 3 weight Reduction
ABS = 1
everything else off
Tune
Ride Hight - Front: 105 Rear: 100
Spring Rate- Front: 5.30 Rear: 5.50
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 2
Extension- Front: 5 Rear: 3
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 1 Rear: 3
Camber- Front: 0.0 Rear: 0.0
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: -0.10
Brakes- Front: 4 Rear: 8
LSD - FRONT - 20/35/5 BACK - 15/20/15
Torque split - 40/60
Power Limiter - 96.8%
Weight Adjustment - 88@ 50
TUNER NOTES -
Well...ummmm...I like cake still
TESTERS NOTES
SH- Grand Valley East
CS- Tsukuba..dubie-do
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- Brooklyn, Wi
- krenkme
Dangit Krenkme, your non spoiler just cost me 3K. For that, your car now looks like a giant purple jelly bean in my garage....I dub thee "Grimace"!
Lol
Blame the Hambergerler, he stole it off the car
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Set aside some time, have a pad and pen handy, have the tunes all ready on cars (have tuner name in a, b, c settings if you want), get some practice in with the tracks you will be on (you kinda have this if you tuned an entry on the tracks) and uh, hot lap away. Lap the first one or two tunes again at the end or half way through or whatever if you notice your skill or whatever getting better. Might have to split the testing up, this event is big. There's no real set formula how to test. Some testers give every car 6 laps or whatever, but I race each car until I have made a perfect enough lap in it.
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- Otaliema
Sounds good sir. if you get the time just go for it and post your results.
There is no such thing as enough testers
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Testing is pretty simple just time consuming.
I recommenced using something like Google docs or a word program to record your results so you can make driver notes and feed back and lap times on each tune as you complete it.
Most of the time testers do the following after building a car
Check it again
Put 5 laps on it to learn it
Exit remove ghost
Put 2, 3 lap stints down for hot lapping.
Rise and lather and repeat for all cars in a group.
The Scoring and results post has the basics on how to score for Drivers choice. Each person scores just a little diffferntly. But general consensis is how did YOU like it. 1 OMG worst tune I've ever put on my car. 10 God like tune I'm so keeping this. half points are allowed with drivers choice.
Note the fastest car is not always the funnest car and the funnest car is not always the fastest or best car.
In the hot hatch challenge the second place DC in the hothatch class for drivers choice was like 5th or 6th for lap time.
Or in the Muscle car shoot out my C2 was 2nd in lap time and 7th in DC (only 9 cars).
So DC is a subjective score based on how you felt with the tune on the car for those laps.
A understanding of BB code is usefull but not required. basic commands
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Great adivce
Much less wordy than mine but I typed a lot so i'm leaving it.
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- Hampshire
- Lionheart2113
Always love more testers, it makes for more fun comparing times, driving styles, and comments. There's really no guide to speak of, just maybe some helpful advice...
Be sure that you are ok with spending the funds...they seem to be at a premium in GT6. Would hate to see you get most of the way through and run out.
Choose a group and work your way through one by one until completing that particular group.
Check, check and double check. With multi car/options/tracks like this challenge, maybe write yourself some notes on tuners who use the same car and concentrate on those first. (Ex. Praiano and Brianwolf use the same Impreza) Making sure that you follow their tune down to the letter. Hence why you see some of us testers asking questions when we get different numbers than the tuners listed.
When going to the track, I go to Single Player Time Trial mode. Be sure that you check your settings properly (TCS seems to always default back to 5 on me).
At track settings: check that the grip is set to real and if the track calls for wet.
I am currently running each car for 2 sets of 10 laps at every track. Without giving too much away right now, it's best to run atleast 7 laps on the tires before restarting.
Keep track of your best times for each car and track along with what you liked or didn't like about the car. As long as you are respectful with your criticism, most, if not all, of the tuners appreciate the honesty.
Depending on which of us testers get done first, there is usually a good format to copy from when posting your results.
And most important....have fun and don't worry about your times!!! Drive the car putting everything you can into it, and no one can look down on you for that and slag off your times. Who knows it might be the car, not the driver!
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