FITT - Moving on to GT6!

[TruGenTimeless]

There are no joining instructions, as such. Keep an eye on this thread, particularly the front page, which should have a calendar for upcoming events. Once an event has started, you'll see a thread posted in this forum, usually prefixed with "FITT Shootout". Once an event has been posted, simply register your interest as a tuner or tester 👍

Look forward to hopefully seeing you at the imminent Wagon Shootout

{Cy}

Oh ok awesome...Cheers

 

[Motor City Hami]

Sorry that I didn't get the Wagon challenge posted last night. Wasn't feeling well after dinner. Will try to get it posted tonight, probably after 10 pm eastern time.

 

[CyKosis1973]

Oh ok awesome...Cheers

See below, Gen, Wagon Shootout should be posted up once our MCH has gotten over his Delhi Belly

Sorry that I didn't get the Wagon challenge posted last night. Wasn't feeling well after dinner. Will try to get it posted tonight, probably after 10 pm eastern time.

{Cy}

 

[Motor City Hami]

Plan to post tonight after 10PM eastern.

Do we need to worry about hacked cars starting to show up in our FITT tuner challenges? I think we are a pretty honest group, but maybe keeping an eye on new tuners? Just waiting for the day when people figure out how to adjust grip levels.

 

[praiano63]

Plan to post tonight after 10PM eastern.

Do we need to worry about hacked cars starting to show up in our FITT tuner challenges? I think we are a pretty honest group, but maybe keeping an eye on new tuners? Just waiting for the day when people figure out how to adjust grip levels.

If there is any doubt with a car ,it'll be easy to check, just need to build one.

 

[xande1959]

plan to post tonight after 10pm eastern.

Do we need to worry about hacked cars starting to show up in our fitt tuner challenges? I think we are a pretty honest group, but maybe keeping an eye on new tuners? Just waiting for the day when people figure out how to adjust grip levels.

do you have some tips on how many cars pp

 

[VTiRoj]

Plan to post tonight after 10PM eastern.

Do we need to worry about hacked cars starting to show up in our FITT tuner challenges? I think we are a pretty honest group, but maybe keeping an eye on new tuners? Just waiting for the day when people figure out how to adjust grip levels.

I don't think we need to worry. The people using hacked cars dishonestly are usually not tuners to begin with and likely don't care about these contests. The guys running time trials on the forums might have to keep an eye out though. Praiano's suggestion is pretty much all we need to do in order to keep things clean anyway. 👍

 

[Johnnypenso]

Plan to post tonight after 10PM eastern.

Do we need to worry about hacked cars starting to show up in our FITT tuner challenges? I think we are a pretty honest group, but maybe keeping an eye on new tuners? Just waiting for the day when people figure out how to adjust grip levels.

You mean I can't use my 37PP, 4,000 horsepower Altezza Gita??

There is a tire available called Racing Super Soft I believe...not sure where it came from or how good it is. I'd be concerned if some tuner shows up out of the blue though...especially if we've seen him around the forums promoting hacked cars

 

[Onboy123]

You mean I can't use my 37PP, 4,000 horsepower Altezza Gita??

There is a tire available called Racing Super Soft I believe...not sure where it came from or how good it is. I'd be concerned if some tuner shows up out of the blue though...especially if we've seen him around the forums promoting hacked cars

Enter it if you want, I'd love to see it get the power down. unless the chassis is swapped out from some Veyron/X1/FGT uber-mash up.

A background check only raises suspicions, so really, just doing as Praiano said and just building it for ourselves is the only way to check.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Finishing the write up for the Wagon/SUV challenge now. As for the tracks, the feedback was pretty even, love/hate for each set of tracks, so I flipped a coin. At least half of you should be happy.

 

[DigitalBaka]

If its not my half I'll key your car!


Just kiddin.....maybe. Gotta keep an eye on me...

 

[ACSR421]

Is the next shootout already spoken for ? If not I have an idea for one where the testers can choose any track to test the cars as long as they use the same track for all cars. This would make it interesting for tuners knowing that they would need to tune a car to work well at all tracks. We can still use drivers choice and the speed would be averaged by the order each tester drove them from fastest to slowest.

 

[DigitalBaka]

Interesting idea. Can you come up with some numbers as an example of how you would do that calculation? Sounds like it could be good if we can make the time thing work.

Also got a suggestion for tuning the FGT from Facebook. Ignoring that we aren't likely to run an Indy 500 race, could that work for a shootout? Would we also need to include the Ferrari formula cars to even out the mix?

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I like that idea ACSR, but we need to set a rough guidelines for track choices, if one car driven by many testers, one of the testers test the car at Autumn Ring, another tester test it at Trial Mountain, another tester test at High Speed Ring then another tester bring it to Nordschleife .. I know it's kind of extreme, but the transmission and maybe the suspension would be a definite flaw in certain track.

 

[CSLACR]

You mean I can't use my 37PP, 4,000 horsepower Altezza Gita??

There is a tire available called Racing Super Soft I believe...not sure where it came from or how good it is. I'd be concerned if some tuner shows up out of the blue though...especially if we've seen him around the forums promoting hacked cars

You saw them in previous GT games, you didn't think they actually re-programmed GT5 did you?

I like that idea ACSR, but we need to set a rough guidelines for track choices, if one car driven by many testers, one of the testers test the car at Autumn Ring, another tester test it at Trial Mountain, another tester test at High Speed Ring then another tester bring it to Nordschleife .. I know it's kind of extreme, but the transmission and maybe the suspension would be a definite flaw in certain track.

Then you'll hate my idea for my next shootout...
1 car
3 compounds of tire (CS SS & RS)
2 levels of PP
Dunno about tracks
All with exactly 0 changes, to a single car/tune.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Then you'll hate my idea for my next shootout...
1 car
3 compounds of tire (CS SS & RS)
2 levels of PP
Dunno about tracks
All with exactly 0 changes, to a single car/tune.

Depends on the car Is it one of those bad handling car when stock ? Like Lancia Stratos or Lotus Esprit Turbo HC Wider range in PP level would be interesting - 50-100PP gap maybe. I think giving a list of track to choose from would be a good idea too, 2 track of each kind within these parameter : long, short, technical, high speed and a bumpy one

 

[ACSR421]

Interesting idea. Can you come up with some numbers as an example of how you would do that calculation? Sounds like it could be good if we can make the time thing work.

I thought about keeping it pretty simple. Say you have 12 tuners the fastest car for a tester who used " ex. HSR as their test track" would recieve 12 points, second 11, third 10 etc. So each car that is the fastest at a particular track gets the max points down to the slowest car that gets the least points of 1. Drivers Choice would be 1-10 points. The car with the most points in the end would be the winner.

@Riddox, a car would have to be tuned with one set of gears and suspension settings to take on any track.

For the car grouping to actually use, I'm still working out the details.
Any suggestions from the Fitt community?

I was thinking of using the old Japanese manufacturers rule of 276 hp max and also a 1100 or 1200 kg min.

 

[Xiamoto]

Hello FITT Testers and Tuners and thank you for all that you do for GTPlanet and GT5. I am a bit of a Noob and very thankful for the wealth of tuning knowledge I can learn from here. I wondered if you all would consider creating a "Pre-Tune/Post Tune Shootout" where the winner is declared to be the Tuner that achieved the highest incremental laptime reduction (as a percentage) using the Default tune vs. the Tuners' tune? Has that been done before?

Thanks again for all the great work you do here, Cheers!

 

[krenkme]

I thought about keeping it pretty simple. Say you have 12 tuners the fastest car for a tester who used " ex. HSR as their test track" would recieve 12 points, second 11, third 10 etc. So each car that is the fastest at a particular track gets the max points down to the slowest car that gets the least points of 1. Drivers Choice would be 1-10 points. The car with the most points in the end would be the winner.

@Riddox, a car would have to be tuned with one set of gears and suspension settings to take on any track.

For the car grouping to actually use, I'm still working out the details.
Any suggestions from the Fitt community?

I was thinking of using the old Japanese manufacturers rule of 276 hp max and also a 1100 or 1200 kg min.

You know me. I love classic cars 👍. Sounds good to me.

Hello FITT Testers and Tuners and thank you for all that you do for GTPlanet and GT5. I am a bit of a Noob and very thankful for the wealth of tuning knowledge I can learn from here. I wondered if you all would consider creating a "Pre-Tune/Post Tune Shootout" where the winner is declared to be the Tuner that achieved the highest incremental laptime reduction (as a percentage) using the Default tune vs. the Tuners' tune? Has that been done before?

Thanks again for all the great work you do here, Cheers!

This sounds very interesting. I'd be up for something like this

 

[VTiRoj]

I wondered if you all would consider creating a "Pre-Tune/Post Tune Shootout" where the winner is declared to be the Tuner that achieved the highest incremental laptime reduction (as a percentage) using the Default tune vs. the Tuners' tune? Has that been done before?

We used to do that in GT4, but as judging criteria, not the focus of the whole shootout. As for GT5, nope, never been done before. I'd like to see that kind of shootout happen. 👍

 

[Onboy123]

Well…I'm still waiting on GT5 TCv0.5. Whenever you're good with that, Roj, whenever that is.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Hello FITT Testers and Tuners and thank you for all that you do for GTPlanet and GT5. I am a bit of a Noob and very thankful for the wealth of tuning knowledge I can learn from here. I wondered if you all would consider creating a "Pre-Tune/Post Tune Shootout" where the winner is declared to be the Tuner that achieved the highest incremental laptime reduction (as a percentage) using the Default tune vs. the Tuners' tune? Has that been done before?

Thanks again for all the great work you do here, Cheers!

I think that would be an interesting twist. We have talked about it before, but never moved forward with a competition like this.

Many details to work out:
All tuning the same car?
Which do you run first, the default or the tune, due to potential learning curve?

 

[VTiRoj]

Well…I'm still waiting on GT5 TCv0.5. Whenever you're good with that, Roj, whenever that is.

Before GT6 comes out.

I think that would be an interesting twist. We have talked about it before, but never moved forward with a competition like this.

Many details to work out:
All tuning the same car?
Which do you run first, the default or the tune, due to potential learning curve?

It'd have to be the same car, otherwise it's a contest of who can find the worst default tune.

 

[Motor City Hami]

It'd have to be the same car, otherwise it's a contest of who can find the worst default tune.

Which would be an interesting challenge in itself.

 

[Xiamoto]

It'd have to be the same car, otherwise it's a contest of who can find the worst default tune.

My thought for a Pre-Tune/Post-Tune Shootout is that you would absolutely want to open the Shootout to many (or any) cars and that it is a contest about who can find a poor default tune worthy of restoration. Is that a bad thing?

Which would be an interesting challenge in itself.

Agreed MCH, because searching for that pathetic heap of a car collecting dust in your garage and making something better would rely heavily on the experience of the Tuners. It would be somewhat opposite (I think) of what happens now.....where Tuners select a somewhat strong base car and make it even stronger.


Am I on to something......or just on something?

 

[Motor City Hami]

Hmmm. With that as a construct, is there really any need for a PP limit? If it is all about lap time difference between default and tuned, then so be it. Would this mean running the default car, no oil change, no chassis rebuild vs. fully tuned. Tires would be the only mandate?

 

[CSLACR]

Sounds neat, of course you'll have to hope testers are really really bored and accurate.
Different cars means every tester testing every car twice. In doing so, hope that the stock tune doesn't get a lucky lap or your shootout's toast.

 

[VTiRoj]

My thought for a Pre-Tune/Post-Tune Shootout is that you would absolutely want to open the Shootout to many (or any) cars and that it is a contest about who can find a poor default tune worthy of restoration. Is that a bad thing?

No, no. If that's your intention then that's great. 👍 I just took the idea of improving over the default tune and jumped to the most extreme thing that could happen.

 

[Motor City Hami]

It depends on what you want to get out of the challenge.

Is it about:

1. Finding the best tuner at improving one chosen car?

2. Finding the best walk from default across a number of cars, showcased by the combination of tuner ability and effort behind car choice.

 

[Xiamoto]

It depends on what you want to get out of the challenge.

Is it about:

1. Finding the best tuner at improving one chosen car?

2. Finding the best walk from default across a number of cars, showcased by the combination of tuner ability and effort behind car choice.

I think my Shootout concept idea is more about all particpants enjoying the process that #2 would allow for. I'm certainly not a Tuner, but I do know that I would personally enjoy the idea of testing default vs. Tuned cars.