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Well, don't want to have all my practice time go to waste so here's my notes for Spa.

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La Source - It's better to sacrifice some entry speed to make a sharper entry to the apex and get the power down faster and have the wheel nice and straight. You do NOT want to go wide here because you WILL spin if you nip the small patch of grass on the exit. If your car is heading there, shove the car to the extra tarmac and let off for a moment. It's safer.

Eau Rouge - Smooth turning equates to better speed. If the speedo dips below 120 mph, you're turning too hard. Under draft conditions, though, a lot more turning may be required but it's still WOT.

Les Combes - A good braking point is the start of the rumble strips to the left. I suggest dropping the car to 70 mph and hug the car all the way to the right and get two wheels on the strips as that helps straighten the car. For the left hander, lift off the throttle and then get back on to around the 60-80% range depending on your comfort level. The key is not max speed but not letting the car drift too far out to the right because you must be all the way to the left before your turn in for the final right hander which comes up quickly. That corner is WOT but you will go off on exit if you do not get the turn-in angle correctly. You can cut in a bit on the inside and still come out okay.

Rivage - I brake a little early and soft, staring around the rumble strips to the left. Ease the car in and aim the car to go a little high on the middle of the corner. If done correctly, you have the perfect angle for the exit and it can be done with WOT without concerns about going off as the rears will spin a little keeping you on the tarmac. It's a bit hard to pull off with rear-biased brakes but very easy if your brakes are set forwards.

T11 - Use every bit of road and hug the strips to the right before letting off the throttle completely and aim for the apex but I wouldn't recommend touching it with any of the tires. A touch of brake at turn-in may help rotate the car more. The car is savable if you go wide on exit.

Pouhon - The key is actually not so much entry speed but being able to apply full throttle and not having to crank any extra wheel after the initial turn in. Yes, you can enter at or just above 100 mph but you'll end up going wide and scrubbing off speed trying to get back in line. I suggest braking straight and get the car down to around 95-97 mph. A good barometer for attacking Pouhon correctly is having the gear change light come on just as you exit the long curve.

Fagnes - I brake just after the start of the rumble strips to the left down to 80 mph. In this case, it's faster to carry as much speed as possible through the right-hander, regardless of where the car ends up before the left-hander. There is enough grip on the left side that you can turn in from there and still be fine. However, you will have to lift sooner than if your car is on the right side where a slight lift may only be required.

T15 -This corner can be taken at around 70 mph. I suggest that you smooth out your inputs for consistency rather than squeezing out every mph possible. You do not want to go too wide and hit the strips on exit at a bad angle because they can upset the car.

T16- A WOT corner but don't sleep on it, especially if you're drafting someone. The car can push wide here.

T18- A WOT corner but you'll need all the room to make it. Don't slack on entry or you'll be on the extra tarmac on the outside on exit. I do not suggest going two-wide here because contact is very likely. You might have to lift a little on entry under drafting but if you turn hard enough, it won't be needed.

Bus Stop - Turning in harder for the tight right-hander pays off for the following left-hander. The rumble strips will save you time but remember to keep two wheels on the tarmac to keep it legal.
 
Well, don't want to have all my practice time go to waste so here's my notes for Spa.

trackmap-spa_420x446.jpg


La Source - It's better to sacrifice some entry speed to make a sharper entry to the apex and get the power down faster and have the wheel nice and straight. You do NOT want to go wide here because you WILL spin if you nip the small patch of grass on the exit. If your car is heading there, shove the car to the extra tarmac and let off for a moment. It's safer.

Eau Rouge - Smooth turning equates to better speed. If the speedo dips below 120 mph, you're turning too hard. Under draft conditions, though, a lot more turning may be required but it's still WOT.

Les Combes - A good braking point is the start of the rumble strips to the left. I suggest dropping the car to 70 mph and hug the car all the way to the right and get two wheels on the strips as that helps straighten the car. For the left hander, lift off the throttle and then get back on to around the 60-80% range depending on your comfort level. The key is not max speed but not letting the car drift too far out to the right because you must be all the way to the left before your turn in for the final right hander which comes up quickly. That corner is WOT but you will go off on exit if you do not get the turn-in angle correctly. You can cut in a bit on the inside and still come out okay.

Rivage - I brake a little early and soft, staring around the rumble strips to the left. Ease the car in and aim the car to go a little high on the middle of the corner. If done correctly, you have the perfect angle for the exit and it can be done with WOT without concerns about going off as the rears will spin a little keeping you on the tarmac. It's a bit hard to pull off with rear-biased brakes but very easy if your brakes are set forwards.

T11 - Use every bit of road and hug the strips to the right before letting off the throttle completely and aim for the apex but I wouldn't recommend touching it with any of the tires. A touch of brake at turn-in may help rotate the car more. The car is savable if you go wide on exit.

Pouhon - The key is actually not so much entry speed but being able to apply full throttle and not having to crank any extra wheel after the initial turn in. Yes, you can enter at or just above 100 mph but you'll end up going wide and scrubbing off speed trying to get back in line. I suggest braking straight and get the car down to around 95-97 mph. A good barometer for attacking Pouhon correctly is having the gear change light come on just as you exit the long curve.

Fagnes - I brake just after the start of the rumble strips to the left down to 80 mph. In this case, it's faster to carry as much speed as possible through the right-hander, regardless of where the car ends up before the left-hander. There is enough grip on the left side that you can turn in from there and still be fine. However, you will have to lift sooner than if your car is on the right side where a slight lift may only be required.

T15 -This corner can be taken at around 70 mph. I suggest that you smooth out your inputs for consistency rather than squeezing out every mph possible. You do not want to go too wide and hit the strips on exit at a bad angle because they can upset the car.

T16- A WOT corner but don't sleep on it, especially if you're drafting someone. The car can push wide here.

T18- A WOT corner but you'll need all the room to make it. Don't slack on entry or you'll be on the extra tarmac on the outside on exit. I do not suggest going two-wide here because contact is very likely. You might have to lift a little on entry under drafting but if you turn hard enough, it won't be needed.

Bus Stop - Turning in harder for the tight right-hander pays off for the following left-hander. The rumble strips will save you time but remember to keep two wheels on the tarmac to keep it legal.
Agreed with all except these two.
Rivage - I brake a little early and soft, staring around the rumble strips to the left. Ease the car in and aim the car to go a little high on the middle of the corner. If done correctly, you have the perfect angle for the exit and it can be done with WOT without concerns about going off as the rears will spin a little keeping you on the tarmac. It's a bit hard to pull off with rear-biased brakes but very easy if your brakes are set forwards.
This one I also enter wide and slower over faster, but to hug the inside through the turn. Important to remember this is a full blown U-turn, so while you could double apex and hit the right spot for perfection, the more accurate and generally faster line to me is hugging the inside, and finding the right moment or marker to time your exit at or close to WOT. (Remember, it's not long to the next corner at all, exit speed is fairly meaningless here)

Fagnes - I brake just after the start of the rumble strips to the left down to 80 mph. In this case, it's faster to carry as much speed as possible through the right-hander, regardless of where the car ends up before the left-hander. There is enough grip on the left side that you can turn in from there and still be fine. However, you will have to lift sooner than if your car is on the right side where a slight lift may only be required.
I brake at the start or just past the start of the rumbles on the left, but make sure to aim wide right, leaving me a faster cornering speed for the following left, and subsequently, higher speed all the way to the next tricky right hander.

I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time.:lol:
 
Agreed with all except these two.
This one I also enter wide and slower over faster, but to hug the inside through the turn. Important to remember this is a full blown U-turn, so while you could double apex and hit the right spot for perfection, the more accurate and generally faster line to me is hugging the inside, and finding the right moment or marker to time your exit at or close to WOT. (Remember, it's not long to the next corner at all, exit speed is fairly meaningless here)
Guess I'm more comfortable double apexing that corner than hugging the inside. My car got too loose on me when I tried doing that and I also ended up playing with the throttle far too much on exit.
I brake at the start or just past the start of the rumbles on the left, but make sure to aim wide right, leaving me a faster cornering speed for the following left, and subsequently, higher speed all the way to the next tricky right hander.
For a while, that was how I attacked the corner but I had trouble staying wide to the right and I had passing attempts made to my inside. I switched my approach after watching other drivers attack it the way I described and ended up being faster.

This is one track where I really wish I could change brake bias on the fly. Some corners are easier for me with brakes set forward and vice versa so my lap times end up being the same no matter which one I choose.
 
Well, don't want to have all my practice time go to waste so here's my notes for Spa.

trackmap-spa_420x446.jpg


La Source - It's better to sacrifice some entry speed to make a sharper entry to the apex and get the power down faster and have the wheel nice and straight. You do NOT want to go wide here because you WILL spin if you nip the small patch of grass on the exit. If your car is heading there, shove the car to the extra tarmac and let off for a moment. It's safer.

Eau Rouge - Smooth turning equates to better speed. If the speedo dips below 120 mph, you're turning too hard. Under draft conditions, though, a lot more turning may be required but it's still WOT.

Les Combes - A good braking point is the start of the rumble strips to the left. I suggest dropping the car to 70 mph and hug the car all the way to the right and get two wheels on the strips as that helps straighten the car. For the left hander, lift off the throttle and then get back on to around the 60-80% range depending on your comfort level. The key is not max speed but not letting the car drift too far out to the right because you must be all the way to the left before your turn in for the final right hander which comes up quickly. That corner is WOT but you will go off on exit if you do not get the turn-in angle correctly. You can cut in a bit on the inside and still come out okay.

Rivage - I brake a little early and soft, staring around the rumble strips to the left. Ease the car in and aim the car to go a little high on the middle of the corner. If done correctly, you have the perfect angle for the exit and it can be done with WOT without concerns about going off as the rears will spin a little keeping you on the tarmac. It's a bit hard to pull off with rear-biased brakes but very easy if your brakes are set forwards.

T11 - Use every bit of road and hug the strips to the right before letting off the throttle completely and aim for the apex but I wouldn't recommend touching it with any of the tires. A touch of brake at turn-in may help rotate the car more. The car is savable if you go wide on exit.

Pouhon - The key is actually not so much entry speed but being able to apply full throttle and not having to crank any extra wheel after the initial turn in. Yes, you can enter at or just above 100 mph but you'll end up going wide and scrubbing off speed trying to get back in line. I suggest braking straight and get the car down to around 95-97 mph. A good barometer for attacking Pouhon correctly is having the gear change light come on just as you exit the long curve.

Fagnes - I brake just after the start of the rumble strips to the left down to 80 mph. In this case, it's faster to carry as much speed as possible through the right-hander, regardless of where the car ends up before the left-hander. There is enough grip on the left side that you can turn in from there and still be fine. However, you will have to lift sooner than if your car is on the right side where a slight lift may only be required.

T15 -This corner can be taken at around 70 mph. I suggest that you smooth out your inputs for consistency rather than squeezing out every mph possible. You do not want to go too wide and hit the strips on exit at a bad angle because they can upset the car.

T16- A WOT corner but don't sleep on it, especially if you're drafting someone. The car can push wide here.

T18- A WOT corner but you'll need all the room to make it. Don't slack on entry or you'll be on the extra tarmac on the outside on exit. I do not suggest going two-wide here because contact is very likely. You might have to lift a little on entry under drafting but if you turn hard enough, it won't be needed.

Bus Stop - Turning in harder for the tight right-hander pays off for the following left-hander. The rumble strips will save you time but remember to keep two wheels on the tarmac to keep it legal.
Thanks, I needed that.
 
Hey Turbo,

This might not surprise you, but I'm going to officially withdraw from this season :guilty:. I've missed 2 races so far, and I have a commitment this Sunday that will prevent me from racing again.

This series is still as epic as ever, and certainly has some of the cleanest, fastest GT5 racers around 👍 Although, I have to admit that I wasn't super keen on the Roadster TC on sport softs as it's a bit too much grip for my current tastes. I did really want to like it though, as I had an absolute blast in seasons 1 & 2 :D

Sorry for taking up a spot when I wasn't 100% committed to the series, that's really not the person I wanted to be :(

We'll see what season 4 brings, and thanks again for all the effort you put in to making this one of the best run online race series around :bowdown:
 
Maybe next season offer two different tire compound racing. Say two on current and one on sport Hards or whatever people wanting harder tired decide.

I actually may have interest in harder tires myself.
 
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Maybe next season offer two different tire compound racing. Say two on current and one on sport Hards or whatever people wanting harder tired decide.

I actually may have interest in harder tires myself.

We want any tires used in the race whether it be rain tires during the race when it's raining
 
That's the old Hard Dog Challenge. Will change for next season almost completely.

Edit: Just clicked on the link. That is NOT the Hard Dog Challenge. :lol:

Sorry I thought thats what you were talking about, So what is the hard dog challenge then lol
 
Ok that's what I thought.I need to get a podium finish to have a shot.I had some good speed but finishes dont show it.The last race was a blown opportunity and blew it.So I fired crew chief and pit stop crew.
 
My knowledge of GT tracks is very limited and I need a couple of hours of practice at pretty much any track. W/o practice my chances are nil, so little reason to show-up.

What says everyone else won't be in the same boat as you? Honestly not the best reason, IMO. Doesn't hurt to give it a shot.

Edit: What if I gave you guys a list of 5 tracks that it will be chosen from?
 
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Edit: What if I gave you guys a list of 5 tracks that it will be chosen from?

Why keep the track a secret? Why not let us vote on the track? We like realism here but I've never heard of a series in real life that keeps the track a secret until race day.
 
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