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[Blitz24]

I was wondering what you meant by the old boys til' I saw you mention Ecclestone, lol.

Klare Worte von Bernie Ecclestone: Hamilton hätte für Schumi abtreten müssen

Wenn Lewis Hamilton den WM-Kampf gewinnt, ist er alleiniger Rekordhalter. Für Ecclestone bleibt trotzdem Schumi der Größte aller Zeiten.

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Yeah, I saw him speaking as if Max is still a child, claiming he only has a few years in the sport. Iirc, he's got 7 years behind him, basically half the amount Lewis does. He should be well adjusted by now to what the sport entails.

To be fair, I don't think Bernie is fully cognizant of what the sport entails these days.

EDIT: Cursed by my failure to grammar appropriately.

 

[O604]

I was wondering what you meant by the old boys til' I saw you mention Ecclestone, lol.

Sorry I should have used "old, old, old boys".

See also, Jackie Stewart. https://www.the-sun.com/sport/motorsport/4023758/jackie-stewart-f1-lewis-hamilton-max-verstappen/

 

[McLaren]

Sorry I should have used "old, old, old boys".

See also, Jackie Stewart. https://www.the-sun.com/sport/motorsport/4023758/jackie-stewart-f1-lewis-hamilton-max-verstappen/

Jackie's approach is one I've seen a lot of, so I can't fault him for wanting to see another champion. The upside is that Lewis is actually working hard for the record-breaking title, esp. with the task of winning the last 4 races just to clinch it.

 

[Liquid]

Not every driver sees the sport, and their time in it, the same way.

Rosberg retired because he felt he had nothing left to achieve having won the big one and wanted to spend time with his family.
Stewart retired because he felt the sport was too dangerous and was tired of the politics.
Mansell retired the instant he was in uncompetitive machinery.
Häkkinen is on sabbatical. He just needed a break.

Rosberg was still guaranteed competitive machinery.
Mansell didn't feel the sport was too dangerous.
Stewart never contemplated a sabbatical.

You can't pigeon-hole every driver as "well they should do it this way" or "they should only retire when.....". If they want to continue racing as long as someone will hire them, they're more than entitled to. If they want to quit whilst they're ahead, some people will be annoyed thinking the driver owes them, but that driver is allowed to do so.

 

[PaMu1337]

Yes, by completing 90% of the race distance.

Which ever driver is able to freewheel their stricken vehicle further after an incident/failure decides who is classified higher than another, all other things being equal (same number of laps completed, no penalties).

I don't think we've had a race in many years in which there less classified finishers than available points-paying positions. The 2005 United States GP had 6 starters and that worked out great if you had Bridgestones.

Detroit 1984 would be the last one with a full field; exactly six cars finished, but Brundle was disqualified from 2nd place a few months later. (All of Tyrrell's finishes in 1984 were removed from the championship, and subsequent finishes were later adjusted.) So nobody finished 6th.

The 1982 San Marino GP featured 14 starters and 5 actual finishers due to most FOCA-aligned teams sitting out in protest. (The lone non-FISA team? Tyrrell...many of their sponsors were brought in from Michele Alboreto, so Ken didn't want to annoy the sponsors' home race.) Also, Ferrari won but later suffered from a plague upon both houses.

The last normal full-field race without disqualifications, but did not award all available points to finishers, would be 1970 Spanish GP. If you can count the inferno that consumed Jackie Oliver's car (mercifully, not Mr. Oliver) as "normal". After all, he'd would later be involved with Shadow, then Arrows, but most importantly, there's a vague link to Super Aguri.

And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Monaco_Grand_Prix is a good example of non-finishers still being classified and getting points for completing enough of the race

 

[Pupik]

And https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Monaco_Grand_Prix is a good example of non-finishers still being classified and getting points for completing enough of the race

Ironically, the first race with the 90% rule.

It used to be that a driver failing to finish the last lap was a non-finisher, but a still-running driver that was many more laps down was a classified finisher. (I think two-thirds of the distance was the old rule for classifications.)

So you had oddities like Ascari and Marimon being non-finishers by crashing out of the 1953 Italian GP on the last lap, despite being ahead of several other "finishers" on laps competed.

 

[BrainsBush]

PS Same pic also with Bottas circling around (anti-)social media.

 

[Famine]

It'd really suck if one of this weekend's stewards was an ex-F1 driver who said something with racist undertones in support of Max Verstappen.



Oh.

 

[-Fred-]

This could potentially be the very last time we see a HAM-VER-BOT combination podium.

 

[PeterJB]

I suppose the question is: Who will become the next Glock or Petrov? Will Lewis or Max be far enough back for that to ever be an issue anyway?

My money's on Vettel. Would be his gift to Max to allow him to do what he couldn't.

 

[McLaren]

He would be doing it more for Michael.

 

[GingerBredMan]

It seems unlikely that anyone other than Lewis or Max can impact the outcome apart from just outright crashing in to them.

 

[MustangManiac]

To be fair, I don't think Bernie is fully cognizant of what the sport entails these days.

EDIT: Cursed by my failure to grammar appropriately.

To be fair, I don't think Bernie is fully cognizant.

Fixed that for you, you're welcome

 

[Liquid]

It'd really suck if one of this weekend's stewards was an ex-F1 driver who said something with racist undertones in support of Max Verstappen.



Oh.

I might just be ignorant of an ignorance, or very forgiving, but I assume or can only hope that a lot of people don't know the connotations or background of the phrase Great White Hope. Without forethought, it's "just" a snappy if misspoken phrase.

If anything, Verstappen is the Great Oranje Hope...?

 

[pumaATTACK]

This goes 1 of 2 ways.

Either a great race and the champion is well deserved.....

Or they crash out and its a super anti climatic win

 

[daan]

I might just be ignorant of an ignorance, or very forgiving, but I assume or can only hope that a lot of people don't know the connotations or background of the phrase Great White Hope.

Is it something to do with sharks?

 

[Liquid]

Is it something to do with sharks?

That's a great white nope.

 

[NLxAROSA]

That's a great white nope.

Unless the sharks were skiing, in which case it's a great white slope.

 

[Pupik]

Unless the sharks were skiing, in which case it's a great white slope.

1990 Daytona 500 was won by the Great White Cope.

 

[Liquid]

1990 Daytona 500 was won by the Great White Cope.

The Bishop of Rome in his most serene clothing is the Great White Pope.

 

[Grand Prix]

The Great White North? Maybe, eh? Was a tweet for Canadian GP eh?

 

[daan]

Does that make Mazepin the great white grope.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Does that make Mazepin the great white grope.

Nah, he's not great

 

[Tyrone B]

Does that make Mazepin the great white grope.

Nah, he's more of a great white dope.

 

[Jezza819]

The Great White North? Maybe, eh? Was a tweet for Canadian GP eh?

Take off eh!!!

I've still got this CD. I Love Bob & Doug. 🤣🤣

 

[MagpieRacer]

It seems unlikely that anyone other than Lewis or Max can impact the outcome apart from just outright crashing in to them.

Outside of mechanical failures yeah. Although didn’t Rosberg get absolutely launched by a backmarker one year through the fast section at the start of sector 3? Stranger things have happened.

Hopefully it will be a straight fight with no outside interference.

In other news, race will be made free to air on Channel 4 thanks to a deal struck with Sky.


Apparently it will have Channel 4s own build up but the race coverage will be from Sky, so no Alex Jacques commentary.

 

[ScottPuss20]

My money's on Vettel. Would be his gift to Max to allow him to do what he couldn't.

It's going to be Alonso

 

[-Fred-]

We're already halfway through the length of last year's thread pages-wise, and the weekend hasn't even started.

 

[Samus]

We're gonna be hearing "Stay off the kerbs" again a lot this weekend, they used the Losail style harsh kerbs in the remodel and somehow nobody told Pirelli.

A nasty surprise awaits the teams and Pirelli in Abu Dhabi. Losail-like curbs were used after the renovations at Yas Marina. As Pirelli was not warned about this, there is a new uncertainty about the weekend.

 

[Imari]

It seems unlikely that anyone other than Lewis or Max can impact the outcome apart from just outright crashing in to them.

The stewards and race director will dictate the outcome as they please, thank you very much. This whole business of racers deciding championships on the track is ridiculous.