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imagine actually liking the verstappens lmao
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"We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing" -FIA
Seriously **** these people and their corrupt bs. This is wrong and they ****ing know it. How can you call yourselves a legitimate sport when you don't even follow your own procedure? This reeks to high heaven. This sport is in going to be in big trouble going forward.
Today is a black mark on the sport.
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Max Verstappen did not do anything wrong in this race. No, not even the lap one overtake.
Verstappen did not have the outright race pace today and he was lucky in that he had the appropriate track position and time gap to pit under the safety car but that sort of luck is what modern Formula 1 is built upon. For e v e r y driver. Specifically focusing on the end of the race itself, to penalise Verstappen, or any driver, for a potential prodecdural error on the part of the race officials when he himself as a driver did nothing wrong would be extremely unfair.
Edit: Criticism of the race officials and the sport's administration, and punishments and penalties thereof, are a different matter, which I'd have no problem agreeing to. It's been a horrible year for stewarding and it absolutely must be sorted out before next season.
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It's hilarious. Whenever it's Hamilton winning, it's always the car or he got lucky. Make no mistake, I'm definitely not saying he isn't #blessed but it's always one or the other with a certain subset of people and never anything in-between. When it's Max however, it's always raw, unadulterated talent.
I'm being reminded why I stopped taking part in discussions here.
I'm being reminded why I stopped taking part in discussions here.
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Not surprised Red Bull fans still do nothing but bring up Lewis' past wins & luck even after Max was literally placed in the most ideal scenario for the championship title on the line.
There be no more of this "Lewis is lucky" nonsense without gross hypocrisy from RB fans.
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Congratulations to Max Verstappen on winning his first F1 World Championship - so well deserved, and a fantastic season too.
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Uhh, aren't even most Max fans saying he got very lucky here?
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It's a huge achievement on Mercedes' part and will probably remain the ultimate F1 car but I'm more interested in driving ability deciding titles than pure engineering. The fact Racing Point could just copy the previous car last year and be challenging up top isn't good for the sport in my opinion. I think were it not for Schumacher's record people would be less emotional about this result though - that's really the big thing here at play in my opinion. Masi has to go though. I'd be astounded if he's still there next year.
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I think that's pretty much the point of it. Having already had Masi blowing a hole in one of their feet, they didn't quite feel like pulling the trigger on the other one and can now instead leave it up to some very expensive lawyers (which Red Bull apparently doesn't have) and blame any outcome on them instead.
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Getting extremely lucky in one race isn't quite the same as having the fastest car by a county mile for entire championships I'd say. Look, I don't think this year shows that Max is a better driver than Lewis but I don't think Lewis would have had such an easy run in '19 or '20 if the car had been less competitive. 2018 really showed Lewis' strength in my opinion. Vettel's my favourite driver on the grid but in spite of having the best car he evidently got spooked and never recovered his pace after the Hockenheim crash.
I just want a return to properly competitive racing in F1 with less disparity between the cars. Hoping for a proper fight between multiple drivers/teams next year.
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Sensible ones probably are, absolutely. My problem isn't even with Max. He won fair and square, it's not his fault the FIA is a literal circus tent. Again, congrats to him. He's still way too abrasive/aggressive on track and I'd imagine it's only going to get worse from hereon but he does deserve the win. No question.
Won't get into the specifics of this and last race as it's pointless now. All I want is for Masi to kick rocks and never officiate an F1 race again. Not even in his own thoughts.
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If I was Hamilton, I would probably be thinking about the magic brake moment at Baku.
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Looking back, Baku was really a massive moment for both teams. Had Max's tyre not gone we probably wouldn't have gone into this race with so much at stake. Same for Lewis and the magic brake. Essentially, Max's crash hampered both of them really as neither was able to get ahead. Were it not for the SC, Lewis wouldn't have made that error.
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When that "one race" is the final race with the incident taking place on the final lap for the Championship b/c the race director decided he should get a fair shot at Lewis, but no one is afforded that opportunity within' their own race:
Yes, it's the exact same amount of luck everyone is convinced Lewis has.
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So at which race next season do we see the airplane crash (as Brundle terms it)? If Verstappen has a car at the pointy end he's going to drive in same stupidly aggressive way he has all this season. The other drivers know that now and any who are his direct competitors next year would be stupid not to call his bluff and just turn in rather than avoid the accident. I'm certain if Hamilton is up there again next season he won't put up with the same **** from Max he has this year.
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