Formula 1 Heineken Dutch Grand Prix 2022Formula 1

[toastet]

Could be but without the ability to overtake in Zandvoort quali will show some more.

 

[IcySlivers]

Hamilton pulling 3rd in FP2
LETS GO

 

[NICKname]

Could be but without the ability to overtake in Zandvoort quali will show some more.

"Without the ability the overtake"? Zandvoort had more overtakes than Monza and Mexico last year. Not to mention Hungary, where overtaking has been very possible this year. And that was with a shorter DRS zone.

 

[toastet]

"Without the ability the overtake"? Zandvoort had more overtakes than Monza and Mexico last year. Not to mention Hungary, where overtaking has been very possible this year. And that was with a shorter DRS zone.

Not sure which race you saw but equalish cars couldn't overtake each other. Max started P1, Ham P2, Bot P3, Gas P4, Lec P5 and they finished in the same order. The only overtake was Max after pitting Lap 22 he overtook Bottas on Lap 30 (Bottas on 30 Lap old tires). Wow.
Perez got some action from P20 but even he only finished 8th. There was some kind of action in Lap 1 from Alonso but afterwards nothing happened for the frontrunners. The only exception Bottas accidently took the fastest lap after failing to slow down enough in the last sector and Lewis had to pit again to catch the flap in the last lap.
Monza and Mexico are in most cases overtakeless snoozefests due to extreme weak DRS.

 

[GroupB]

Did anyone witness the bizarre Sky moment in P2 where Croft threw it to Ted and Ted refused to do his report, suggesting it was a good time to take a break instead. Croft then accused him of trying to produce the show and asked him to please commence his report. At this point an already awkward situation got even moreso as Ted basically pouted like a first-grader and refused to do his job. Eventually the actual producers took mercy and did cut to commercial. I have never seen anything like that before on professional television.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Did anyone witness the bizarre Sky moment in P2 where Croft threw it to Ted and Ted refused to do his report, suggesting it was a good time to take a break instead. Croft then accused him of trying to produce the show and asked him to please commence his report. At this point an already awkward situation got even moreso as Ted basically pouted like a first-grader and refused to do his job. Eventually the actual producers took mercy and did cut to commercial. I have never seen anything like that before on professional television.

As the article mentions, it does sound a bit like crossed wires. It seems like Ted was told they were going to break.

David Croft and Ted Kravitz argue live on air during Dutch GP practice

If there wasn’t enough drama off the track during the first day of the Dutch Grand Prix meeting, Sky Sports F1 mainstays David Croft and Ted Kravitz had an on-air spat

www.dailystar.co.uk

 

[NICKname]

Not sure which race you saw but equalish cars couldn't overtake each other. Max started P1, Ham P2, Bot P3, Gas P4, Lec P5 and they finished in the same order. The only overtake was Max after pitting Lap 22 he overtook Bottas on Lap 30 (Bottas on 30 Lap old tires). Wow.
Perez got some action from P20 but even he only finished 8th. There was some kind of action in Lap 1 from Alonso but afterwards nothing happened for the frontrunners. The only exception Bottas accidently took the fastest lap after failing to slow down enough in the last sector and Lewis had to pit again to catch the flap in the last lap.
Monza and Mexico are in most cases overtakeless snoozefests due to extreme weak DRS.

No part of this is relevant. No one would say that overtaking is impossible at Monza or Mexico, so if Zandvoort had more overtakes than those tracks last year it clearly isn't impossible at Zandvoort either. Add to that the fact that the 2022 regulations seriously improved racing at Hungary, a similarly tight track, and that Zandvoort has a much longer DRS zone now, and overtaking will definitely not be impossible. Just hard.

And that's not to say it'll be a good race, though. Overtaking was easy at Spa, and that race was plain bad. The amount of overtakes in a race doesn't have much to do with how good that race is.

 

[AshenGraey]

FP3 is making me even more hopeful. All 3 teams are so close...we could get a genuine 3 way fight for the qualy.

 

[Dennisch]

By the looks of it, there are now at least 50k people more at Zandvoort. And it was already ridiculously crowded yesterday.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Alpine is looking pretty good now. They could mix it up with the top 3 teams.

 

[PeterJB]

Gap from 1st-19th: 1 second

Gap from 19th-20th: 1 second

🤦‍♂️

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Red flag for flare on track

 

[NotThePrez]

It only takes one asshole...

Also holy crap there are indeed a bunch of pigeons on the track.

 

[PaMu1337]

I hope that whoever threw that flare will be banned for life from any event

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Or was it the pigeons? One or the other or both

 

[PaMu1337]

Not the kind of lap you'd expect from Stroll

 

[Liquid]

I feel bad for Ricciardo - whenever a driver is announced mid-season that they will be dropped at the end of the season, I imagine finding the motivation can be extremely difficult. Especially at a time when you might be underperforming anyway, it would be very easy to just give up and phone it in.

 

[NotThePrez]

Q3 for Schumacher and Stroll!

 

[NLxAROSA]

The person responsible for the flare has been identified and kicked out.

Good, now never let them in again.

 

[PaMu1337]

Technical issues for Stroll

 

[MagpieRacer]

How convenient of Perez.

 

[PaMu1337]

How convenient of Perez.

If you're implying that was on purpose, no way

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Ouch, first was probably settled, but there was still a chance for a shake up.

 

[NICKname]

Perez would've definitely been a championship contender if Red Bull hadn't made him let Verstappen go through in Spain. Definitely.

 

[MagpieRacer]

If you're implying that was on purpose, no way

Did I imply it was on purpose? I said convenient, not purposeful.

Also ironic that something Max has criticised in the past, I'm sure he won't be complaining about it this time at all.

Was kind of hoping that last flare stayed on the track to bring out a red flag, would have been 'simply lovely' to see his own fans cost him Pole.

 

[PaMu1337]

Did I imply it was on purpose? I said convenient, not purposeful.

Also ironic that something Max has criticised in the past, I'm sure he won't be complaining about it this time at all.

Was kind of hoping that last flare stayed on the track to bring out a red flag, would have been 'simply lovely' to see his own fans cost him Pole.

Hence the word 'imply', if you said it was purposeful, it wouldn't have been an implication. And the way you said it did really seem to imply it.

Of course Max is not complaining, as it didn't hinder him. Everyone who did get hindered I'm sure complained about it, whether you heard it or not. This has nothing to do with Max, and is not ironic at all. Every driver does that. You just hear more from Max since he's more of a contender, and they let you hear his messages more often.

 

[GroupB]

They better get a handle on the flare-throwing or people are going to be creating safety cars every time they think their driver needs help.

 

[NLxAROSA]

They better get a handle on the flare-throwing or people are going to be creating safety cars every time they think their driver needs help.

Yup, need to nip this in the bud as quickly as possible. No hoolligans in F1 please. Do this -> lifetime ban from any F1 event.

 

[PeterJB]

Here are the updated qualifying averages:

Leclerc +0.096
Verstappen +0.205
Sainz +0.273
Perez +0.567
Russell +0.888
Hamilton +1.066
Norris +1.129
Alonso +1.284
Ocon +1.353
Gasly +1.612
Bottas +1.635
Ricciardo +1.709
Magnussen +1.774
Tsunoda +1.777
Schumacher +2.013
Vettel +2.100
Albon +2.212
Stroll +2.223
Latifi +2.986

 

[pumaATTACK]

Shame all cars didn’t get a last lap for pole.