Formula Gran Turismo...READ thread, TUNE car, POST result

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It has taken me a lot practice time in the FGT and I'm starting to like driving it. I hated driving it at first because my first attempt at driving the FGT around Fuji was a nightmare, I couldn't keep it pointed in the right direction. Finally with your setup in post #7 and a lot of practice laps I feel that I should be able to win at Fuji, I have even tried the other tracks yet.

My first attempt after practicing I was hold 3rd on the 10th lap but one mistake sent me off the track and back into 11th. I fought back and finished in 9th. My second time out and no mistakes and I place 2nd, 3 seconds off the leader. With a little more practice I should be able to win this even.

I'll be doing a lot of practice lap before I attempt a Championship run. Thanks for the great setup!
 
Just got to Cote d'Azur and was about to say nice settings, but I can only get 5 second leads, I had sports hard tyres on the thing... It's no wonder I hadn't got anywhere...
 
This setting worked well for me at Fuji and Indy.

Aids: Only traction control at 2
Tyres: Racing hards
LSD: 15/20/20
Brake Bias: 5/3
Toe: -0.10/0.10
Aero: 70/87
Ride height: 0/0
Trans: 242 mph
Springs: 14.8/12.8
Dampers: 6
Roll Bars: 4
Camber: 2.0/2.0

I won narrowly at Fuji and beat Indy by 4 seconds.
 
What's with the demolition derby with the AI in these races? I'm getting hammered on the courses. I've golded every course but Suzuka, and can't seem to get that one even completed. I end up in the sand at least twice each lap, unless I'm in the back . I keep getting rammed off the course.

Just a rant, the tune is good (Tune #1). A bit twitchy on the front end, but manageable. I don't want to give up the good steering to possibly tighten up the front end so, I guess, there's not much to complain about.

Letting the engine do a lot of the braking is your best friend in these races. The car is so light that it works really well. I was skeptical of the brake biasing in the tune, but when coupled with letting the engine do a lot of the work, it's just about perfect.

I love the competitive nature of these races, but I HATE the ramming by the AI. It's gotten to the point where I stop racing and just try to put them into the sand, or a wall so I can get a lead. Bumpin' is racin', but ramming isn't.
 
Ran a 5:40:562 this morning on Nordschelife with your tune, Jorday. Except I lowered the spring rates to 14.7/15.8. I might even go a tad lower. It just really seemed to come off any time you hit the bumper at all. I'm sure I could get close to 5:30 with this setup, I was a bit sloppy in some places.
 
Been battling the Formula GT series all weekend (about 25 total hours of controller twisting and thumb mashing), and the best I can do so far is bronze...Aside from usual gripes about no ability to save progress or qualify, I'm getting pissed because this is one of the most arbitrary and needlessly difficult events that PD has ever cooked up...And unlike previous hard PD events, I don't seem to be getting any closer to gold the more I do it...

This is the unbreakable pattern of events which happens EVERY ***** time -- I've tried different setups and strategies, and it always ends up the same:

I know I need 5 wins of 6 events to clinch gold...Fuji, Indy and Nurburg I can win with my eyes closed (and yes I do cheat), but the other three just have flat-out weird random things happening, for instance:

I can never seem to win both Monaco and Monza in the same series--In one race or the other, the AI cars ALWAYS crash me (In Monza it's always into the kitty litter, and Monaco I get turned around and then bumped by the 8 cars following me) -- I then spend the next 10 laps chasing like a madman and never catching up or getting PITed again...So instead of 5 wins going into Suzuka, I have 4 plus a zero-point finish and need a top-3 finish to win gold -- Of course it's in heavy rain and even though I'm on full rain tires ALL the cars beat me to the first turn, and even after they stop to change tires I'm 30+ seconds behind...How is anyone supposed to win this? Is there a totally different tune for the rain?

I promised myself I wouldn't turn this into too much of a rage rant, but can the AI cars at least pretend to adhere to the laws of physics? Can the same aero/engine/traction limitations that apply to me also apply to THEM?? Especially in a game celebrated for its authentic realism? I could go on, but you know the rest...

The settings that seem to work best for me, lifted from another post -- Any tweaks are appreciated:

Downforce 70/90
Diff 15/45/55
Transmission 242 (205 for Monaco)
Ride height -5/-5
Spring rate 17.0/17.5
Damper ext 7/8
Damper comp 5/6
Anti-roll bars 7/7
Camber 2.5/0.6
Toe -0.15/-0.12
Brake balance 4/1

I have a DS3 and use the nannies after a lot of experimenting (Please spare me the obligatory "Learn how to drive!" -quip:idea:) because I decided to sacrifice overall speed to nail an stable, consistent lap every time to build up my rhythm (Which I usually do when the AI isn't ramming me off in the turns...)

Driving line-On
ABS-1
TCS-1
ASM-On
Skid recovery-Usually off, but on for rain
Steering assist-Usually off, but on for rain

Any strategies or ideas I haven't considered yet before I set this game on fire?
 
Been battling the Formula GT series all weekend (about 25 total hours of controller twisting and thumb mashing), and the best I can do so far is bronze...Aside from usual gripes about no ability to save progress or qualify, I'm getting pissed because this is one of the most arbitrary and needlessly difficult events that PD has ever cooked up...And unlike previous hard PD events, I don't seem to be getting any closer to gold the more I do it...

This is the unbreakable pattern of events which happens EVERY ***** time -- I've tried different setups and strategies, and it always ends up the same:

I know I need 5 wins of 6 events to clinch gold...Fuji, Indy and Nurburg I can win with my eyes closed (and yes I do cheat), but the other three just have flat-out weird random things happening, for instance:

I can never seem to win both Monaco and Monza in the same series--In one race or the other, the AI cars ALWAYS crash me (In Monza it's always into the kitty litter, and Monaco I get turned around and then bumped by the 8 cars following me) -- I then spend the next 10 laps chasing like a madman and never catching up or getting PITed again...So instead of 5 wins going into Suzuka, I have 4 plus a zero-point finish and need a top-3 finish to win gold -- Of course it's in heavy rain and even though I'm on full rain tires ALL the cars beat me to the first turn, and even after they stop to change tires I'm 30+ seconds behind...How is anyone supposed to win this? Is there a totally different tune for the rain?

I promised myself I wouldn't turn this into too much of a rage rant, but can the AI cars at least pretend to adhere to the laws of physics? Can the same aero/engine/traction limitations that apply to me also apply to THEM?? Especially in a game celebrated for its authentic realism? I could go on, but you know the rest...

The settings that seem to work best for me, lifted from another post -- Any tweaks are appreciated:

Downforce 70/90
Diff 15/45/55
Transmission 242 (205 for Monaco)
Ride height -5/-5
Spring rate 17.0/17.5
Damper ext 7/8
Damper comp 5/6
Anti-roll bars 7/7
Camber 2.5/0.6
Toe -0.15/-0.12
Brake balance 4/1

I have a DS3 and use the nannies after a lot of experimenting (Please spare me the obligatory "Learn how to drive!" -quip:idea:) because I decided to sacrifice overall speed to nail an stable, consistent lap every time to build up my rhythm (Which I usually do when the AI isn't ramming me off in the turns...)

Driving line-On
ABS-1
TCS-1
ASM-On
Skid recovery-Usually off, but on for rain
Steering assist-Usually off, but on for rain

Any strategies or ideas I haven't considered yet before I set this game on fire?



If you set skid recovery on you should win the races easily. It's cheap, but it works. Might as well throw all of the tunes out the window though if you do.
 
If you set skid recovery on you should win the races easily. It's cheap, but it works. Might as well throw all of the tunes out the window though if you do.

But for whatever reason I can't make it work in heavy rain?? The car fishtails like crazy...
 
Been battling the Formula GT series all weekend (about 25 total hours of controller twisting and thumb mashing), and the best I can do so far is bronze...Aside from usual gripes about no ability to save progress or qualify, I'm getting pissed because this is one of the most arbitrary and needlessly difficult events that PD has ever cooked up...And unlike previous hard PD events, I don't seem to be getting any closer to gold the more I do it...

This is the unbreakable pattern of events which happens EVERY ***** time -- I've tried different setups and strategies, and it always ends up the same:

I know I need 5 wins of 6 events to clinch gold...Fuji, Indy and Nurburg I can win with my eyes closed (and yes I do cheat), but the other three just have flat-out weird random things happening, for instance:

I can never seem to win both Monaco and Monza in the same series--In one race or the other, the AI cars ALWAYS crash me (In Monza it's always into the kitty litter, and Monaco I get turned around and then bumped by the 8 cars following me) -- I then spend the next 10 laps chasing like a madman and never catching up or getting PITed again...So instead of 5 wins going into Suzuka, I have 4 plus a zero-point finish and need a top-3 finish to win gold -- Of course it's in heavy rain and even though I'm on full rain tires ALL the cars beat me to the first turn, and even after they stop to change tires I'm 30+ seconds behind...How is anyone supposed to win this? Is there a totally different tune for the rain?

I promised myself I wouldn't turn this into too much of a rage rant, but can the AI cars at least pretend to adhere to the laws of physics? Can the same aero/engine/traction limitations that apply to me also apply to THEM?? Especially in a game celebrated for its authentic realism? I could go on, but you know the rest...

The settings that seem to work best for me, lifted from another post -- Any tweaks are appreciated:

Downforce 70/90
Diff 15/45/55
Transmission 242 (205 for Monaco)
Ride height -5/-5
Spring rate 17.0/17.5
Damper ext 7/8
Damper comp 5/6
Anti-roll bars 7/7
Camber 2.5/0.6
Toe -0.15/-0.12
Brake balance 4/1

I have a DS3 and use the nannies after a lot of experimenting (Please spare me the obligatory "Learn how to drive!" -quip:idea:) because I decided to sacrifice overall speed to nail an stable, consistent lap every time to build up my rhythm (Which I usually do when the AI isn't ramming me off in the turns...)

Driving line-On
ABS-1
TCS-1
ASM-On
Skid recovery-Usually off, but on for rain
Steering assist-Usually off, but on for rain

Any strategies or ideas I haven't considered yet before I set this game on fire?

I did that final race in the rain. I accidentally slid into the pit lane on my first lap. I was forced to pit, and just hit OK. It prompted me to put rain tires on. That was a mistake. You can't do anything with them. I pitted the next lap and put racing softs on. What a difference. I was 1:40 back on the 12 lap and came back to win the race by 5 seconds. I think the other cars have the wrong tires which makes catching them possible. You have to drive smart though and pick your spots when to go and when to be cautious.
 
Really, I just beat my best time by 26 sec?


Far from a perfect lap still, but I just managed 5:14:942 on Nordschleife. That's my best time so far, but I've yet to really try and work the Ferrari F1's.


Aero: max/max
Trans: 249
LSD: 12/25/15
Height: -5/0
Rate: 13.7/14.8
Ext: 6/8
Com: 5/7
Roll: 5/6
Cam: -2.5/-1.5
Toe: -0.25/-0.15
Brakes: 4/1
Racing Soft Tires

Only ABS 1
 
My God Suzuka is pissing me off. I've gotten my times down per lap to be able to easily beat the race, but of all the races this one seems the least forgiving. One momentary lapse of concentration and you're in the sand, and then in last place because you can't recover in sand in any kind of reasonable time.

Finally get back to a reasonable position and you're battling the AI, and getting pushed into the damn sand again. Occasionally, you get a fleeting moment of glee as you see an AI car spin off into the sand.

I've never driven Formula 1, but I can't imagine that real racing involves this much slamming into each other. I watch and these guys are beating on each other as well.
 
Ive golded every other race (except endurances) and even the Sebastian Loeb Challenge and NASCAR Nurburgring Event, but for the life of me I cannot seem to get a handle on this Formula GT...:nervous: I dont know what happened, could be because Im using the DS3 and its hard to get the power down with the X button, but wtf this is irritating.

The FGT was awesome in the previous GT game, i don't know what happened. :grumpy:

Edit: Did any of you guys do a chassis reconditioning when you bought the FGT? I rebuilt the motor but not the chassis, and I have to rebuild the motor again just from practicing and still no win.
 
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This is a hot post for Formula GT, but the tunes don't work for me at all.

This guy's did - won everything the first try, including Cote de Azur (aka Monaco)


downforce
F 70
R 90
Gear
top speed 242
LSD
15/45/55
suspension
height
5/5 10/10 for bumpy
spring rate 17.4/17.5
dampers E 8/8
dampers C 6/6
roll bars 7/7
camber angle F 2.0 R 1.0
Toe angle F 0.00 R -0.20
Brake balance 4/1
 
Awesome! I just came in 2nd place and DNF the last two races. Forgot to put rain tires on the next to last race and left them on the last race since I saw it raining on the loading screen... Should be an easy gold next time! Thank you so much!

On a side note, on Cote, I came in second after being in 12th on the 7th lap. Just take your time and concentrate. I would have easily come back and won if not for, my daughter making me a change a light bulb on lap 7 (caused me to drop to 12th from first) and my wife talking to me on lap 18 and making me drop from 1 second behind first to 7 seconds behind and into 3rd.
 
OK, my long national nightmare is over -- clinched the first five races before Suzuka (barely) and even though I couldn't win the last race, I'll do it seperately this weekend...

Since there is no save function, someone had some great advice of just pausing and taking breaks from time to time so your adrenaline level eases a bit...That is one of the factors that made a difference to me, along with blocking the AI driving line on the straights...I also lucked out because Monza and Suzuka were sunny and dry...

I guess the most important thing is to keep as relaxed as possible and not over-stress the car's control limits (which are surprisingly short) when you are trying to catch up...

I also found this tune over on gamefaqs, and for the sausage-fingered DS3 button smashers like myself, it was a godsend -- The car is a little slower, but MUCH more stable and confident at speed, and comes closest in spirit to the driving dynamics of the beloved GT3 Formula cars:

Aerodynamics: 70, 90

Transmission: 242

LSD: 15, 40, 45

Suspension
Ride Height: -6, -4
Spring Rate: 17.6, 17.3
Dampers Ext: 8, 8
Dampers Comp: 6, 6
Anti-Roll Bar: 7, 7

Wheel Alignment
Camber Angle: 2.0, 1.0
Toe Angle: -0.30, -0.20

Brake Balance: 4, 1


Driving Assists *Note*These are more or less crucial to this tuning being worthwhile, although your preferences may be slightly different

Transmission: Auto <---This lets you concentrate purely on your driving line and avoids red-lining due to human error

Tires: Racing Soft

Traction Control: 8 <---Let's you hammer the gas hard at any time, but still accelerate fast enough

Skid Recovery Force: On <---Helps keep skidding in check obviously

Active Steering: Mild <---This is critical. Because the AI turns so sharply, I gave the car's tuning some adjustments towards oversteer. This does let you turn sharp enough to beat the AI, but you need Mild Active Steering to keep the car stable and easy to drive. I wouldn't go to the Strong setting, however, it'll more or less cause you to understeer and make the whole thing pointless.

ABS: 4 <---Gives you a bit of oversteer when you smash the brakes, but not enough to actually spin you out.


Take advantage of the stability you'll have due to all the assists and you should be able to slam that thing around pretty fast once you get used to it. Also, figure out braking, because you can break shockingly late with this setup and have total control. I found that I could use the transmission setting of 242 to always catch up a bit in the straights, then brake late into the turns to pass.

Also, I found that the aforementioned oversteer caused by heaving braking can be used to your advantage. With that Mild Active Steering and ABS, you're so stable that you can basically skid into a corner and wind up facing exactly where you want to much easier than normal. This takes some getting used to though, so be warned.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/941103-gran-turismo-5/57441718
 
Really, I just beat my best time by 26 sec?


Far from a perfect lap still, but I just managed 5:14:942 on Nordschleife. That's my best time so far, but I've yet to really try and work the Ferrari F1's.

Wow, that's a good run bro, seriously. That blows my best time away. :)
 
Wow, that's a good run bro, seriously. That blows my best time away. :)




Thanks man, yeah I remember back when I could only get near 6:00 in the FGT. I've ran that course so many times now though (this is my first GT game). You have to memorize it and know where you can and can't punch it.

Anyway, I started with the F2007 last night. Not as fast in top speed compared to the FGT, but the acceleration and cornering speeds are insane. I pulled a 5:16, and that was after running off the road and having to slow down to keep it together. I'd imagine a perfect run for me in that car will come close to 5:10. Can't wait to try the F10 after this one, man I love Nordschleife!

If I get a good run in the F2007 I'll save the replay. That car just will not lose it's grip under cornering acceleration. It's almost like driving a slower X1 at times.
 
Downforce: 70/90 (Full)
Transmission top speed: 255
LSD: 40/60/45
Ride height: -5/1
Spring rate (kgf/mm): 14/19
Dampers (Ext): 8/8
Dampers (Comp): 7/7
Anti-roll bars: 7/7
Camber angle: 2.5/2.0
Toe angle: 0.5/0.2
Brakes: 9/1

All aids off except ABS: 1, Automatic transmission.

That got me four golds in the first four races. The win at Monza was mine, but I went off on the last lap and couldn't catch up. I never found any of the races particularly hard once I'd got control of the cars over-steer, and the rubber banding meant that even if I went off, I knew I was probably going to be back near/in the lead within a lap or two.
 
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Thanks man, yeah I remember back when I could only get near 6:00 in the FGT. I've ran that course so many times now though (this is my first GT game). You have to memorize it and know where you can and can't punch it.

Anyway, I started with the F2007 last night. Not as fast in top speed compared to the FGT, but the acceleration and cornering speeds are insane. I pulled a 5:16, and that was after running off the road and having to slow down to keep it together. I'd imagine a perfect run for me in that car will come close to 5:10. Can't wait to try the F10 after this one, man I love Nordschleife!

If I get a good run in the F2007 I'll save the replay. That car just will not lose it's grip under cornering acceleration. It's almost like driving a slower X1 at times.

I know exactly what you mean man. Once you get good at nordschleife and memorize the entire track, it's the most fun race in the game. I have ran some 5:teens with the F2007 as well. It has so much grip and cornering speed it makes the race really intense!

I did a LOT of racing with the F2007 on psp on the same track, and my best time was 5:07. I saved that replay since it took me about a million tries to make it under 5:10. :)
 
Yowza, well there's something to shoot for. That's an awesome time, I'll give it a go later in the week and see how I can do. Yeah, I can't believe I didn't save my FGT replay. I guess I was just too happy not to have crashed pushing it like that, lol.

The thing I've noticed about the F2007 is that it's going to take some time relearning the track since the cornering is so much different, but still not completely ridiculous like the X1. You can still lose it on some corners if you keep it full throttle. It's going to be fun to see how the F10 really compares to the F2007 also once I really get used to this car.
 
My FGT tune, had no problems with the FGT Championship in either A or B-Spec.
Aero:60/80
Gearing: Track specific, start around 242 for larger tracks and 211 for small tracks
LSD: 15/20/15
Height: -5/0
Spring Rate: 16.7/17.5
Ext: 6/8
Comp:5/7
Anti roll: 5/7
Camber: 2.5/1/5
Toe: -.25/.15
Brakes: 4/1

There isnt a track I've run where I've had to touch this tune other than the gearing
 
downforce max/max
diff 15/20/15
ride height -5/0
spring rate 16.4/17.5
damper ext 6/8
damper comp 5/7
anti roll 5/7
camber -2.5/-1.5
toe -0.25/-0.15
trans 249
brakes 4/1

try this one and let me know what you think.

Here's the tune I'm currently using if you're interested. The only assist I'm using with this is TCS on 1.

Aero: 70/90
Trans: 249
LSD: 15/45/55
Height: -5/-5
Spring: 17.0/17.5
Ext: 7/8
Com: 5/6
Anti-Roll: 7/7
Camber: -2.5/-0.6
Toe: -0.15/-0.12
Brakes: 4/1
Tires: Racing Soft

First, big thanks to both of you for thoses tunes 👍.

I just started the FGT races (not championship but one by one to get trained and confident with the car)

I have started with jorday setup. It suits very well the way i drive.
I feel the car very responsive and the medium/high speed cornering is very effective for me.
I have won the first two events. But i needed to add TCS = 1 and skid recovery ON to avoid mistakes under pressure.

I was disappointed when coming to Monaco track (named Côte d'Azur in the game).
I felt like stucked on the track on those slow corners of the track (or bad driving). I had to brake a lot to be able to turn correctly.
I was also loosing control after the tunnel sometimes when trying to brake (no grip).

So, i had a try to SS_1182 setup.
The car feels differently, i don't know the good word but it feels very soft.
The car turns very well at low speed and i won quite easily.

I think i will adopt the best suited of your setups for me depending on the tracks.

Question to jorday, i have read in one of your answers that when driving under rain, there is a parameter 'Standard' or 'Real' to adjust the grip.
Can you tell where is this parameter, i know it when going to training menu but i have not seen it somewhere else ?
 
First, big thanks to both of you for thoses tunes 👍.

I just started the FGT races (not championship but one by one to get trained and confident with the car)

I have started with jorday setup. It suits very well the way i drive.
I feel the car very responsive and the medium/high speed cornering is very effective for me.
I have won the first two events. But i needed to add TCS = 1 and skid recovery ON to avoid mistakes under pressure.

I was disappointed when coming to Monaco track (named Côte d'Azur in the game).
I felt like stucked on the track on those slow corners of the track (or bad driving). I had to brake a lot to be able to turn correctly.
I was also loosing control after the tunnel sometimes when trying to brake (no grip).

So, i had a try to SS_1182 setup.
The car feels differently, i don't know the good word but it feels very soft.
The car turns very well at low speed and i won quite easily.

I think i will adopt the best suited of your setups for me depending on the tracks.

Question to jorday, i have read in one of your answers that when driving under rain, there is a parameter 'Standard' or 'Real' to adjust the grip.
Can you tell where is this parameter, i know it when going to training menu but i have not seen it somewhere else ?



Hey Raptor, that's actually an older tune I tried. This one is my current one. Sorry for the confusion, but if the previous one works for you as well, by all means go for it.


Aero: 70/90
LSD: 12/25/15
Height: -5/0
Spr: 13.7/14.8
Ext: 6/8
Com: 5/7
Roll: 5/6
Cam: -2.7/-1.5
Toe: -0.30/-0.10
Brakes: 4/1



This one is going to be experimented with also. I've recently been tuning the Ferrari F1 cars, and one thing to think about is that those cars both handle like mad, and the F10 comes with default toe settings of -0.50/+0.50, and I believe the camber is -3.0/-1.5, but don't quote me on that last one.

I'm definitely going to try out the Ferrari F1 tunes with the Formula GT car, especially the F2007 setup, just to see what happens.
 
Jorday, nice tune. I used the one in your first post. It got me into the lead on the first lap of Cote d'Azur and I never looked back. I was running 1:12's with it.

I wish I had the tune when I originally ran these races...lol I remember trying so hard to concentrate because the FGT was almost uncontrollable...it wanted to spin out in every corner.
 
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