Formula Gran Turismo...READ thread, TUNE car, POST result

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My Bob's FGT record is 6 wins out of 6 with these settings, probably as much outperformance you can get with identical car races. He overtakes consistently, maybe 1 or 2 cars per lap but not a problem in a 30 lap race, he won at the Nurburgring after spinning out on the first lap.

He normally won the races by about 30s - 1 minute ahead of the field, not sure how accurate a measure this is as I found they pushed him harder in the earlier parts of the races before giving up and he was lapping about 8s a lap faster than them at the end

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Just my experience: Got the car yesterday and went racing without attempting any tuning. Did the usual crashing while learning to drive it, but after about 4-5 trys, got second at Fuji with one lap in the 16's and the rest 17-18's. Found this thread, installed Jorday's tune #1, and won Fuji on the first try, but my times were no faster, and I really didn't notice much difference. I'm using TC at 2 and active stability, no others. I like to run cars so they are competitive so only use the necessary (for me) aids. I believe a lot of the improvement drivers find as they experiment with tunes is actually attributable to gaining experience with the car and the given track as they experiment. I know that's true for me.

I don't doubt more sophisticated tuners find subtle differences as they make changes, but in GT5, I have found little difference with many cars as I try tuning changes.

Would someone smarter than me be interested in setting up an on-line F1 race for the denizens of this thread? I have only tried on-line once so far and wasn't impressed with the user friendliness.
 
I actually beat all the races with just the stock setup but decided to try this out today. Works really well. Diff was a little soft for me and steering a little quick but overall was nice. I was able to get some 1:13.3's on fuji. 1:07.788 Indy. Curious what others are getting?
 
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1:14.734 At Corte

1:29.938 At Nurburgring but I think the car isn't very good there as stated....not sure what would fix it have to play with it some. Overall won all 4 races easily abandon the last two already won the championship. Thanks for the tune.
 
subyalex
Hey guys, what tires do you guys use at monza and suzuka?? They are the weather change races.
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It depends on what driving settings you are using.

If you are using grip reduction = low like most guys, then just use the soft racing tires even if it's raining.

If you are using grip reduction = real, then you need to use either the intermediate or rain tires depending on how wet the track is.
KForceOH
I actually beat all the races with just the stock setup but decided to try this out today. Works really well. Diff was a little soft for me and steering a little quick but overall was nice. I was able to get some 1:13.3's on fuji. 1:07.788 Indy. Curious what others are getting?
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Depends on what driver aid settings I use.
I have dipped into the 1:12s on fuji and 1:08 at indy with AMS = on. Without it I lose a couple seconds because you can't be as aggressive with the throttle.
I always use ABS = 1.
KForceOH
1:14.734 At Corte

1:29.938 At Nurburgring but I think the car isn't very good there as stated....not sure what would fix it have to play with it some. Overall won all 4 races easily abandon the last two already won the championship. Thanks for the tune.
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Yeah, it sure seems like some tweaks would help on nurburgring, but I've had no luck so far. It appears to be bottoming out/bouncing off the ground in several spots going by the car's behavior, but playing with the settings doesn't seem to help.

I am starting to wonder if this is just supposed to represent the fact that in real life, nurburgring is a seriously bumpy track. I guess on this track it's just part of the challenge of the game to adapt to the bumpy racing conditions, rather than to "adjust the bumps out" with setting changes. I have tried absolutely everything I can think of to help the car's behavior on those spots where it's bouncing, and even significant changes to the suspension setup makes little difference, if any at all.
 
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Yeah, it needs to be tweaked a little bit for nurburgring, but I haven't had much luck so far. It appears to be bottoming out in several spots going by the car's behavior, but playing with the ride height and spring rates doesn't seem to help. Maybe that should be my project for tonight.
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You know, this has baffled me too. I've tried lowering the car as far as it goes and I don't seem to notice any actual bottoming out, even watched the replays. I actually think it's impossible to bottom out on GT5. Like I said, try it for yourself and watch the replays. If I remember right, I even tried it with the Minolta, which is very low to the ground and still didn't see it.


Regarding the "yanking" or jerking that you asked about in an earlier post about using your tune on the Indy road course, I think that's due to LSD settings. I've been going with much lower settings lately like 10/20/10 (haven't tried these on the FGT though), and I noticed that when I bumped it up to say 40/60/40 the jerking thing happened. I suppose it's a slip and catch thing. Anyway, just my observations. I'd test for yourself to see if you agree.
 
tonight it's taking me a minute to get used to the beloved FGT because I've been playing F1 2010 or a week lol....

right now I'm using differential settings of 15/20/15, and the problem is definitely still present. I'll try using both tighter and looser diff settings to see if I notice any changes.

I think you are right that it doesn't seem to be possible to bottom out in this spot, because in the other games the cars would spark if they hit the ground. Maybe it's true that you can't bottom out in this game at all.

I'm wondering if maybe it's just supposed to represent the car bouncing a little bit...the tires maybe not even coming off the ground, but still being deprived of traction enough to make the car behave strangely. I notice that shortly after that one really bad spot the car is bouncing like crazy as you drive straight to the next turn, and there doesn't seem to be a way to make the car stop bouncing there either.
 
jorday
tonight it's taking me a minute to get used to the beloved FGT because I've been playing F1 2010 or a week lol....

right now I'm using differential settings of 15/20/15, and the problem is definitely still present. I'll try using both tighter and looser diff settings to see if I notice any changes.

I think you are right that it doesn't seem to be possible to bottom out in this spot, because in the other games the cars would spark if they hit the ground. Maybe it's true that you can't bottom out in this game at all.

I'm wondering if maybe it's just supposed to represent the car bouncing a little bit...the tires maybe not even coming off the ground, but still being deprived of traction enough to make the car behave strangely. I notice that shortly after that one really bad spot the car is bouncing like crazy as you drive straight to the next turn, and there doesn't seem to be a way to make the car stop bouncing there either.
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Still getting it? Well maybe I just imagined it then. I've been tuning the super-light cars with crazy grip lately like the Elise 111r RM, etc., and none of those cars have ever done the jerking thing to me. Then I switched over to the Peugeot 908 (I believe it was) and noticed it again. Guess it was just coincidence but the settings were like 35/55/35 on that car.

Here's another test for ya. The Elise 111r RM is a very light car, I think 750kg, and it really doesn't take much to get that thing airborne. I've tried the most extreme spring rates on either side of the spectrum with that car, and can't seem to get it dialed out. I'll mess around with that one more today and go for complete suspension craziness, softest suspension all over vs. stiffest suspension, and see what happens. This is another part of GT5 tuning that I think is possibly broken.


BTW, some teamSkills guys have joined the forum, and apparently they're all top on the time trial boards. People are asking about their tunes in another thread and one of them has also replied that he thinks the tuning is basically broken. That doesn't prove anything, just throwing it out there.





BTW, you like F1 2010?
 
I haven't used any of those other cars mentioned, but maybe I should because I'm getting to the point where I'll be bored with this game pretty soon if I find some new stuff to mess with.


Yah, I like F1 2010. I actually managed to get ferrari to offer me a contract in the middle of my second season which surprised me.

There is a list of stuff about the game that annoys me, but it's a fun game. Sometimes I swear it's like the game can tell when you are trying to be extra careful not to spin out, and then it makes you spin out anyway...on the last lap of a race you are really trying not to spin out so you go through one of the ugly turns a little slower than usual just to be super careful you don't spin out and blow the lead, and the game recognizes this and makes you wipe out anyway lol.

For some reason, when you are running the performance tests during practice sessions, you know how it makes you drive out of the pits and complete a whole lap that doesn't count before you can attempt to finish the time challenge? That's slightly annoying too.

I do feel like a lot of times I can "feel" the speed in this game better than GT5 which is cool. Also, I like games that have a season mode. Any game with a season mode always seems to keep me playing long enough to go through a bunch of seasons.


How do you like the game?
 
I haven't tried it yet, but I'm interested. I too love seasons on games, and for that reason I've been holding off. I bought GT5 right at the start of Winter break, and I'm about to start my 2nd semester of my master's, so I have to be careful not to get my priorities confused just yet. I'll probably wait a few months first. :)
 
jorday
It depends on what driving settings you are using.

If you are using grip reduction = low like most guys, then just use the soft racing tires even if it's raining.

If you are using grip reduction = real, then you need to use either the intermediate or rain tires depending on how wet the track is.

Depends on what driver aid settings I use.
I have dipped into the 1:12s on fuji and 1:08 at indy with AMS = on. Without it I lose a couple seconds because you can't be as aggressive with the throttle.
I always use ABS = 1.


Yeah, it sure seems like some tweaks would help on nurburgring, but I've had no luck so far. It appears to be bottoming out/bouncing off the ground in several spots going by the car's behavior, but playing with the settings doesn't seem to help.

I am starting to wonder if this is just supposed to represent the fact that in real life, nurburgring is a seriously bumpy track. I guess on this track it's just part of the challenge of the game to adapt to the bumpy racing conditions, rather than to "adjust the bumps out" with setting changes. I have tried absolutely everything I can think of to help the car's behavior on those spots where it's bouncing, and even significant changes to the suspension setup makes little difference, if any at all.
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I with with SFR on..yea yea don't care without it you are at least a second slower i don't care...i run TCS on 1 for the high powered RWD cars to keep them in check a little, and I run ABS on 1. I couldn't dip to 1:12 on Fuji i tried my butt off last night lol 1:13.3 seems to be it for me, but I can get 1:07.7's on Indy pretty easily just brake super late for turn 1.

I would agree with you on the ring, I played with the car last night and couldn't really get any soild changes no matter what extreme I took it to, seems a little odd. Thanks man.
 
Just tried FGT championship for the first time, wow that sucked. My thumbs don't move fast enough. Golded one, bronzed another two and no podiums the rest, including getting lapped at suzuka. I used the first post tune and although much better than stock, I had trouble keeping it under control at all times, except a few straights.

I even had TC1 and ABS1 on and eventually had ASM on. Not much help for me. And that took forever, now I see why everyone is pushing for a save game function.
 
Yep, suzuka is the hardest of the FGT championship races for me to win as well. It seems there is very little room for error there or they will all blow right by you.
 
love the set-up jorday, did a 113.4 at fuji and it wasnt a perferct lap, did a 46.7 at high speed ring with the exact same set-up

thanks
 
love the set-up jorday, ran a 113.4 at fuji and it wasnt a flawless lap, also did a 46.7 at high speed ring with the same set-up

thanks
 
I tried all the tunes, what I need is my car needs to to turn tighter/sharper. How do I do that? This is my last Level game and then onto Endurance.
 
Just thought I'd leave a quick post here saying thanks to Jorday.

I'd only just recently got the formulagt and found it a bit of a handful. The back end would just slip out at certain turns, losing valuable time on the leaders. Before I saw your setup, a hard fought third place at fuji was my best result. I then saw your setup and gave it a shot, resulting in a dominant win at fuji and indianapolis. A disasterous 10th at monaco after a poor getaway and dropping to last on lap one after being forced into the barrier and ending up pointing in the wrong direction. I managed to fight my way back through the field and up to second by the last lap, where I spun trying to overtake through the swimming pool section and caused a multi car pileup at swimming pool 2.

To make matters worse, I then started the race at the nurburgring without editing my gear ratios. They were still on monaco ratios. A combination of good driving, dirty tactics (driving off line so my opponents didn't pick up the slipstream) and the AI repeatedly running wide on the exit of the second last corner saw me narrowly win the race(with my nearest championship rivals far down the order).

Onto monza where I was taken off by some bad driving from the AI who did an "Eddie Irvine" and moved out and hit me while I was trying to overtake him. The AI tried to overtake the car in first place whilst I was overtaking him in the rundown to turn 1 causing the two of us to spin off and the car in 1st place got off to a huge lead. I eventually caught up after several perfect laps and took the win. Again, my nearest championship rivals finished in a bad position and I already had enough of a point advantage to have the championship in the bag. Then, after two hours and twenty minutes of racing, I decided to retire from the championship before suzuka... I'll get round to it eventually, but I was hungry and had won the championship anyway.

So, thanks to Jorday for your awesome setup and my new Ferrari 330 P4 for finally clearing the last championship in extreme events.
 
nofearmx94
love the set-up jorday, ran a 113.4 at fuji and it wasnt a flawless lap, also did a 46.7 at high speed ring with the same set-up

thanks
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Thanks for checking in man. Glad you had some good luck with the settings!
yatkinson
I tried all the tunes, what I need is my car needs to to turn tighter/sharper. How do I do that? This is my last Level game and then onto Endurance.
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You might try moving the front toe a little bit toward negative. Problem is that going much more aggressive than the settings listed causes the car to become too difficult to control, for me at least. Time might be better spend in practice mode working on your lines through the turns with the driving line turned on.
F1 fan
Just thought I'd leave a quick post here saying thanks to Jorday.

I'd only just recently got the formulagt and found it a bit of a handful. The back end would just slip out at certain turns, losing valuable time on the leaders. Before I saw your setup, a hard fought third place at fuji was my best result. I then saw your setup and gave it a shot, resulting in a dominant win at fuji and indianapolis. A disasterous 10th at monaco after a poor getaway and dropping to last on lap one after being forced into the barrier and ending up pointing in the wrong direction. I managed to fight my way back through the field and up to second by the last lap, where I spun trying to overtake through the swimming pool section and caused a multi car pileup at swimming pool 2.

To make matters worse, I then started the race at the nurburgring without editing my gear ratios. They were still on monaco ratios. A combination of good driving, dirty tactics (driving off line so my opponents didn't pick up the slipstream) and the AI repeatedly running wide on the exit of the second last corner saw me narrowly win the race(with my nearest championship rivals far down the order).

Onto monza where I was taken off by some bad driving from the AI who did an "Eddie Irvine" and moved out and hit me while I was trying to overtake him. The AI tried to overtake the car in first place whilst I was overtaking him in the rundown to turn 1 causing the two of us to spin off and the car in 1st place got off to a huge lead. I eventually caught up after several perfect laps and took the win. Again, my nearest championship rivals finished in a bad position and I already had enough of a point advantage to have the championship in the bag. Then, after two hours and twenty minutes of racing, I decided to retire from the championship before suzuka... I'll get round to it eventually, but I was hungry and had won the championship anyway.

So, thanks to Jorday for your awesome setup and my new Ferrari 330 P4 for finally clearing the last championship in extreme events.
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Thanks for the feedback. This tune does seem to work really well for me at fuji and indy.

I have had everything you listed there happen to me so many times lol...especially the forgetting to turn the gear ratios back up. I bet I've done that a dozen times.
 
Thanks for the tuning Jorday. Started doing the final race I have left in a spec (gran turismo gt). Couldn't do too much without any settings to the car. I used your first settings and finished 4th, just over 4 seconds back. Driver error had a lot to do with that. I need to get more of a feel for the car and the course. But it made a world of difference. I'll be honest, I'm not sure what all that setting stuff means but I give guy's like yourself credit for going through the trial and error which it takes to find the right settings.....and then to post them here for less motivated guy's like myself.

I can see that this series of races is going to take some time just because of the 20. Add a few skids into the grass and it will take time. Rewarding in the end though.

Thanks, rchee. :):bowdown:
 
Great tuning mate, used it tonight to take gold on the first 5 tracks. Ended up just quitting at Suzuka like you since I'm going on 3 hours sleep. Thanks again though, much appreciated 👍👍
 

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