Formula GT World, how long?! *sigh*

[Fantic]

For the first time in a while, ive htought to myself, i have to get that C9 race car. Its one of the only cars i dont own. Im not a big fan of huge drawn out championships, 5 is fine, 10 ill do if i have to, 15 is just silly. Anyway, i had a free weekend, so i thought i had better make an effort. Got a load of beer, stuck it in the fridge. Ive cold beer + Gt4 is a good day off IMO.

So i sat down, started up Formula GT World, and my eyes fell out my head. 60 LAPS?!?! 127 LAPS?!?!

I dont mind hard, but god damn, why does almost all the top end races have to be done over 20+ hours. I know im a hardcore GT fan, but even the idea of spending a whole day playing a game solidly, had my eyes watering.

I know its all down to time sink, but come on. Insted of making 15 pretty easy races five hundred laps each, why not make them say 10 or 15, and make them a lot harder?

Anyone else think this is a bit TOO much?

On another note, is the Sauber worth the effort?

 

[luftrofl]

1) Nobody is forcing you to play- so if you don't want to put in the time, you don't have to.
2) Use the pause button

 

[Tenacious D]

No, I agree with him. I think a 3 hour race is bloody long! Even kids don't have infinite free time. It's nice to have B-Spec Bob sit in for you, except he's never that good unless you've managed those crazy B-Spec improvement exercizes, plus you basically have a race result, and you don't know how it happened.

This is part of the reason I jumped on Forza. All those tidbits of the 360 and PS3 were making me hungry for the next generation, and all I had left to go on GT4 were those hellishly LONG endurance races. And Forza is... well, to be kind, not Gran Turismo, but it is fun in its own way.

Now, if only November would hurry the heck up and get here.

 

[crimson_menace]

I agree with the long races/series being too long, but that what makes the extreme league 'extreme.'

And yes, the C9 is worth the eternity. 340mph+ topspeed worth it? Hell yes.

 

[opendriver]

I agree with the long races/series being too long, but that what makes the extreme league 'extreme.'

And yes, the C9 is worth the eternity. 340mph+ topspeed worth it? Hell yes.

That is well worth the 20+ hours and 15 races
all though, its not that good on tire wear. Well at least from what I saw. The fuji 1000km race for instance. for every pit stop I made, it made 2. So this car is lots of fun to play with in GT mode!
+20% power:tup:
-10% weight:tup:
All in all, use you B-spec bob( make sure his skillis around 6000 or so) to win the race. Or, you could use the pause button!

 

[Fantic]

I tryed B-spec, and won the first one pretty easy. My skills only 5900 or somthing, so i thought that would be good enough. Come the second race (Twin ring) i was stuck in 4th place. After that, i kinda gave up. I didnt want to devote a whole day if i was going to come in top 4, and random places.

 

[GT Pro]

Yer, considering GT4 still doesn't have a realistic in-drive view, I really don't see the point for realistic 24-hr races until GT5. But then again, I guess they're just trying to make it more of a 'driving simulator'👍

Plus, B-spec is totally a waste of programming, the A.I is pathetic, it doesn't help you at all at learning 'real racing skillz'

 

[Famine]

For the first time in a while, ive htought to myself, i have to get that C9 race car. Its one of the only cars i dont own. Im not a big fan of huge drawn out championships, 5 is fine, 10 ill do if i have to, 15 is just silly. Anyway, i had a free weekend, so i thought i had better make an effort. Got a load of beer, stuck it in the fridge. Ive cold beer + Gt4 is a good day off IMO.

So i sat down, started up Formula GT World, and my eyes fell out my head. 60 LAPS?!?! 127 LAPS?!?!

I dont mind hard, but god damn, why does almost all the top end races have to be done over 20+ hours. I know im a hardcore GT fan, but even the idea of spending a whole day playing a game solidly, had my eyes watering.

I know its all down to time sink, but come on. Insted of making 15 pretty easy races five hundred laps each, why not make them say 10 or 15, and make them a lot harder?

Anyone else think this is a bit TOO much?

On another note, is the Sauber worth the effort?

I can't wait until you discover the three 24 hour races, one 9 hour and one 8 hour timed races in Endurance Hall...

 

[luftrofl]

I can't wait until you discover the three 24 hour races, one 9 hour and one 8 hour timed races in Endurance Hall...

One shouldn't wish that upon him, seeing as a mere glance towards the FGT series made "[his] eyes fall out of [his] head"

 

[Smallhorses]

I must say, having A-specced both of the 24hr Sarthe races, and knowing I have to A-spec the Nurb 24hr to win the Formula GT I need to enter the FGT series races, I'm rather looking forward to these "short" 60 - 127 lap races! !!!!!!!

B-spec is for wussies! 👎

 

[Niels]

One shouldn't wish that upon him, seeing as a mere glance towards the FGT series made "[his] eyes fall out of [his] head"

If he tried to do the FGT championship I presume he already had an F1 car m8 Wich means he has already done a 24 hour already.

 

[DQuaN]

Why not use a mixture of both?

Race for a while, gain a bit of a lead, then let b-spec take over. You can take control again if he starts struggling.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

No, it isn't too long as the real-life F1 is also almost 2 hours driving (better say racing )


I hope a 24 hour race in GT5 will become a pleasure as it's in GT4 crap, no daylight-night change, boring AI, only 6 cars on the grid.

 

[STLbarcelona5]

Why not use a mixture of both?

Race for a while, gain a bit of a lead, then let b-spec take over. You can take control again if he starts struggling.

I just got to Cote D'Azur in the championship. Doing EXACTLY that. Id always start out going through at least a couple of pit stops. Then put B-Spec on, and then probably finish the race after the last pit stop.

My question is. . . If i keep switching back and forth, do i get any A/B-Spec points?

 

[Alfaholic]

A few guides have been posted on this forum by people (incl. myself) who have b-specced their way through the FGT championship. Many of the races need some form of a-spec help. In some its best to qualify on pole, on others its best to drive the first stint yourself (super speedway and high speed ring if memory serves) but all in all you can ease the GT Championship with intelligent b-spec use. I suggest using the search function to find those guides as they will help you out. With them you should be able to win the Sauber in a day.

Two other things to remember:

1) you don't have to race all 15 events in one go. In GT4 it is possible to save between events in a championship series. So you can do the first 5 races, save, then do another 5 next week, or do just one race per sitting, or whatever.
2) to win the Sauber, you don't need to win all 15 events. You only need to win the championship. Therefore once you have an uncatchable lead in the championship, you can retire from the remaining races and still win the prize (as long as you don't quit the championship!). Mathematically, if you win 11 races, you cannot be beaten, so you may only need to race 11 events (or less if the AI shares the points evenly) and not 15. You will need to win all the races to get 100% though.

STLbarcelona5: If b-spec completes even one lap in a race for you, you do not get any a-spec points whatsoever for the event. I do not know if you earn any b-spec points or experience. A search may find the answer.

 

[ImprezaAddict]

you gotta have a lot of nerve, patience, tough thumbs, and loadsa of enduro.
that is long and crazy, a specing it will go so fast that when you crash you cant realize why

 

[Mr. Boy]

I know its all down to time sink, but come on. Insted of making 15 pretty easy races five hundred laps each, why not make them say 10 or 15, and make them a lot harder?

I agree. PD made these races way too easy. So what do you do? Make them harder yourself. I haven't A-Specced the FGT series yet, but you could add 200kg ballast, turn off the TCS, and adjust the downforce in a manner that wouldn't benefit the car (eg: minimum downforce at Cote d'Azur, maximum downforce at La Sarthe.)

Either that or use another Group C car like the Nissan R92CP.

 

[Pupik]

B-spec is for wussies! 👎

I took more work and concentration to win the Super Speedway FGT race in B-Spec than a good A-spec race.

B-spec is easy if you have a car with a serious power advantage, and you just "set and forget"...but using the same car as the AI requires almost as much concentration as A-spec, since you can't make any mistakes.

 

[Thirdeye]

I had to a-spec most of the FGT races, as even with 8000+ b-spec points, I usually ended up in 6th no matter how much I played with the pace settings.

 

[RenesisEvo]

It is irritatingly time-consuming. If time allows, I only do one race per sitting - thats about as much time as I can spare. The worst part is when you just want to have a nice, relaxed drive around the 'Ring: you can't (have to quit the c'ship).

What scares me even more is that I have at least 10 more hours of driving to do. Looking forward to the adrenaline-rush that is 15laps of the 'Ring, but the next race is Twin Ring and I just can't keep that car on the road - one tiny lapse and you spend an age in the gravel. The car feels uber-twitchy after playing TRD3, which doesnt help.

As for easy: Im running low downforce and ballast to get 118pts per race. Certainly keeps you on your toes. It will be a pain in the long run, but getting it finished will give a good sense of achievement.

 

[STLbarcelona5]

It is irritatingly time-consuming. If time allows, I only do one race per sitting - thats about as much time as I can spare. The worst part is when you just want to have a nice, relaxed drive around the 'Ring: you can't (have to quit the c'ship).

What scares me even more is that I have at least 10 more hours of driving to do. Looking forward to the adrenaline-rush that is 15laps of the 'Ring, but the next race is Twin Ring and I just can't keep that car on the road - one tiny lapse and you spend an age in the gravel. The car feels uber-twitchy after playing TRD3, which doesnt help.

As for easy: Im running low downforce and ballast to get 118pts per race. Certainly keeps you on your toes. It will be a pain in the long run, but getting it finished will give a good sense of achievement.

Today. I did Laguna Seca and Twin Montegi. I easily won Laguna, but out of nowhere miracously won Twin Montegi, somehow I came back from letting B-spec screw around to A-Spec with like 12 laps and a +58 second defecit to overcome. On the last lap everyone pitted and I won by like 10 seconds!

After that, I did the Nurburgring, and realized that I'd lose my mind, so quit that, and turned the ps2 off saving before I attempt El Capitan (one of my best tracks).

 

[DQuaN]

I just got to Cote D'Azur in the championship. Doing EXACTLY that. Id always start out going through at least a couple of pit stops. Then put B-Spec on, and then probably finish the race after the last pit stop.

My question is. . . If i keep switching back and forth, do i get any A/B-Spec points?

You definately dont get A-spec points. I'm not sure about B-spec points, but I don't think you do.

 

[Wiggalowile]

Nurnburgring is IMPOSSIBLE for me, I can't race two laps on one set of tires....

 

[LILAL]

try using a different car just drive more carefully.
i havent really tried the 24hr because i never really have the time.
if you want help on this use the search and im sure you will find many descussions(sp???) on the subject

 

[Jim Prower]

Is there any way to quit a race in the middle, save, turn the machine off, and do something else? If not, that's why I have a Gameshark.

 

[Famine]

You can quit a race in the middle, save and turn the machine off, but you won't get back into the race when you start up the game again.

 

[SportWagon]

I had to a-spec most of the FGT races, as even with 8000+ b-spec points, I usually ended up in 6th no matter how much I played with the pace settings.

Hmm. I did have 10,000 B-spec points when I did the series, but I'm surprised an 8000 point driver wouldn't be able to win from pole, at least.

I drove Super Speedway and High Speed Ring because AI, including B-spec don't seem to know how to take advantage of those tracks. And then I drove Grand Valley for old-times sake and Laguna Seca because an AI bug means the AI wipes out every second lap or so--at least one severe wipe-out per tire-change anyway.

In the rest I tried to qualify first and usually, but not always, managed it, but B-spec always finished first, even (perhaps especially) at Nurburgring. For most races I "supervised" until there was a clear lead, and then I went into 3x monitor mode. I always made sure I supervised the pit-stops, however.

I resent the fact that you can't exit the FGT series, race something else, and then return to the FGT series. My game was "held hostage" until I finished the series. I started on Jan 21, 2006 and finished on January 30, 2006. On January 29 (which includes wee hours of January 30) I B-spec'd five races and A-spec'd Laguna Seca. That looks like my peak day. I believe that's the weekend I could have considered getting to Toronto for sort of a mini-GTF meeting (a University GT competition at a hotel there). FGT definitely contributed to me feeling I was "too busy".

 

[STLbarcelona5]

I resent the fact that you can't exit the FGT series, race something else, and then return to the FGT series. My game was "held hostage" until I finished the series. I started on Jan 21, 2006 and finished on January 30, 2006. On January 29 (which includes wee hours of January 30) I B-spec'd five races and A-spec'd Laguna Seca. That looks like my peak day. I believe that's the weekend I could have considered getting to Toronto for sort of a mini-GTF meeting (a University GT competition at a hotel there). FGT definitely contributed to me feeling I was "too busy".

Yeahh . . . my brother is really irritated at me becuase of the fact that I've been on this series for at least a week, probably more like 10 days. But so long as he understands that sabotaging my game will only make this go on longer, he can wait to play.

 

[Psyborg]

he can just take the memory card out and play in arcade mode

 

[BMWteamPTG]

For the first time in a while, ive htought to myself, i have to get that C9 race car. Its one of the only cars i dont own. Im not a big fan of huge drawn out championships, 5 is fine, 10 ill do if i have to, 15 is just silly. Anyway, i had a free weekend, so i thought i had better make an effort. Got a load of beer, stuck it in the fridge. Ive cold beer + Gt4 is a good day off IMO.

So i sat down, started up Formula GT World, and my eyes fell out my head. 60 LAPS?!?! 127 LAPS?!?!

I dont mind hard, but god damn, why does almost all the top end races have to be done over 20+ hours. I know im a hardcore GT fan, but even the idea of spending a whole day playing a game solidly, had my eyes watering.

I know its all down to time sink, but come on. Insted of making 15 pretty easy races five hundred laps each, why not make them say 10 or 15, and make them a lot harder?

Anyone else think this is a bit TOO much?

On another note, is the Sauber worth the effort?

ok first off....mmmmmm...beer

second, the laps, are realistic. a real formula race, as stated in an earlier post, last around 2 hours. which these normally do, if not a little more.

i just spent the last 4 days doing the entire FGT series. *phew* im now done, 4.5million dollars richer with "one of the best" cars on the game. it was not fun, well maybe a little, but it was a long time coming that i knew i was going to have to do FGT. i only have Sarthe II left in endurance and will be using the Sauber for that. Great top speed, and it does have the mecedes logo on it right? german engineering...

ok, lastly, FGT is that one championship, i feel, that determines if you just want to play GT4 or be GT4. by finishing, im almost done with my game. i need to work on my liscences and complete a few other little things and im done. then i start over.

be GT my friend..be GT...i strive to...so should you