This is two days old, but I want to nip this in the bud now:
If you have a problem with me, say it.
I don't have a problem with
you as a person. I don't know you, and to be quite honest, you probably seem like a nice guy outside of a forum
.
What I do have a problem with, however, is how you've been speaking about FH4 as a whole
. Lets go through it.
What you did is an exploit. I'm not sure how it helps matters.
I mean...is it really an exploit? It might be a minor one at best, but again, as I have said, FH4 as a whole doesn't do a good job balancing buggies at all (I would know, I've used them a lot more willingly then maybe others would) As such, if there's a disparity where you can run vehicles basically at, and slightly past, the threshold, why not use it? Then you don't get the Maverick, and everybody's happy.
I should mention this again: FH as a whole doesn't require you to upgrade vehicle to the bleeding edge of the class. Ever. The game balances cars out for you - and as such, you can be flexible with it. There are exceptions and anomalies, but for the most part, the system works, and allows you basically to play with vehicles as stock as you'd like it without having to worry about having to deal with AI that are driving at the highest echelon of the class alongside being on Unbeatable or whatever, like in FM4 once upon a time.
As such, if the opportunity presents itself, why not take it and then not have the offending DLC vehicle appear?
Sorry, I forgot this is the "Forza Horizon 4 cheerleading thread" and not the "Forza Horizon 4 General Discussion" one. Will retract my previous statement.
Stop with this. Please. This thread isn't the circlejerk that you think it is - many people, including myself, have voiced issues and concerns with how PG has operated with regards to the game. There are problems, PG is very much aware, and to be quite honest, there's nothing else that can be done unless PG get onto trying to fix it. Which they have, but it's likely that it will be fixed out in the next Horizon game, especially considering that this is their first kick at the can with regards to a live service game, something that I have pointed out multiple times, in this very forum, is something that PG is very much learning to grapple with.
As in, I'm allowed to come here and criticize the game to my heart's content as well as praise it as I have done on numerous occasions which you seem to ignore.
Yes, and you have that right, as do I. Where our objections to you and your criticizing come in, however, is when you blatantly try to create conspiracies out of thin air to paint PG as this insidious actor. They aren't. Whether it be saying, as in the offending post, that the Playlist cars aren't free because one such instance (Again, the buggies class is notorious for pretty wild PI swings, and as mentioned, it can be remedied by gaming the system, or at least, playing to the system's strength instead of just upgrading vehicles to the bleeding edge) means that if you have upgraded your vehicle fully means you go up against a DLC vehicle that is good in that specific instance. The Playlist vehicles are still free - yet your statement makes it seem as though this is some pay to win deal. It isn't.
This isn't getting into your other frankly asinine points about how the game is pay to win because sometimes the DLC/Playlist cars are good, and not straight trash, insinuating that Forzathon as a concept is somehow meant to punish early adopters (It isn't, not in the slightest) and your consistent re-litigating about how crap the general Forzathon/Festival Playlist limited time car challenges is (Everybody knows this, but frankly it isn't as bad as you're making out to be, nor does it need to be brought up every single time) you can see that for some, it gets incredibly...grating, and honestly kind of frustrating. Especially when you make yourself out as some martyr because the rest of the thread is trying to silence your criticisms. We aren't silencing criticism for the game - we are poking holes into your logic and criticisms because they really hold at most, a kernel of truth and seem more like conspiracy theories then anything else, or baseless statements.
I will not tolerate this childish behavior towards me anymore. Being a paying member here at GTPlanet is not a free pass for being a dick.
Please, point out where me, or anybody else, has been a dick to you, instead of what I described above. Have I've taken the piss out of your statements, and the 'so nasty' joke made by Shakes? Yeah, that might be a bit over the line, but since I haven't been warned or banned by the moderators or broken any of the AUP rules, then it is more or less fine.
I'm not the first member you guys are chasing away due to difference in opinions, even though Techlet and Doomotron were hardly nice to argue with.
Once again, stop making yourself out to be a martyr and realize that we are simply poking holes into your 'criticisms' and that we as a general thread have also made criticisms against FH4 and PG's actions regarding it, but we aren't couching said statements in the idea that PG is turning the game into a pay to win hell hole, or that the Forzathon is to punish late adopters to the game.
We're also did not chase out Techlet, considering he was an incredibly unpopular member that basically did the same thing you are doing, except couched his 'criticisms' with endless nitpicking and negativity that eventually resulted in an absolutely asinine argument that revealed just how clueless he was, nor did we chase out Doomotron, who was simply a kid who wanted to be a contrarian and criticize FH4 using the absolutely weakest argument points imaginable, and didn't know when to quit poking the bear before he eventually did.
so, frankly, feel free to criticize the game. Everybody else has been doing it, and there is certainly no rules against criticizing FH4 or how PG have operated. Where people start to get tired of you is when you post conspiracy theories, and generally try to make yourself out as a martyr. So please stop.
I'm done with this, and to be quite honest, we're reaching dangerously close to the point where such meta arguing about people on the forum would probably get people warned. So for yours, mine, and everybody's else sake, stop.
The game tailors the AI more or less to your car's PI, anyway.
