Forza Horizon 4: General Discussion
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Q7 V12 from FM7 would be very welcome too. Would be nicely paired with the ML63, both have current gen models.God I miss the S4, it’s a crime that it’s only been in two Forza games this generation.
Speaking of Audi, every month I hope for at least one new modern Audi added to the game, the last new road going Audi we got was the second gen R8 in FM6, which was 3 and a half years ago...
Right now the entire Audi line up that Forza has is outdated and is in dire need of a big update, literally none of the new RS cars or any of Audi SUVs are in the game and it’s just depressing for an Audi fanboy like me
Also, "confirmed"/teased on the stream: at some point in 2020, there'll be a month of rally cars, and at some point in 2020, there'll be a month of "slightly more basic" cars. Chris on the stream said "not quite as basic as a Focus SE" (SE being what someone asked in the Q&A), but certainly some more down to earth and apparently "oddball British cars".
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I'm glad the Bugatti Divo is in the game, a car that prioritizes handling over raw power, despite a similar engine and running gear to the Chiron. It lacks the blue tire outlining, and retains the horrible sound from the Chiron.
I am also quite digging the Rossion Q1. A very simple, yet elegant GT car.
To be honest I wasn't really that excited for the Koenigsegg CCGT and the BMW M3 GTS.
I am also quite digging the Rossion Q1. A very simple, yet elegant GT car.
To be honest I wasn't really that excited for the Koenigsegg CCGT and the BMW M3 GTS.
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What happend to the Mercedes - AMG One that leaked before the release of the game, i tought it would be in the car pass but they skipped it. Also its a shame whe get no new Audi's liek the new RS6 and RS7 wich look beastly and perfect for this game
I'm really curious of what's up with Audi. I may be wrong, but don't they have a different, harder to bargain approach to licensing?
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For this car pack, I'll take this please:
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For this car pack, I'll take this please:
What is this from, the Crew2? Kinda looks like the garage space from FM7.
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Not a bad month in terms of cars IMO. Side note, I woulda thought with the new Upgrade Hero story coming this month that it would've been a perfect time to add those body kits in that PG said were coming in April this year (and repeatedly said were coming in subsequent live streams) but nope.
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Normal cars??? Rally Cars??? More british oddballs?!?!?!?!? 2020!!!!!! I love everything about that
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Epic support that FH4 is getting. Those late adopter who pick this up will have so much content!
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Just need more paint space now and maybe some more garage space.
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The stance on garage space seems to have softened with the latest stream. I think they've realised that future cars will push us over 750 even without duplicates. They're still reiterating with every mention that it's a very risky thing involving save files, but now their stance is that they're discussing their options with it, whereas last stream they simply said it's not being considered.
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Given all of this, have they ever explained why they didn't just make it 1000 or something LAST time? Do save files get more unstable as garage sizes get bigger? Is the garage size the reason it seems to take the game like 15 seconds to show me my cars sometimes?
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I am so down for some rally cars, basic (everyday?) cars, and oddball British cars!
The support for FH4 has been magnificent, although with odd decision like the new Horizon story that won't even feature new upgrade hero cars... Other than that, I'm digging the support PG has for this game in one year!
Glad we have something to look forward in 2020 now. Happy 1st Anniversary FH4!
I'm also preying Toyota will allow its cars back in western racing games next year.
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I've never had issues with the garage space limitations.....but I recently learned that there is a limit to how many routes you can create. And I learned that the hard way. 
So what I'm saying is if anything needs a boost it's the number of routes you can make.
So what I'm saying is if anything needs a boost it's the number of routes you can make.
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That triggers my Pavlov's response.
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It make sense for the CCGT but why did they put the Divo into Extreme Track-toys too? Why?
The Divo is a track focused car built more for corners rather than for speed like a hypercar. It makes sense for it to be in Extreme Track-toys.
It's the same remix from before, it's just being offered again this Winter.
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Anyone know what division the Rossion is in?
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The Rossion Q1 is locked behing Playground Games.
I thought Seasonal PGG was popular, Playground? You said so last month. So why throw bones to make us come out to play?
I personally don't believe the metrics they get (if they even get them!) and I suspect they're skewed due to the sheer number of people who drop out of PGG and restart when going for the win. This creates lots of PGG matches, but they may also have stats for duration and know it isn't all that popular at all, which could have motivated their decision on their part. Or they just blindly trust their simple metrics and think everyone will get the car because the numbers say everyone thinks PGG is awesome just like Tegan and Sara.
Why are PGGs terrible, you ask?
1) Slow to find matches in (similar to Trial but worse)
2) Slow progress (losing 2-3 like I did once feels bad, man... 40 minutes wasted on BS)
3) Unorthodox next to the rest of the game, so the vast majority of players are clueless when it comes to the finer strategies (myself included!)
4) Glitches often so you may find yourself waiting 10+ minutes until the end of a game due to online connection mishaps, time us adults don't have
5) You have to pay for it if you're on Xbox (Live Gold), since it involves online activities
So much for a bunch of recycled polygons, Thanos would say. (Rossion Q1 is a 360 car)
These decisions on Playground's part are puzzling, because Polyphony has had huge success with Gran Turismo's free DLC content, the availability of which isn't time-based. Granted, you still need to buy cars in the game (not tracks), but they're always there for you to use. Old-school, simple. More free than the open-ended game since you can earn credits however you want and buy the car whenever you want.
Gran Turismo Sport has 9.6 million players to Forza Horizon 4's 12 million. But Gran Turismo's sole current platform is the PS4, whereas FH4 has the PC and the Game Pass to boost engagement metrics.
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The Forza Horizon 4 fanbase is toxic because it consists of two groups of people:
1) The kids who spam PERFORMANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEE on YouTube comments
2) The people who blindly defend the game as if it was perfect and Playground's staff were saints (some of whom in this very thread)
And the rare people like me squeezed in-between, people who appreciate the game's qualities (the ones that remain, that is) but have grown disillusioned with Playground's marketing tactics, which are a result of, among other things, Microsoft's decision to bring their games to PC without a plan as to integrating both communities properly.
If we're speaking of platform agnosticism, the most important metric is "players". Microsoft is filthy rich and no longer cares about sales, only popularity. Adding a car to the game and saying "it's free but, you have to do this and that, and you have to do it this week" makes people play for 15-30 minutes, keeping activity metrics high.
Key word being "free". If something's "free", people will accept it regardless of what it is. That's PC gaming mentality (remember PC is the premier platform for piracy and unhealthy online gameplay). Meanwhile the paid content for the game is absolutely terrible, but Microsoft doesn't care. It's popularity they need, not money.
So you have to pay for Live Gold but, wait, PC players would complain, let's give them Live Gold for free and sweeten things for them. "Bring them to our side, for once." And us Xbox owners get the shaft since our once beautifully closed platform was flooded by keyboard macros and hackers, and we have to pay for it without the means to disable it (in FH3 you could, but not in FH4 and other recent first-party games). You cannot issue hardware bans to PCs either.
If T10 blows it with FM8 I guess it's finally time to move on to more adult games like F1 2019. Or just buy a PS5 for the next Gran Turismo (never thought I'd say that).
I thought Seasonal PGG was popular, Playground? You said so last month. So why throw bones to make us come out to play?
I personally don't believe the metrics they get (if they even get them!) and I suspect they're skewed due to the sheer number of people who drop out of PGG and restart when going for the win. This creates lots of PGG matches, but they may also have stats for duration and know it isn't all that popular at all, which could have motivated their decision on their part. Or they just blindly trust their simple metrics and think everyone will get the car because the numbers say everyone thinks PGG is awesome just like Tegan and Sara.
Why are PGGs terrible, you ask?
1) Slow to find matches in (similar to Trial but worse)
2) Slow progress (losing 2-3 like I did once feels bad, man... 40 minutes wasted on BS)
3) Unorthodox next to the rest of the game, so the vast majority of players are clueless when it comes to the finer strategies (myself included!)
4) Glitches often so you may find yourself waiting 10+ minutes until the end of a game due to online connection mishaps, time us adults don't have
5) You have to pay for it if you're on Xbox (Live Gold), since it involves online activities
So much for a bunch of recycled polygons, Thanos would say. (Rossion Q1 is a 360 car)
These decisions on Playground's part are puzzling, because Polyphony has had huge success with Gran Turismo's free DLC content, the availability of which isn't time-based. Granted, you still need to buy cars in the game (not tracks), but they're always there for you to use. Old-school, simple. More free than the open-ended game since you can earn credits however you want and buy the car whenever you want.
Gran Turismo Sport has 9.6 million players to Forza Horizon 4's 12 million. But Gran Turismo's sole current platform is the PS4, whereas FH4 has the PC and the Game Pass to boost engagement metrics.
___
The Forza Horizon 4 fanbase is toxic because it consists of two groups of people:
1) The kids who spam PERFORMANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEE on YouTube comments
2) The people who blindly defend the game as if it was perfect and Playground's staff were saints (some of whom in this very thread)
And the rare people like me squeezed in-between, people who appreciate the game's qualities (the ones that remain, that is) but have grown disillusioned with Playground's marketing tactics, which are a result of, among other things, Microsoft's decision to bring their games to PC without a plan as to integrating both communities properly.
If we're speaking of platform agnosticism, the most important metric is "players". Microsoft is filthy rich and no longer cares about sales, only popularity. Adding a car to the game and saying "it's free but, you have to do this and that, and you have to do it this week" makes people play for 15-30 minutes, keeping activity metrics high.
Key word being "free". If something's "free", people will accept it regardless of what it is. That's PC gaming mentality (remember PC is the premier platform for piracy and unhealthy online gameplay). Meanwhile the paid content for the game is absolutely terrible, but Microsoft doesn't care. It's popularity they need, not money.
So you have to pay for Live Gold but, wait, PC players would complain, let's give them Live Gold for free and sweeten things for them. "Bring them to our side, for once." And us Xbox owners get the shaft since our once beautifully closed platform was flooded by keyboard macros and hackers, and we have to pay for it without the means to disable it (in FH3 you could, but not in FH4 and other recent first-party games). You cannot issue hardware bans to PCs either.
If T10 blows it with FM8 I guess it's finally time to move on to more adult games like F1 2019. Or just buy a PS5 for the next Gran Turismo (never thought I'd say that).
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Is the new update coming out today? Anyone know?
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