Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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Bad to the Blade confused me at first, but now I am looking forward to this car.
The car has an unrealistic design, but would be a nice alternative for users who want open wheels.

And personally, the style of this car looks like an aircraft with tires like the Jet Threat 3.0.
It must also look good with livery that mimics the paint job of fighter jets and acrobatic team aircraft of various countries.

I have only one concern. Only that they will not treat these cars like barn finds or Lego cars. (Well, they will do it.)
I like to keep many copies of my favorite cars.
 
Really? The Hot Wheels DLC in FH3 was really good, I enjoyed it. However, I think it is lazy to revisit old DLC themes in future games, especially when the developers are asking for our money for them.

If the concept is done half as well as it was for FH3 then undoubtedly the DLC will be fun to play but for a game already struggling in a lot of players eyes (not mine I love it) rehashed ideas will not help.
I disagree.

The hot wheels expansion in fh3 came out like 5 years ago and is delisted. It’ll be brand new to tons of people and can still be different enough and fun.

It’s better than like a small island with a weather element again.
 
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This is true, I'm hoping they stop including "fantasy" cars in the FM games with this next game and keep them in the Horizon series.
I want to also add that this is the reason why I'm glad FM is taking a more serious route with the reboot. All of the fantasy cars can hopefully stay on FH once and for all, because that series is for thrills. Whereas FM is for hardcore, track racing while mimicking realism.
 
I disagree.

The hot wheels expansion in fh3 came out like 5 years ago and is delisted. It’ll be brand new to tons of people and can still be different enough and fun.

It’s better than like a small island with a weather element again.
While it will be new to many it will also be more of the same to just as many if not more. I just feel it's a bit lazy rehashing the same DLC again.

I do agree we don't need another island again either.

A city expansion DLC could've given us so much more. Mexico City itself is huge and has so many opportunities for events and races within its borders, and we are missing a good large city this time round in FH5.
 
While I like Hot Wheels, it seems weird to have it in Forza now especially when there's a dedicated Hot Wheels game on the market. The whole FH5 game just feels phoned in at this point too and is lacking some serious innovation. While Minecraft wouldn't have been my preference, it at least would've been something unique to add and would've given the game some sort of standout feature.
 
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It's incredibly clear that Playground obviously can't do much to push FH5 in terms of innovation as long as they are forced to support the previous generation. It's also clear that they're holding the cards to their chest in terms of giving the community what they want with the next game when they can build exclusively for current gen platforms.
 
While Minecraft wouldn't have been my preference, it at least would've been something unique to add and would've given the game some sort of standout feature.
Are you kidding? That would make for the biggest controversy had PG went with Minecraft of all games, and we should already know the Forza fanbase by now and how they responded to things when said things is not up their ally or in their favor.
 
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No offense to anyone here if you are on-board with this being just a rumor, but the amount of people I see believing this to be true because it was advertised on Steam for a few hours is mind boggling to me.

To that point, the people that came back at me to tell me the Steam was an official source...no, it isn't, the only official source at this point is PG/T10.

Why is that so hard to understand for some people? Are people really that gullible at this point that they believe everything they see on the Internet?
 
Not the biggest fan either way of this news, On one hand im glad its HW and not Minecraft or Jurassic Park... But I would have preffered a more grounded expansion along the lines of a Storm/Fortune Island or a City based DLC (Hopefully this is what the 2nd one is)

On the other hand, FH3 HW DLC was outlandish fun and seemed popular amongst players so I don't hate it.

No offense to anyone here if you are on-board with this being just a rumor, but the amount of people I see believing this to be true because it was advertised on Steam for a few hours is mind boggling to me.

To that point, the people that came back at me to tell me the Steam was an official source...no, it isn't, the only official source at this point is PG/T10.

Why is that so hard to understand for some people? Are people really that gullible at this point that they believe everything they see on the Internet?

If it was some random website you would be right, But a reputable and massive storefront like Steam aren't likely to just make leaks up for clicks... (If indeed this is from Steam)

And I wouldn't say people are gullible in this situation. Most people understand you can't be 100% sure until an official announcement is made. That being said this is a discussion thread about FH5, The first DLC is overdue by months and just before the Xbox showcase, Steam (of all places) springs a very convincing leak. Are we supposed to just ignore it?
 
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Not the biggest fan either way of this news, On one hand im glad its HW and not Minecraft or Jurassic Park... But I would have preffered a more grounded expansion along the lines of a Storm/Fortune Island or a City based DLC (Hopefully this is what the 2nd one is)

On the other hand, FH3 HW DLC was outlandish fun and seemed popular amongst players so I don't hate it.



If it was some random website you would be right, But a reputable and massive storefront like Steam aren't likely to just make leaks up for clicks... (If indeed this is from Steam)

And I wouldn't say people are gullible in this situation. Most people understand you can't be 100% sure until an official announcement is made. That being said this is a discussion thread about FH5, The first DLC is overdue by months and just before the Xbox showcase, Steam (of all places) springs a very convincing leak. Are we supposed to just ignore it?
That promo shot doesn't look very convincing to me when I compare it with the FH3 promo shots. The Deora is floating off in the middle of nowhere and the background doesn't look like anywhere currently on the map or remotely close to Mexico. Maybe it is real and I'll end up eating my words when an official reveal comes along and I'll admit I was wrong if that is the case, but as of right now it is nothing more than a rumor.

Keep in mind that the Steam storefront is nothing more than a website within a proprietary browser client. Fake images can be made an uploaded just like any website.
 
If it is a fake news story why haven't Microsoft or PG Games come out and said so?

I totally agree that Steam has been used for fake news before but I think this could well be genuine.
 
That promo shot doesn't look very convincing to me when I compare it with the FH3 promo shots. The Deora is floating off in the middle of nowhere and the background doesn't look like anywhere currently on the map or remotely close to Mexico. Maybe it is real and I'll end up eating my words when an official reveal comes along and I'll admit I was wrong if that is the case, but as of right now it is nothing more than a rumor.

Keep in mind that the Steam storefront is nothing more than a website within a proprietary browser client. Fake images can be made an uploaded just like any website.
The image was on Steam's own CDN (Content Delivery Network), which is hosted through Akamai. It's about as legit as can be aside from coming from the horse's own mouth.

Which, it practically did, as said horse would have to pass the content (with unique IDs) through Steam.
 
That promo shot doesn't look very convincing to me when I compare it with the FH3 promo shots. The Deora is floating off in the middle of nowhere and the background doesn't look like anywhere currently on the map or remotely close to Mexico. Maybe it is real and I'll end up eating my words when an official reveal comes along and I'll admit I was wrong if that is the case, but as of right now it is nothing more than a rumor.

Keep in mind that the Steam storefront is nothing more than a website within a proprietary browser client. Fake images can be made an uploaded just like any website.
But Turn 10/PG/Microsoft and Steam are the only parties with control and access to their Product Page... It really isn't the same as posting fakes to regular websites. If it was posted on the FH5 Steam Community Hub yes ofcourse anyone could have posted it, But actually on the Store Page of the game?
 
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But Turn 10/PG/Microsoft and Steam are the only parties with control and access to their Product Page... It really isn't the same as posting fakes to regular websites. If it was posted on the FH5 Steam Community Hub yes ofcourse anyone could have posted it, But actually on the Store Page of the game?
Storefronts are responsible for a lot of leaked info.
This happens a lot on PSN or Xboxlive.

if it was on Steam I think it is very legit.
 
For those doubting that it did in fact come from Steam, here's an archived version of the page from when it was still up:

I'm gonna stir the hornets nest.......is that Blizzard Mountain in the far back left of the leaked screenshot. Is Nexus the Hot Wheels DLC looping around Blizzard, Storm and Fortune Island?🤔🤔🤔
 
Storefronts are responsible for a lot of leaked info.
This happens a lot on PSN or Xboxlive.

if it was on Steam I think it is very legit.
Ofcourse yes... But this is probably a case of someone jumping the gun and making it visible too early. How could it possibly be a purposeful fake leak is more what the discussion is about.
 
I'm gonna stir the hornets nest.......is that Blizzard Mountain in the far back left of the leaked screenshot. Is Nexus the Hot Wheels DLC looping around Blizzard, Storm and Fortune Island?🤔🤔🤔
Looking at an upscaled version, most likely not.

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Does anyone know of a fix for the XJR-15 not showing? I've reinstalled the game and even tried looking through the auction house but for whatever reason the car does not show up for me, nor does the barn find trigger. I am apparently not the only who has had this issue neither.
 
Well, I'd rather have Hot Wheels cars in FH5 than in the new FM, don't you agree?
True, but I don't think that their inclusion in the FH series necessarily means they won't ever turn up in the FM series, but we can hope.

There would be a much better way for them to leverage a Hot Wheels partnership in the FM series that seems super obvious to me:

Make a Hot Wheels car pack that includes relevant cars that HW has castings of (for example Acura NSX GT3, Corvette C8.R, Shadow MkII, Dekon Monza, etc). If you download the pack so you can paint the cars you can enter into a livery competition. For each car, 1 fantasy livery will be selected and 1 realistic livery will be selected. The fantasy livery will become part of a general series, and the realistic one will become part of a special Forza premium series (all metal, RR tires, etc).

The crossover makes sense to me. I can't imagine any painter in Forza that wouldn't think it was pretty awesome to have their livery turned into a real toy, for HW collectors it could be an excuse to buy the game for their kids or for themselves to try on their kids console (I know many Forza players who started playing because they bought the game for their kids, then tried it out and liked it) and possibly enter the livery contest themselves, and I'm quite sure there are a lot of both Forza players and regular HW collectors that would buy the resulting series off the shelf.

While it wouldn't please the guys who like the wacky fantasy cars I guess, it would make Hot Wheels fans happy and the more serious racing game guys happy because they get some more relevant, requested cars added to the game.
While Minecraft wouldn't have been my preference, it at least would've been something unique to add and would've given the game some sort of standout feature.
I'm not sure Minecraft would have been unique though going on their previous run. It could be done unique yes, but I'm not sure what it would bring other than silly graphics... Although they have shown that was all they really needed for them to include something with the Lego expansion.

The Lego one was a huge missed opportunity in my opinion, the only way I saw it being interesting was if you could actually build something, or at the very least swap out some parts on some of the cars. I imagined being able to swap out tires for big off road tires and some big exhaust pipes and things like that at the very least. It would have been a cute touch to build a festival site where you have to choose what part you build first, like building the garage first to upgrade your car, building a dealership to buy more, building the concert stage to draw more people and get a "rep" or "fans" (or whatever they were calling the XP then) boost, and so on. Shame it basically turned out to be a re-skin.
No offense to anyone here if you are on-board with this being just a rumor, but the amount of people I see believing this to be true because it was advertised on Steam for a few hours is mind boggling to me.

To that point, the people that came back at me to tell me the Steam was an official source...no, it isn't, the only official source at this point is PG/T10.

Why is that so hard to understand for some people? Are people really that gullible at this point that they believe everything they see on the Internet?
I think everyone here knows it isn't confirmed yet, but as others have pointed out this is almost equal to a MS Store leak and way different than one of those "some random online store in Russia put up some picture of a car so that means it's in the next DLC" kind of situation we have seen in the past.

This is what you get though when you are slow to deliver something and are vague with your playerbase. People are getting pretty impatient for news and we haven't really got anything from them in terms of hints or teasers or etc, so it's to be expected when something does come out that people will jump on it. Not that I'm saying I think they should have rushed the release of it or been giving us all kinds of teasers and stuff either, just that it seems like a fairly natural result of built up anticipation.

If it does end up being fake, I think it also speaks a bit to how low the expectations are that so many would find a rehash of an old DLC pretty believable.
 
Somewhat disappointed in the Hot Wheel expansion. That being said I prefer Hot Wheels cars over the Lego Cars we got in FH4. Even though the Hot Wheel car pack that was released towards the end in FH4 was pretty meh. Also, since the next series covers July the 4th it would make sense if it would use only American cars. Plus, the last three cars of the car pass should also be American cars.
 
There would be a much better way for them to leverage a Hot Wheels partnership in the FM series that seems super obvious to me:

Make a Hot Wheels car pack that includes relevant cars that HW has castings of (for example Acura NSX GT3, Corvette C8.R, Shadow MkII, Dekon Monza, etc). If you download the pack so you can paint the cars you can enter into a livery competition. For each car, 1 fantasy livery will be selected and 1 realistic livery will be selected. The fantasy livery will become part of a general series, and the realistic one will become part of a special Forza premium series (all metal, RR tires, etc).

The crossover makes sense to me. I can't imagine any painter in Forza that wouldn't think it was pretty awesome to have their livery turned into a real toy, for HW collectors it could be an excuse to buy the game for their kids or for themselves to try on their kids console (I know many Forza players who started playing because they bought the game for their kids, then tried it out and liked it) and possibly enter the livery contest themselves, and I'm quite sure there are a lot of both Forza players and regular HW collectors that would buy the resulting series off the shelf.

While it wouldn't please the guys who like the wacky fantasy cars I guess, it would make Hot Wheels fans happy and the more serious racing game guys happy because they get some more relevant, requested cars added to the game.
I do hope they pick up more cars that are available as toy cars. The 5 non-Hot Wheels branded cars in FH3 DLC, only the Ford De Luxe is available as a toy car by Hot Wheels at that time and Zonda R going to be available some time this year.

If not, I think they can still do a competition like that considering a lot of cars available in FH5 Hot Wheels has a casting made. Using base game cars could open the competition to everyone too.
I'm not sure Minecraft would have been unique though going on their previous run. It could be done unique yes, but I'm not sure what it would bring other than silly graphics... Although they have shown that was all they really needed for them to include something with the Lego expansion.
Pretty much after the Lego DLC I'm okay with rehasing Hot Wheels DLC again, I know that loops and driving on walls are doable in event lab but a well designed map with those elements will better than what was made in Eventlab.

Also I have no idea how they are going to make a Minecraft map work. Destroyable blocks and sections of blocky forest, desert and buildings will just make it looks like a reskin Lego DLC.
 
So are we going to get to Swamp realm, a Ruins realm, a Water realm, a Storm realm, a Desert realm, a Monument realm, a Lava realm and an Ice realm?
 
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@Torni I've just played your Airfield Race 2.0. A vast improvement bud. I kept getting lost before lol. I raced it in my S1 899 Opel Manta. The car was too powerful for the track I think (or I was too poor a driver 😂😂😂). Going to try it again later in an A800 car, I think it will better suit the courses twists and turns.

A great track.
 
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