Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[Populuxe]

I was in a rush to get the new cars this morning before heading to work. I tried the photo challenge since I only needed one more point to hit 20, and was very surprised the Jesko wasn't eligible considering they show it right there in the challenge photo. I didn't have time to figure out what was eligible, so I'm still stuck at 19 points until I get home.

 

[skazz]

I was in a rush to get the new cars this morning before heading to work. I tried the photo challenge since I only needed one more point to hit 20, and was very surprised the Jesko wasn't eligible considering they show it right there in the challenge photo. I didn't have time to figure out what was eligible, so I'm still stuck at 19 points until I get home.

Now you can show off by completing the challenge with the D-class 300 SL


The Jesko being on the picture was clearly a joke since it's been tested as the fastest (upgraded) car in FH5, and they are clearly aware of this.

 

[Populuxe]

Now you can show off by completing the challenge with the D-class 300 SL

To finish off last week's daily challenges, it was necessary to gift a car. I didn't have any to gift, so I bought a 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR for 143,000,000 credits and gave it away. I figured if I've got to buy a car from the autoshow to gift, then I might as well go big.

 

[Digolgrin]

So both the Ioniq 5 N and the Kia EV6 GT are Sports Utility Heroes-class cars, which makes sense now that I realize this is probably Team Off-Road's reward for 'winning' the Race-Off. But holy crap, the Ioniq 5 N is actually just a few tens of PI points behind the Urus in terms of stock PI, and it's an EV so you can tweak its top speed on the fly using final drive tuning. Now I know why they didn't just make the Ioniq a Series reward.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

ioniq 5 N 8-speed or no?
the playground left the car lacking resources unfortunately.

Cars - Hyundai IONIQ 5 N - Missing Manual Mode/Gear Shifts in HUD and Animation

Dear PlayGround Games, the Ignition sound mode and simulated manual transmission IONIQ 5 N are what mak the car so special compared to the lifeless EVs we already have in game. Please do not rob the vehicle of its personality. The sound simulation is done so well IRL that you can hit the...

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Cars - Hyundai Ioniq 5 2023 - missing simulated engine

Currently, the Ioniq 5 N is only available in EV mode, this means it’s missing it’s most distinct feature, the simulated engine feature. This should be added as a option.

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[TGR55]

ioniq 5 N 8-speed or no?
the playground left the car lacking resources unfortunately.

Cars - Hyundai IONIQ 5 N - Missing Manual Mode/Gear Shifts in HUD and Animation

Dear PlayGround Games, the Ignition sound mode and simulated manual transmission IONIQ 5 N are what mak the car so special compared to the lifeless EVs we already have in game. Please do not rob the vehicle of its personality. The sound simulation is done so well IRL that you can hit the...

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Cars - Hyundai Ioniq 5 2023 - missing simulated engine

Currently, the Ioniq 5 N is only available in EV mode, this means it’s missing it’s most distinct feature, the simulated engine feature. This should be added as a option.

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If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

 

[nukleabomb]

If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

Not wrong, but instead of a drift mode, one could have been an ICE mode.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

But if the car has these features and they don't add them, then the playground was wrong to not add them. unfortunately the car was incomplete, and what made the car interesting is now just another electric car.

 

[Digolgrin]

If you watch their update 35 stream you know the answer for that question. The reason is to differentiate gas car from ev cars. If they simulate it, will it be technically simulating a simulated engine sound?

This is the reason they gave during the stream, yeah, and it does honestly make sense, since Playground has been pro-EV for a long time. But I think the real reason is technical, mostly to do with old code; I had a look at the XML files for the cars, and it looks like each one can only have one set of engine sounds at a time, only changed by engine swaps and upgrades that modify it like.exhaust and intakes. If they wanted to use the simulated ICE and simulated gears, in, say, a new driving mode, that would basically require rewriting that XML code, and the code that handles driving modes, for one car, which might not be seen as worth doing at the possible tail end of a live service game like what FH5 is at now. Thus it's just easier to port what you have from the Nevera and Mustang Mach-E, which just changes the way the drivetrain operates, and stick with the EV mode.

Now, would it be possible to create new "engine swap" and "transmission" upgrades to let players still have that mode but at a price rather than at the press of a button? I think so, they've done it in the past for EV battery swaps and especially the four-speed drift transmission EVs have. But that isn't high on PG's priority list, especially considering how little Hyundai or Microsoft probably actually paid PG to include the Ioniq 5 N in FH5.

 

[The_Greaser]

Out of curiosity: Did they really forget to use the current Kia logo for the UI screen? I mean they have it on the EV6, which is personally a decent EV.

 

[Digolgrin]

Out of curiosity: Did they really forget to use the current Kia logo for the UI screen? I mean they have it on the EV6, which is personally a decent EV.

I think so, now that I think about it. They must've gotten permission from either Hyundai or Kia itself to use it for the sake of readability on the UI screen, but... that doesn't matter when you've got the manufacturer name on a bar on the top of the screen!

 

[Digolgrin]

And now James Pumphrey, the man who was responsible for Donut's famous "Mo Powah Baby" catchphrase, has apparently left too?

 

[FoxMulder]

And now James Pumphrey, the man who was responsible for Donut's famous "Mo Powah Baby" catchphrase, has apparently left too?

Corporate investors ruining another personality driven media outlet by running off the people that built it.

 

[-Fred-]

Nothing of value was lost.

 

[Mae Borowski]

I think if James has left, Nolan won't be far behind

 

[LumpiestFish]

I think Donut get ragged on unfairly. Admittedly, I have never really followed their content particularly closely, but feel as though I’ve seen enough to understand what they’re about. The content stealing is obviously an issue, but from what I’ve seen, the people behind the videos seem like good people land do well at conveying their content for their audience. Their audience is obviously younger, which their content reflects, and I feel they do it well with a slight alternative edge to what feels like the typical hyper masculine bro culture that is heavily infected into youth car culture. I feel like many on here miss the point of of what they are, they’re typically introducing a younger, quite base level automotive fan to stories and knowledge beyond that, in a way that is easily digestible.

 

[Digolgrin]

I think Donut get ragged on unfairly. Admittedly, I have never really followed their content particularly closely, but feel as though I’ve seen enough to understand what they’re about. The content stealing is obviously an issue, but from what I’ve seen, the people behind the videos seem like good people land do well at conveying their content for their audience. Their audience is obviously younger, which their content reflects, and I feel they do it well with a slight alternative edge to what feels like the typical hyper masculine bro culture that is heavily infected into youth car culture. I feel like many on here miss the point of of what they are, they’re typically introducing a younger, quite base level automotive fan to stories and knowledge beyond that, in a way that is easily digestible.

I agree with quite a bit of this. Sure, I think a lot of the animosity here comes from the fact that they don't seem to represent Forza as a brand much at all, what with its previous collaborations with Top Gear--plus, well, they still have that 'bro culture' emanating through everything they do, especially with their appearances in video games, it's really hard to shake that in an interactive format. But the truth is, while they may not fit with Forza as a brand, they're absolutely a great fit for Horizon as a brand--to the point where I bet you anything Playground must have been genuinely excited to have landed that cross-collab deal all those years ago. Their whole thing is tuning and upgrades, which Horizon celebrates with just about every car they add coming with some sort of build potential. If anything, Donut and Horizon were made for each other, lol.

But at the same time... I think it's important to keep in mind that if Donut Media weren't bought by Recurrent Ventures, the company currently running Donut into the ground, in November 2021--which, man, that was just about a week after FH5 came out--this collab wouldn't have happened at all. Ironically, it was Donut Media selling out that led to them being able to collaborate with Forza and The Crew, and now all of that is at the very least in question. I doubt we'll see any issues with, say, a Donut Media car pack, and if we do end up getting Donut Media Part 3 PG could easily say all of the dialogue for the Story we'd get was recorded before James, Zach and Jeremiah left the channel. But FH6 might not be able to get any Donut Media cars to carry over from 5 to 6 as a result, depending on what happens to the channel after James leaves for good. We'll have to see.

 

[RazorSharkz]

I know Donut isn't very popular around here but Pumphrey is Donut. He's the mascot, the star, the main attraction. He's the thing people like about Donut. That will be a huge loss for them, but Pumphrey will find work so don't think this is the end of him on your screens.

 

[pclark06]

But at the same time... I think it's important to keep in mind that if Donut Media weren't bought by Recurrent Ventures, the company currently running Donut into the ground, in November 2021--which, man, that was just about a week after FH5 came out--this collab wouldn't have happened at all. Ironically, it was Donut Media selling out that led to them being able to collaborate with Forza and The Crew, and now all of that is at the very least in question. I doubt we'll see any issues with, say, a Donut Media car pack, and if we do end up getting Donut Media Part 3 PG could easily say all of the dialogue for the Story we'd get was recorded before James, Zach and Jeremiah left the channel. But FH6 might not be able to get any Donut Media cars to carry over from 5 to 6 as a result, depending on what happens to the channel after James leaves for good. We'll have to see.

Motorfest's Donut collab is Donut part 3 /s

(Their collab has more video content and more of them, so that will be ummm fun to look at in the future)

 

[Digolgrin]

Motorfest's Donut collab is Donut part 3 /s

(Their collab has more video content and more of them, so that will be ummm fun to look at in the future)

Well yeah, Ubisoft is actually in-tune with the internet enough to go out and sponsor YouTubers, so of course they're gonna come in with that kinda production value.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Would be playing now but the servers are still down.