Forza Motorsport 6: Apex (PC) Discussion

[GTFan24]

I have another issue, now this pops up

 

[select20]

A PC that runs Forza Apex well... as it stands at fhd 60fps is probably over $1,000 us?

My CPU is $400. My GPU is $400, you need 8Gb ram plus, more like 16Gb ($100) to be safe, you need at least a 240Gb ssd ($100) to have reasonable space, then motherboard ($200), case $50, psu $100 and then a copy of Windows $100.

I mean I see a lot of the guys here who have their pc spec and many run GTX980s which is a $750 plus gpu?

Also you can obviously do a lot more with a PC as far as general surfing, apps goes.

$750 for a 980? C'mon man, stop just making stuff up. You can easily get them for around $400 and even right under $400 sometimes. I paid just under $900 for my desktop in January (pre-built) and it has a 970 in it. I'm running this game with settings maxed out averaging 70+ fps. I turn down AA just one setting and I'm sitting mid 80's. This game isn't demanding at all. My 765m laptop was running it at mid 40's at mid settings.

 

[TonyJZX]

I dont live in South Carolina. Thank you for telling us how much they are there. Btw. Who cares. GTX1070. $379. GTX1080. $599.

Also from all reports the game runs better on AMD which shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.

 

[G.T.Ace]

By chance are you using simulation Steering? It's an odd Steering mode and makes joystick response super sensitive.

Yes, but all the other steering modes are considered as driving aids. I don't want any more steering assist (there's even some slight handholding with the simulation mode).

 

[Imari]

Yes, but all the other steering modes are considered as driving aids. I don't want any more steering assist (there's even some slight handholding with the simulation mode).

Yeah, but you don't lose much in the way of bonus percentage for just using normal. Or for ABS, or for clutchless manual. I mean you probably end up with more points for being faster than you do for engaging those modes.

I find that I'm slower with ABS on than off, but the other two I drive with whatever is most comfortable, which is normal and clutchless. It's already hard enough to be smooth with a controller driving stuff like the floppy pony cars, or the twitchy bastard hypercars.

I've never been convinced with Forza's simulation mode anyway, it's certainly not unassisted because it doesn't feel anything like other sims to drive, even with a wheel. It does something funny, and if the choice is two modes that are both messing with your inputs, just pick the one that isn't a prick to drive.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Yeah, but you don't lose much in the way of bonus percentage for just using normal. Or for ABS, or for clutchless manual. I mean you probably end up with more points for being faster than you do for engaging those modes.

I find that I'm slower with ABS on than off, but the other two I drive with whatever is most comfortable, which is normal and clutchless. It's already hard enough to be smooth with a controller driving stuff like the floppy pony cars, or the twitchy bastard hypercars.

I've never been convinced with Forza's simulation mode anyway, it's certainly not unassisted because it doesn't feel anything like other sims to drive, even with a wheel. It does something funny, and if the choice is two modes that are both messing with your inputs, just pick the one that isn't a prick to drive.

I'm not worried about the RPs, more about the sim aspect. Forza, just as GT, is more realistic with everything off, unlike Assetto Corsa etc. But yeah, as you said, even the simulation mode has some stupid assist build in. I might try another steering mode, in the end, the tank slappers that occur in simulation mode aren't exactly realistic either.

The lighting at night is mighty impressive by the way, but also rather performance heavy:

 

[GTFan24]

Does anyone know how to get past that completely blank tab that shows up after you hit the a button to enter? its been the thing avoiding me from playing this game.

 

[taz]

Does anyone know how to get past that completely blank tab that shows up after you hit the a button to enter? its been the thing avoiding me from playing this game.

Do you have the Xbox App installed? Not sure if the game needs it to run, but if it does it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[GTFan24]

Do you have the Xbox App installed? Not sure if the game needs it to run, but if it does it wouldn't surprise me.

Yes i do, but when i hit sign in, the same blank tab shows up

 

[taz]

Yes i do, but when i hit sign in, the same blank tab shows up

Have you tried the page up bypass trick? If that doesn't work you may have to wait on a fix, or maybe try the official Forza forum to see if anyone there found a fix.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

I still can't open the Windows Store. I've done some googling and it seems like I have a corrupt Windows user. Ugh.

 

[GTFan24]

Have you tried the page up bypass trick? If that doesn't work you may have to wait on a fix, or maybe try the official Forza forum to see if anyone there found a fix.

Page up bypass trick? How does that work?

 

[FoRiZon]

I notice the graphic differences on both 6 Apex in PC and 6 in XBone. Mainly the rain drops which slightly improved by fidelity + flow and HDR (sun glare) that has got more contrast.

Page up bypass trick? How does that work?

While holding Page Up, close the popup that shows the error.

 

[ImaRobot]

I'm not worried about the RPs, more about the sim aspect. Forza, just as GT, is more realistic with everything off, unlike Assetto Corsa etc. But yeah, as you said, even the simulation mode has some stupid assist build in. I might try another steering mode, in the end, the tank slappers that occur in simulation mode aren't exactly realistic either.

The lighting at night is mighty impressive by the way, but also rather performance heavy:

The thing is that simulation Steering is not very realistic in itself. All its doing is removing the dampers in the inputs and making the Steering 1:1, mimicking an actual wheel, but with such a minimal amount of degrees of rotation you have on the sticks, it just makes it an unrealistic approach.

 

[Nielsen]

The thing is that simulation Steering is not very realistic in itself. All its doing is removing the dampers in the inputs and making the Steering 1:1, mimicking an actual wheel, but with such a minimal amount of degrees of rotation you have on the sticks, it just makes it an unrealistic approach.

Simulation steering can be very rewarding when mastered, but it sure is weird getting back to just after playing other racing games which don't circumvent the rotation allowed by a controller stick.

 

[G.T.Ace]

I'm used to PC sims more than games like GT and FM already, so.... will try the other modes.
The thing is, that the steering itself is no problem, but when you countersteer it suddenly accelerates the input by quite a margin.

 

[Pebb]

$750 for a 980? C'mon man, stop just making stuff up. You can easily get them for around $400 and even right under $400 sometimes. I paid just under $900 for my desktop in January (pre-built) and it has a 970 in it. I'm running this game with settings maxed out averaging 70+ fps. I turn down AA just one setting and I'm sitting mid 80's. This game isn't demanding at all. My 765m laptop was running it at mid 40's at mid settings.

Personally if I was building a PC for Forza Motorsport 6: Apex, then I would wait for the NVidia 1070 or 1080 to release before spending some money on a new PC. And while the 980Ti and Titan X will be getting price drops. In the end, I think passing up on the new generation of graphics cards is a small step in the wrong direction.

Yet in the world of PC gaming everyone has their own preference when it comes to new vs old.

 

[Paiky]

Apex is my First Forza game ever but I can manage quickly good laps. Overall P4 of over 52k @ Brand Hatch second event O.O Awesome game so far!

 

[Turbotwin01]

Anyone know if it would be possible for a friend of mine to download it, put it on a stick, and give it too me?

 

[FoRiZon]

Anyone know if it would be possible for a friend of mine to download it, put it on a stick, and give it too me?

No. This isnt Steam.

 

[prousonhairy]

Apex is my First Forza game ever but I can manage quickly good laps. Overall P4 of over 52k @ Brand Hatch second event O.O Awesome game so far!


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I see a couple guys on that leaderboard that are also on a lot of the normal Forza 6 leaderboards. LMR Harmonic and BAM bOx both have amazing times on a lot of tracks. 👍

Edit: oh yeah good job on your time.

 

[Maxrevv]

Just finished the whole tour. Been waiting to play Forza 6 since it came out, but I don't have an XOne, so this Apex version is a godsend.

Loving everything so far, freezes are quite rare in my case, only occurring on the last tour race. Everything else works like a dream, and the visuals look uncanny at times. Currently running at 1080p/60fps with every settings on vehicles and tracks are put on high, while others (shadows and such) are on Medium. AA is on 2x, and there's not a lot of performance issues on my rig (i5-4670, Gigabyte 970, 16GB RAM, running on SSD).

All in all, everything's going well, considering the game is still in Beta.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Did get some stuttering when using the dynamic settings (most likely because the game is changing settings up/down too quickly), but when I just use my own settings (very similar to Maxrevv's settings) all is well, no stuttering, but smooth all the way. 👍

Really liking this so far.

 

[mister dog]

I have another issue, now this pops up

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Over @ the service center, we would request you to clear cookies and caché files and try again

 

[McClarenDesign]

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[Maxrevv]

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Nice vid, what program did you use to record Apex? Shadowplay does not work on this game.

How does one check the FPS counter too, I wonder? Doesn't work as well in this game, shadowplay, msi afterburner, CAM.

 

[Techy]

Is it me or is the hitching/stuttering more serious than I thought? Because I was doing a 6-lap LMP race at Sebring (the Spotlight event) and the game locked up for 10 seconds on the last lap. I assumed the game just crashed but after waiting those 10 seconds the game suddenly resumed gameplay. Sadly waiting was in vain as I ended up heading straight for a wall.. It isn't just this event either. It also happened in Rio with the new Ford GT, the Touring Car challenge... I have the settings set to Dynamic, which makes me assume the game will be smart enough to turn down some settings. I also checked up on my VRAM usage, GPU usage... everything looks okay (Rivatuner overlays do not seem to work). By the way I have a 280X.

Perhaps I'll grab the latest AMD driver update and see if it'll turn out better, even though the release notes for the driver do not mention Forza 6 Apex in the slightest..

 

[Imari]

Is it me or is the hitching/stuttering more serious than I thought? Because I was doing a 6-lap LMP race at Sebring (the Spotlight event) and the game locked up for 10 seconds on the last lap. I assumed the game just crashed but after waiting those 10 seconds the game suddenly resumed gameplay. Sadly waiting was in vain as I ended up heading straight for a wall.. It isn't just this event either. It also happened in Rio with the new Ford GT, the Touring Car challenge... I have the settings set to Dynamic, which makes me assume the game will be smart enough to turn down some settings. I also checked up on my VRAM usage, GPU usage... everything looks okay (Rivatuner overlays do not seem to work). By the way I have a 280X.

Perhaps I'll grab the latest AMD driver update and see if it'll turn out better, even though the release notes for the driver do not mention Forza 6 Apex in the slightest..

Yeah, it's potentially quite a problem. I find that for me, dynamic just doesn't work. It's far better just setting the graphics settings to whatever you want, even having everything on low is very playable outside of dynamic mode. I don't think they've dialed it in yet.

Apart from that, I find that I often get stuttering after a few races. Restarting the game usually fixes it. Sometimes I'll just get stuttering in general, and restarting the computer usually fixes that. I think the game has a few major memory leaks or something, because there are real issues with playing it for any length of time.

It crashes on me sometimes too, but I haven't figured out any cause or solution for that. Sometimes it just happens, as far as I can tell.

Hopefully some of this helps. But yeah, it can be pretty bad. Try turning Dynamic off if you haven't, that's been the biggest improvement for me. With Dynamic on some tracks are just unplayable.

 

[chromatic9]

T10 has done a great job on the performance and providing settings. Looking forward to future games.

Hopefully soon we can get the wheel support, arseing about with the joypad is downright silly but I'm expecting just some select Fanatec exclusive wheels. Really hope they can ditch the nonsense and support G25/27 Thrustmaster etc. This is not the XID domain so lets not pretend so.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

The recent Windows 10 update has fixed my Windows Store problem. I'm going to finally download it tomorrow. I can't wait!