Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[nukleabomb]

Interesting they showed the international layout on the track map and not the Grand Prix circuit.

Honestly Maggotts and Becketts would have been better for Silverstone

 

[AttackDickie]

Hits different when you own PC2 with its historic version.
Love the FM series but hate their presentation and the way they sell the games.

 

[SU_Tempest]

GTP has a "confirmed car and track list" thread, you know:

Forza Motorsport (8) Confirmed Car and Track List

Hi all, I am going to be posting the official car list link below, as well as the running tally GTP has: https://forza.net/news/forza-motorsport-car-list https://www.gtplanet.net/forza-motorsport-2023-guide-20230611/#car-list I hopefully will eventually be able to keep my own running list on...

www.gtplanet.net

However it hasn't been updated since June. @YoungRhombus are you able to continue the updates?


Also @Famine has put a ton of work into the official GTP guide for FM2023 which includes car and track lists: https://www.gtplanet.net/forza-motorsport-2023-guide-20230611/

I didn't know, actually. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the GTP guide. Admittedly, I don't think of checking the Guides tab very often.

Yes, very much so.

I won't delve off-topic too long, but my Haha reaction is because that might be the understatement of the decade.

 

[UKMikey]

Hits different when you own PC2 with its historic version.
Love the FM series but hate their presentation and the way they sell the games.

I like it for the way you can drive it straight out of the box without tweaking the controller settings. The presentation doesn't bother me so much once I'm on track (or at all, to be honest) and I'm happy to have as much information as they can throw at me before the game releases.

 

[TokoTurismo]

The presentation also doesn't bother me much, as T10 are not trying to treat their game something that it's not like a 'certain' company I know. After all, it's a style of presentation I grew to appreciate from T10 compared to past forzas. Also, I really like that T10 are taking their time with the marketing, them showcasing car/track combo videos have been awesome! Things are starting to pick up speed I see.

Keep it up Chris & T10!

 

[AttackDickie]

I like it for the way you can drive it straight out of the box without tweaking the controller settings. The presentation doesn't bother me so much once I'm on track (or at all, to be honest) and I'm happy to have as much information as they can throw at me before the game releases.

I haven't touched my PC2 controller settings on the XSX and I'm fine most of the time, some cars and tracks are actually more driveable out of the box than FM7! But I get where you're coming from and I kind of agree about the presentation once you're on the track.

The presentation also doesn't bother me much, as T10 are not trying to treat their game something that it's not like a 'certain' company I know. After all, it's a style of presentation I grew to appreciate from T10 compared to past forzas. Also, I really like that T10 are taking their time with the marketing, them showcasing car/track combo videos have been awesome! Things are starting to pick up speed I see.

Keep it up Chris & T10!

I'm not talking about GT, PC2 is the standard for me.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I'm not talking about GT, PC2 is the standard for me.

I know. I only wanted to share my feelings with that. Nothing too personal.

 

[UKMikey]

I haven't touched my PC2 controller settings on the XSX and I'm fine most of the time, some cars and tracks are actually more driveable out of the box than FM7! But I get where you're coming from and I kind of agree about the presentation once you're on the track.

I couldn't even get round the track at first.

A calendar of race events sure would be preferable to the FM6-style story-like tours, however. Guess this is their idea of curation but they really should start with ****boxes and gradually move up through the classes if they want a gripping career and a balanced sense of progression IMO. Let's hope they have a branching structure so I can skip SUVs.

Hopefully the physics are an improvement on FM7's driveability but it's the steering that I think I preferred. A little road feedback via the pad would also go a long way.

 

[AttackDickie]

I couldn't even get round the track at first.

A calendar of race events sure would be preferable to the FM6-style story-like tours, however. Guess this is their idea of curation but they really should start with ****boxes and gradually move up through the classes if they want a gripping career and a balanced sense of progression IMO. Let's hope they have a branching structure so I can skip SUVs.

Hopefully the physics are an improvement on FM7's driveability but it's the steering that I think I preferred. A little road feedback via the pad would also go a long way.

What did you play it on? Because I couldn't get on with it on the base Xbox one, so I wonder if the frame rate drops caused
problems. PC2s biggest issue for me is how wildly the difficulty can swing from race to race, so I'm hoping FM does a much better job in that area this time out. That's my biggest hope for the game.

 

[UKMikey]

What did you play it on? Because I couldn't get on with it on the base Xbox one, so I wonder if the frame rate drops caused
problems.

Series X. @MrCrynox's tweaks helped me complete a lap and I felt so chuffed but I've kind of shelved the game in favour of ACC now and'll try and come back to it at some point in the future.

 

[PJTierney]

Honestly Maggotts and Becketts would have been better for Silverstone

Yes but I suspect the reason they chose the Hamilton Straight was because of the updated buildings and the bridges that cross the circuit. Those were added in real life around 2021/2022, and have been in the F1 games since F1 2021 (Codemasters sometimes get to see the architectural concepts before they’re built in real-life).

 

[Populuxe]

I still haven’t preordered this game yet. I don’t know why. I guess I’m just not feeling it. Maybe as we get closer to launch, I’ll start getting more excited, but for now, I’m kind of 50-50 on getting it.

 

[UKMikey]

I still haven’t preordered this game yet. I don’t know why. I guess I’m just not feeling it. Maybe as we get closer to launch, I’ll start getting more excited, but for now, I’m kind of 50-50 on getting it.

Tomorrow's video could be make or break. Or the one after. I waved my money at them like Fry but can always yank it back and cancel should something catastrophic occur like a limited availability car dealership that's tied to real world prices, or only being able to grind car XP on one specific track on Fridays.

 

[meganinja]

Oh, how I wish that includes Fuji Speedway... All those layouts.

Maybe Hakone will be about that....

(i took the screenshot from my phone i had no idea it would get so big in here)

 

[Northstar]

They are not waiting around for these car reveals. This time it's classic GP racers.

 

[Beezer215]

When should this be available on Steam? Is there no preorder and it's only available Oct 10th?

 

[McLaren]

When should this be available on Steam? Is there no preorder and it's only available Oct 10th?

Steam does not allow pre-orders unless they feel it's beneficial, tmu.

Our experience with pre-purchases (or pre-orders) is that they tend to be ineffective unless it’s a heavily anticipated, heavily marketed title, and even then we encourage titles to have short pre-purchase periods on Steam.

For most games, we've seen much better success if you wait until release and run with a discount off your product during the first week of sales. This gives your title the biggest opportunity to create buzz and visibility at a point where customers can actually play the game and share their excitement with their friends. Customers playing your game also means those customers’ friends are seeing them launch the game and post screenshots, discuss in the forums, etc., which can drive those other users to check out the game themselves and take advantage of the limited-time discount.

Most pre-purchase campaigns just don’t bring in much in the way of sales, and it's far better--in terms of both revenue and customer awareness--to save that buzz and excitement for when customers can actually play your game or use your software.

Running a prepurchase/preorder can also be a risk for both customers and Valve.

For these reasons, we do not support running a pre-purchase except in a few rare cases with partners with which we have a well-established relationship and that have a proven track record on Steam.

Edit* If there is going to be a pre-order for this game on Steam, it seems your best bet is to check once a week or so as it gets closer to release.

 

[JackRyanWMU]

I have it Wishlisted on Steam, so it should give me an alert when it does become available for preorder.

 

[Beezer215]

Ya, I have it wishlisted too. I guess only time will tell. Didn't know if that was only an exclusive of getting it through Microsoft/Xbox site.

 

[Mae Borowski]

1. 2017 Acura NSX
2. 2018 Acura #36 NSX GT3 [DLC]
3. 2020 Acura #6 ARX-05 DPi
4. 1990 Alpine GTA Le Mans
5. 2017 Alpine A110
6. 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
7. 2018 Apollo Intensa Emozione
8. 1958 Aston Martin DBR1
9. 1964 Aston Martin DB5
10. 1989 Aston Martin #18 AMR1
11. 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
12. 2017 Aston Martin #7 V12 Vantage GT3
13. 2019 Aston Martin Valhalla Concept
14. 2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus 5.2 FSI Quattro
15. 2014 Audi #2 R18 e-tron Quattro
16. 2016 Audi #17 TT RS
17. 2016 Audi R8 V10 Plus
18. 2018 Audi #44 R8 LMS GT3
19. 2018 Audi TT RS
20. 2020 Audi RS 3 Sedan
21. 2021 Audi RS 6 Avant
22. 2021 Audi RS e-tron GT
23. 2020 Automobili Pininfarina Battista
24. 1965 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII
25. 2014 BAC Mono
26. 2003 Bentley #7 Speed 8
27. 2014 Bentley #17 Continental GT3
28. 1991 BMW M3
29. 1999 BMW #15 V12 LMR
30. 2017 BMW #24 M6 GTLM
31. 2018 BMW #1 M8 GTE
32. 2019 BMW Z4 Roadster
33. 2021 BMW M4 Competition
34. 1967 Brabham BT24
35. 2019 Brabham BT62
36. 2018 Bugatti Chiron
37. 2019 Bugatti Divo
38. 1970 Buick GSX
39. 1987 Buick Regal GNX
40. 2021 Cadillac #31 DPi V.R
41. 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
42. 2023 Cadillac #1 V-Series.R
43. 2023 Cadillac #31 V-Series.R
44. 1966 Chaparral #66 2E
45. 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS
46. 1969 Chevrolet Nova SS
47. 1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
48. 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454
49. 1976 Chevrolet #76 Greenwood Corvette
50. 2014 Chevrolet #3 Corvette C7.R
51. 2015 Chevrolet #10 Corvette Daytona Prototype
52. 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS
53. 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
54. 2020 Chevrolet #3 Corvette C8.R
55. 2020 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray
56. 2024 Chevrolet Corvette E-Ray
57. 1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger
58. 1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster
59. 1969 Dodge Charger R/T
60. 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T
61. 2014 Dodge #93 Viper GTS-R
62. 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon
63. 2013 Donkervoort D8 GTO
64. 1967 Eagle-Weslake T1G
65. 2018 Exomotive Exocet Sport V8 XP-5
66. 1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
67. 1964 Ferrari F-158 F1
68. 1967 Ferrari #24 330 P4
69. 1976 Ferrari #1 312 T2
70. 1990 Ferari #1 641
71. 1992 Ferrari 512 TR
72. 2014 Ferrari California T
73. 2017 Ferrari #25 Corse Clienti 488 Challenge
74. 1965 Ford Mustang GT
75. 1966 Ford #2 GT40 Mk.II
76. 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302
77. 1981 Ford #2 Zakspeed Capri Turbo
78. 1982 Ford #6 Zakspeed Mustang IMSA GT
79. 1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
80. 1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
81. 2005 Ford GT
82. 2014 Ford #17 Focus BTCC
83. 2015 Ford #02 Mk.XXVI Daytona Prototype
84. 2016 Ford #66 GT LM
85. 2017 Ford GT
86. 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
87. 2018 Formula Drift #64 370Z
88. 2020 Formula Drift #151 GR Supra
89. 2019 Ginetta #6 G60 LT P1
90. 1967 Honda RA300
91. 1970 Honda S800
92. 1997 Honda Civic Type-R
93. 2020 Honda #73 Civic Type-R TCR
94. 2017 Holden #22 VF Commodore
95. 2020 Hyundai #98 Veloster N
96. 1959 Jaguar Mk.II 3.8
97. 1983 Jaguar #44 XJR-5
98. 1988 Jaguar #1 XJR-9
99. 1993 Jaguar XJ220
100. 2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupé
101. 2015 Jaguar XKR-S GT
102. 2017 Koenigsegg Agera RS
103. 2020 Koenigsegg Jesko
104. 1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
105. 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
106. 2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
107. 2016 Lamborghini Centanario LP 770-4
108. 2017 Lamborghini Huracán Performante
109. 2018 Lamborghini #63 Huracán Super Trofeo Evo
110. 2019 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37
111. 2020 Lamborghini Huracán Evo
112. 2014 Lexus IS350 F Sport
113. 2015 Lexus RC F
114. 2020 Lexus RC F Track Edition
115. 2021 Lexus LC500
116. 1967 Lotus Type 49
117. 1969 Lola #10 T163
118. 1976 Lotus #5 77
119. 2011 Lotus Evora S
120. 2016 Lotus 3-Eleven
121. 2020 Lotus Evija
122. 2023 Lotus Emira
123. 2020 Lynk & Co #62 03 TCR
124. 2014 Maserati Ghibli S
125. 1967 Mazda Cosmo 110S Series II
126. 1990 Mazda MX-5 Miata
127. 1991 Mazda #55 787B
128. 1991 Mazda #62 RX-7
129. 1992 Mazda 323 GT-R
130. 2010 Mazda #16 B09/86
131. 2014 Mazda #70 Lola B12/80
132. 1966 McLaren #4 M1B
133. 1966 McLaren M2B
134. 1969 McLaren #4 M8B
135. 1976 McLaren #11 M23
136. 1988 McLaren #12 MP4/4
137. 2013 McLaren P1
138. 2015 McLaren P1 GTR
139. 2018 McLaren Senna
140. 2019 McLaren Senna GTR
141. 2018 Mercedes-AMG GT3
142. 2021 Mercedes-AMG One
143. 1954 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL
144. 1989 Mercedes-Benz #63 Sauber C9
145. 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
146. 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
147. 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG
148. 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
149. 1986 Merkur #11 XR4Ti
150. 1958 MG A Twin-Cam
151. 2021 Mini John Cooper Works GP
152. 1988 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
153. 2016 NIO EP9
154. 1969 Nissan #21 R382
155. 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
156. 1984 Nissan #20 Bluebird Super Silouhette
157. 1984 Nissan #11 Skyline Super Silouhette
158. 1985 Nissan #83 GTP ZX-Turbo
159. 1988 Nissan #33 300ZX
160. 1991 Nissan #23 R91CP
161. 1992 Nissan Silvia Club K's
162. 2015 Nissan #23 GT-R LM Nismo
163. 2019 Nissan 370Z Nismo
164. 2020 Nissan GT-R Nismo
165. 2023 Nissan Z
166. 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
167. 2017 Oreca #38 07 ☆
168. 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
169. 1984 Peugeot 205 T16
170. 1993 Peugeot #3 905 EVO 1C
171. 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
172. 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
173. 1955 Porsche 550 Spyder
174. 1957 Porsche 356A Speedster
175. 1970 Porsche #3 917 LH
176. 1983 Porsche #11 956
177. 1987 Porsche #17 962C
178. 1995 Porsche 911 GT2
179. 2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
180. 2015 Porsche #91 911 RSR
181. 2017 Porsche #2 919 Hybrid
182. 2017 Porsche #92 911 RSR
183. 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
184. 2018 Porsche Cayman 718 GTS
185. 2019 Porsche #70 935
186. 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
187. 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S
188. 2021 Porsche 911 GT3
189. 2022 Porsche Mission R
190. 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
191. 2019 RAESR Tachyon Speed
192. 2021 Rimac Nevera
193. 2004 Saleen S7
194. 1969 Toyota 2000GT
195. 1992 Toyota #99 Eagle Mk.III
196. 1999 Toyota #3 GT-ONE TS020
197. 2014 Toyota #8 TS040 Hybrid
198. 2020 Toyota GR Supra
199. 2015 Ultima Evolution 1020
200. 2017 Vauxhall #66 Astra [DLC]
201. 1983 Volkswagen Golf GTI
202. 2014 Volkswagen Golf R
203. 2021 Volkswagen Golf R
204. 2017 VUHL 05RR
205. 2019 Zenvo TSR-S


ive been keeping my own list the past few months. not sure its entirely accurate but this is what i have thus far

 

[SloGrumpyDad]

I wonder if there will be some kind of reward/gift for past Forza experience. It has been done with quite a few titles. Don’t get me wrong, I hope we have to grind for vehicles. I do not like the throw it all at me at once system.

I am looking forward to strategically picking cars and grinding out the upgrades especially since I don’t have a ton of time to play.

 

[LumpiestFish]

The lighting feels a little stylised (going off the limited footage we’ve got so far), has the yellow-ish tinge that some circuits had in the past few games. Would like to see some different TODs and weather conditions.

The car reveals have been great though, a lot less nervous about what will be cut now, considering a lot of the novelty cars will a big portion of those.

 

[Shaun]

This will be my first experience will FM, previously had always been a PS gamer and when the shortage hit putting PS5's into the unobtainium market I went down the PC path hit instead.
Don't regret that decision at all and won't go back to console gaming now as I'm invested in the PC world.
I'm looking forward to hopefully taking me back to the old days of Gran Turismo in the sense of plenty of variety cars that can be obtained and slowly built up, that's what I'm hoping for anyway.

On PC I have AC, ACC and AMS2 and enjoy them all and not looking to replace them but hopefully compliment them with FM.
I'll get it on Gamepass initially to have a look and if worthwhile purchase one on the available editions.
On that a quick question if I may, is there any content that will not be obtainable unless the game is pre-ordered, or can the bonus pre-order content be purchased at a later date?

 

[SestoScudo]

Honestly I do hope the Audi R10 TDI, Audi R15 TDI and its plus variant and the 2011 Audi R18 TDI return.

Love me some Audi Lmp1's.

 

[egl92]

I hope the absence of the Brabham BT45B is due to its Alfa Romeo engine and license issues with Stellantis.

But after the return of Italian part of Stellantis to Horizon, I want to believe that will be present.

What surprises me more is that the Porsche 804 does not appear.

 

[GBalao888]

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I hope the absence of the Brabham BT45B is due to its Alfa Romeo engine and license issues with Stellantis.

But after the return of Italian part of Stellantis to Horizon, I want to believe that will be present.

What surprises me more is that the Porsche 804 does not appear.

The Porsche 804 won't be competitive enough against all these classic F1 cars, which is why it was placed in the "Forza specials" division back in Motorsport 7.

 

[egl92]

The Porsche 804 won't be competitive enough against all these classic F1 cars, which is why it was placed in the "Forza specials" division back in Motorsport 7.

Yup, sorry. I did not remember that it was in another category.

 

[PJTierney]

I still haven’t preordered this game yet. I don’t know why. I guess I’m just not feeling it. Maybe as we get closer to launch, I’ll start getting more excited, but for now, I’m kind of 50-50 on getting it.

The game will still be there when you’re ready, no need to pre-order unless you want that 5 day early access edition.

 

[skazz]

I wonder if there will be some kind of reward/gift for past Forza experience. It has been done with quite a few titles. Don’t get me wrong, I hope we have to grind for vehicles. I do not like the throw it all at me at once system.

I am looking forward to strategically picking cars and grinding out the upgrades especially since I don’t have a ton of time to play.

There used to be Forza Hub which did exactly that, but they got rid of it a few years ago. So no

 

[AutumnalGlow]

There used to be Forza Hub which did exactly that, but they got rid of it a few years ago. So no

FH5 still had a couple free cars for those who played past Xbox One titles, so FM may have something similar. It's just not tiered based on how much you progressed in them.