Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread

[-Fred-]

The BMW V12 LMR won 7 races in it's short lived 2 year career throughout ALMS and ELMS; Sebring, Le Mans, Silverstone, Laguna Seca, Las Vegas, Charlotte and Sonoma.

Now, what are the 4 races in game for this week's Motorsport Endurance Championship featuring the V12 LMR? Sebring, Le Mans, Silverstone and Laguna Seca.

 

[deththrasher]

Some people are never happy. This issue isn't unique to Forza, sadly; just look at the latest GT7 update thread. Already a few voices sharing their displeasure over a couple of the cars or complaining that PD wasted "6 months" modeling a vehicle "no one" wants.

PDs car choices do baffle me sometimes. They spend time adding a CHR, but haven't added a legendary fan favourite likethe FD2 civic which was already modelled to a high standard in GT6. I see why people complain but yea it's hard to moan at free when you think about it.

 

[LumpiestFish]

Where FM could imitate FH is in the pageantry. Racing events are touring carnivals and FM is too dry in that aspect.

I think they’ve done fantastic with the trackside environments in FM. They’ve used a bit of creative licence, but kept it realistic. Nordschleife at night is incredible.

The menus could definitely use some life though. An idea could be having a few different home spaces representing race paddocks from different types of events. E.G an amateur or historic event, with your car in an easy up marquee and humble surroundings, or a proper clean professional garage area a la an F1 team.

Add in some ambient paddock noises such as rattle guns, engine start ups, Marshall calls on a PA etc.

Would give a lot more life to the game.

 

[Stang616]

I tend to ignore everyone that isn't on this site. Social Media, Youtube and other things like that, it's just a bunch of people that think they are the spokespeople for everyone that plays the game. I've rebutted a few but gave up when they refused to see that their opinion wasn't the only one that matters.

 

[Jezza819]

I think they did a pretty good job with the sound on the M4 GT3. It sounds like it's own thing and not just the generic sound they've used before on GT race cars. I'll probably get it to 50 before the M8.

 

[Nacho Libre]

I would like validation from fellow Nvidia users, but it seems that with the new DLSS model that was updated today, DLSS at quality is now just a notch below the native TAA, and the image is sharper overall.

Still, FM won't support other tech like frame generation or ray reconstruction, but DLSS will get you nice framerates at high settings with RTGI enabled.

 

[skazz]

But they already done something in PC that the consoles can't (RTGI), so the game on a theoretical newer console can only catch up and that's about two years down the line.

Actually, adding RTGI to FM23 confirms my comment about them adding new tech into the PC version purely to test in advance of the next game.

The reason why I can say this: They confirmed in an early FM23 update that it was actually PG not T10 who developed RTGI tech, and T10 was working to add it to the FM23 game engine.

So this means they probably added RTGI in to FM23 in order to test in preparation for FH6. Exactly as I was suggesting.

 

[Bilu]

With FH5 coming to PS5, Motorsport will also arrive, I'm guessing an announcement in June.

 

[doblocruiser]

I really hope so! Two titans on the same Platform. That should push both T10 and PD to their max 👍

 

[skazz]

I really hope so! Two titans on the same Platform. That should push both T10 and PD to their max 👍

I don't think it's that likely, to be honest. They would need sufficient sales to justify the work, and with GT7 I'd argue that FM23 will struggle.

FH5 is a completely different proposition: It's a much more popular series with no real direct competitors (The Crew: Motorfest and TDU:Solar Crown are both lacking in comparison in my opinion).

 

[CTznOfTime]

This is the preparation for the 2030 Superbowl of Arcade-Sim car games on console

Forza Motorsports 8 vs GT8 @ PS6
Both of them better be in VR too !

I am buying... Great as 50th birthday present...

...To go along with a real Porsche, if they they are still relatively affordable then.... Lol


Getting a bit ahead of myself here... 2030 Hype train tickets, free right now

 

[Tornado]

Lol there's no market for Forza 8 on PS5.

 

[Bilu]

Lol there's no market for Forza 8 on PS5.

So there's no market for the AC Evo?

 

[Nacho Libre]

So there's no market for the AC Evo?

EVO will only launch fully this year on PC, as their roadmap goes, so any console port may take more time after that. While its more hardcore than GT and FM, it's making strides to be friendlier/more accessible so it may have a market niche of its own, because it will have tracks AND open environments.

 

[GBalao888]

With FH5 coming to PS5, Motorsport will also arrive, I'm guessing an announcement in June.

FM8 coming to PS5 is quite likely now. Even if it will face stiff competition with GT7, plus the fact that the game still has yet to recover from its controversial launch and reception, Microsoft will see it as an opportunity to boost sales, regardless, as they would think it's a great idea for their multi-platform strategy.

Weird timeline we're living in now, and I never thought the day would come where Forza would come to PlayStation.

 

[Tornado]

So there's no market for the AC Evo?

Does Assetto Corsa Evo still have a middling reception a year and a half after launch, multiple pre-release scandals where the developer was accused of lying about game content (to the extent of being used shorthand as a punchline when discussing other games' prerelease periods like Ubisoft titles were in the early 2010s), a disastrous launch, multiple stories about publisher mismanagement of the game's development coming out following release and an already-existing mediocre port that already isn't being well supported by the developer? Is Assetto Corsa Evo essentially in the exact same genre as one of Sony's flagship first party franchises? Because if all of those are true for Assetto Corsa Evo as well (quite a feat, since it launched in early access all of two weeks ago ago), then no I don't think it does have much of a market. Luckily, though, there isn't even a date attached yet for the console versions of a PC game that hasn't even fully released yet.
Forza Horizon 5 fits on PS5 like a glove because several years after its launch it is still an extremely popular game with a very good reception that is widely considered the defining title in its little subgenre. It's been a standout win for the Xbox division where those have been in very short supply since the current console generation started. Forza 8 is none of those things. If the rumors are true that Horizon 5 will also be a launch-ish title for Switch 2, the game in the end will make Microsoft more money and goodwill for a single game than they've likely gotten in two console generations. It will sell to entire markets of people who never bothered with Microsoft consoles, be it because of the Xbox being irrelevant outside of the United States or because lots of people only buy Nintendo stuff. It is, undoubtedly, Microsoft's biggest home grown franchise nowadays.



In comparison, Forza Motorsports ceasing to be an XBox exclusive (alongside the slow destruction of the Xbox brand beyond a terminal you use to play Game Pass) is probably more likely to lead to their ultimately no longer being Forza Motorsports games at all than it does pushing Polyphony Digital to make better games for Playstation consoles or whatever. Microsoft, who is already faced with Horizon being a substantially more popular franchise of the two, may very well decide the juice isn't worth the squeeze if people abandon the XBox platform en masse next console generation and they don't have that locked in audience to play FM instead of GT. At the very least they need to show up with a better game than Forza 8 if they actually want to pry people who already own PS5s away from GT7 in meaningful numbers, regardless of if Microsoft does take a flyer and dumps it on the system.