Funny/Strange News Stories

"Nah, I'm a lover not a fighter. I was just in there pulling guys off".

I remember a quote on local rugby years ago where a Hull player had shown "a handsome pair of balls in last year's final". In't never dull in 'Ull.

Would the work to set up the camera be roughly equivalent to providing paint, brush and canvas to an elephant? If so, does that suggest that the photo should not be public domain, or that the paintings done by elephants should also be public domain?

That's what I'm not sure about. The elephant has to physically interact, manipulate tangible equipment... as the macaque did in taking the pre-exposed-pre-focussed picture when it made the final button-press. The key point is that it knew it was doing something. Arguably the elephant is capable of seeing its results in real time, the macaque is unlikely to understand that it took a photograph. If it saw the photograph (and it probably printed hundreds of them) then it wouldn't conceive of any part of the capture/production process or its relation to the camera.

So maybe, rather than the "physical tangible action" being the key it's the "knowing action"? I'm inclined to think that; so the elephant would own the painted picture and the macaque wouldn't own the button-press-photo.

Triggering an IR beam would an unknowing action in the context of photographing the macaque or a snow leopard, for a speeding driver it would arguably be a knowing action, providing the mandatory signs were in place to warn of the camera's presence. So @Famine would be right; the driver would own the picture.

Does that stop it being used as evidence though? I'm pretty sure it would be seizable as evidence and, given that it's up to the police/CCTV-operator to provide the evidence to me from their own storage then they're likely to comply with that seizure prety quickly.
 
The problem is, knowing action or not, neither the elephant nor the monkey has any legal standing at any court of law. The photographer does. If the claim is that the photographer does not own his work because the monkey pressed the button, then Wikimedia is recognizing it as the photo owner and is violating its rights by using its work without permission.

To be honest, I can see no judge siding with Wikimedia on this, as long as the photographer's lawyer is halfway competent.
 
If the claim is that the photographer does not own his work because the monkey pressed the button, then Wikimedia is recognizing it as the photo owner and is violating its rights by using its work without permission.

As I understand it; Wikipedia's argument is that no one owns the photo because it's in the public domain; the "taker" should be the owner but they cannot legally own it.
 
Then the "taker" is not the taker. Merely an instrument of the photographer.
 
Then the "taker" is not the taker. Merely an instrument of the photographer.

In the Big List of Definitions aren't "the taker" and "the photographer" the same thing? Who took the photograph?

Clearly that's the key point. So the macaque did take the photograph, if they were the first taker? :)
 
In the Big List of Definitions aren't "the taker" and "the photographer" the same thing? Who took the photograph?

Clearly that's the key point. So the macaque did take the photograph, if they were the first taker? :)

As with a certain GoPro video taken by a seagull, the act of taking the video or picture was not intentional on the part of the monkey. The act of preparing the camera for photos, by the photographer, was. Thus the photographer owns the picture.

Jackson Pollock's works may be random paint splatters, but that doesn't mean the laws of random chance own the (million dollar+++) rights to his output.
 
A heterosexual couple have got married. More here.

And the happy couple. Doesn't she both look lovely?

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Link A proves everything I ever suspected about contractors.

Link B, I'm a non-belieber of course but he has a point (he didn't compare the accident, he compared being chased by the press in a car, for all kinds of reasons that shouldn't happen, especially to him)

Link C, haaaahahaha :D
 
I used to read that to my class, different times I guess.
The people protesting the decision do make an interesting argument - namely, that although the word can offend, children need exposure to the idea that words can do this, rather than having everything sanitised for them.
 
The people protesting the decision do make an interesting argument - namely, that although the word can offend, children need exposure to the idea that words can do this, rather than having everything sanitised for them.

The word "slut" as I always understood it in Dahl's context was a woman who was untidy/slovenly/lacking in domestic skill. The other meaning is a later one (I think) or at least one that had less prominence before.

So how do we frame the reference for modern children? I'm guessing we don't want to have to explain "slut" in a modern context to 8 year olds (roughly where this book has always been aimed) but nor, as you imply, do we want to serve a steamed, blanched prep-school pudding of a language.

What to do?

Killing the book shouldn't happen, perhaps we could change that word to slag?
 
Killing the book shouldn't happen, perhaps we could change that word to slag?

That's hard to say. I mean, it won't change it all that much, but censorship is still censorship. Better that you explain to children how words drift with time.

Once upon a time, "retarded" was a scientific term, and not an insult. And once upon an older time, "dick" was used copiously in printed material.

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Could be worse... they could be pulling "The Hobbit" off the shelves for use of the "f" word (not that one, the other one) or even:

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I think, in this case, it's touch and go... because Dahl obviously didn't use it in the sexual sense... but using it to refer to a woman gets pretty close to its roots. Better to simply add a disclaimer when carrying it on the shelves.

*Disclaimer: may include the non-offensive use of obsolete terms with alternatively offensive meanings that would offend literal-minded people, such as "LaCrosse" and "Box"
 
The word "slut" as I always understood it in Dahl's context was a woman who was untidy/slovenly/lacking in domestic skill. The other meaning is a later one (I think) or at least one that had less prominence before.
Sounds rather reminiscent of Godfrey Bloom.
 
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