Funny things RICErs say (radically immature car enthusiasts)

In these two specific pictures, I don't see much of a difference

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He has posted in numerous threads, just because I did. I think he looks "did Andrew post recently? Yes? I should bother him by posting something which will probably bother him for my own entertainment."


:lol: Truth

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Actually it does in context, you're just being blind.
The picture you posted was two well done, stances cars. One Civic and one Mustang. Both looked great. And that new comparison is a rice bucket and a stock muscle car that my friend's dad owns.
 
The Mustang hasn't had anything done to it other than a change of rear wheels lol.

I get your point to an extent but still.
 
He's saying that one car is stanced too much just for show while the other just has the right amount stance for functionality.
Well, having big rear wheels are also kind of showing off. I mean, having tires half the width of your car really needed? :odd:
 
It isn't 'ricer' per say, with the whole 'Murica loves 'Murican cars, but I am ok with people saying their Nova has 1000hp, as long as they prove it by either blowing it up, or rebuilding it quite often, on a ricer note, my friend got his Civic to 10000rpm, no balls, but revs for days.

For the post above, you should see the boots on some of those steam rollers eh?
 
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^^^Having actually seen this car run a 10 second 1/4 mile with a small block in person I'd say yes...


It isn't 'ricer' per say, with the whole 'Murica loves 'Murican cars, but I am ok with people saying their Nova has 1000hp, as long as they prove it by either blowing it up, or rebuilding it quite often, on a ricer note, my friend got his Civic to 10000rpm, no balls, but revs for days.

For the post above, you should see the boots on some of those steam rollers eh?

Except with today's aftermarket, there's not reason why you couldn't build a reliable 1,000 horsepower big block Chevy. It's done all the time.
 
Except with today's aftermarket, there's not reason why you couldn't build a reliable 1,000 horsepower big block Chevy. It's done all the time.

Under what budget though. I know it is possible, but my friends seem to think they can do it for under $1000 on a used engine.

I am not a muscle car guy myself, I like the looks of Mustangs, and the Eckerts Mach 40 is beautiful, but this is a bit of a learning experience for me.
 
Bigger tires is one of the best ways to make a bland car more fun... The other being stiffer suspension and roll bars, making the car handle much better.
 
Fast. Reliable. Cheap. Pick 2. You aren't making anywhere near 1000whp for under $1,000 without that thing possibly blowing up after the first crank.
This.

Muscle cars are typically easy to get up to 650hp out of and have it be reliable.

Up until that point, think of it as $1000 for every hundred horsepower (keeping it simple, engines vary). One you crest 600hp things start to add up. Because now its not just all in the motor by everywhere else as well. Honestly that's quite a deal for the money.


$25k-$30k will get you a 1,000 horsepower muscle car that is track able as well (you basically need to build it to be anyways). That's only if you build it that way yourself.

If you have it built, double that price.
 
This.

Muscle cars are typically easy to get up to 650hp out of and have it be reliable.

Up until that point, think of it as $1000 for every hundred horsepower (keeping it simple, engines vary). One you crest 600hp things start to add up. Because now its not just all in the motor by everywhere else as well. Honestly that's quite a deal for the money.


$25k-$30k will get you a 1,000 horsepower muscle car that is track able as well (you basically need to build it to be anyways). That's only if you build it that way yourself.

If you have it built, double that price.

Sounds about right. There are lots of forged/stoked/TT LSX guys running around with 800+whp that have relatively nice street manners and little reliability issues. And while you do need lots of cash to push 1000whp, you don't just start buying random parts and bolting them up. A 25k build car can be faster than a 35k build if they select the correct parts that complement each other most efficiently.
 
Sounds about right. There are lots of forged/stoked/TT LSX guys running around with 800+whp that have relatively nice street manners and little reliability issues. And while you do need lots of cash to push 1000whp, you don't just start buying random parts and bolting them up. A 25k build car can be faster than a 35k build if they select the correct parts that complement each other most efficiently.
Aftermarket is so far out these days tht part selection plays a big roll. A pair of $250 intake manifolds each from a different brand will perform different, but they could also perform the same. Its a bit difficult to understand unless you've been in the scene though. There is no one holy grail of parts when it comes to muscle cars.


And that's the beauty of it. You can keep your car looking stock and having over 3000 horsepower or you can have an all stock car. The guy you are racing has no idea what you might be packing.


The thing with muscle cars is that you can make them into anything you want them to be without paying as much as a super car. You can have an 800hp pro touring '69 charger that will kill a GTR around a track for $50k if you wanted.


And that's the other thing with muscle cars...people think its really really expensive to get into. It doesn't have to be. You can go out right now and buy a almost brand new look muscle car for $7-$10k and flat out smoke most street cars. There aren't a lot out there that will bea tthem if you know what you are looking at. Buit it's all relative. Don't try to make it into being something its not if its stock. Certainly with cheap mods it can be, however.
 
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I seen a Ford Focus with a rear wing on it once. (Sorry no pics) Gotta get that wing on the back there to keep that already understeering fwd car's 120hp in check. It was truly woeful.

I will get some pics soon of a nasty paint job on a Lambo if you guys would like.
 
I seen a Ford Focus with a rear wing on it once. (Sorry no pics) Gotta get that wing on the back there to keep that already understeering fwd car's 120hp in check. It was truly woeful.

I will get some pics soon of a nasty paint job on a Lambo if you guys would like.
They'd fit the "questionable modifications" thread.
 
Or putting on smaller tires like the GT86 and the Fiat Panda, proven by James May :sly:

I hate to have to say Top Gear has the right idea, but yeah, I rarely hear that putting on larger/wider tires makes a car more fun. Quite the opposite really: most modern cars are borderline over-tired anyways. That's the beauty of things like NA Miatas and the toyabaru's; you don't have to be going license-losing fast to have fun.
 
Please don't start this again.

You realize by just NOT POSTING instead of playing mini-mod, your end goal is generally achieved. I don't understand why younger members feel the need to post things along this line, as it doesn't contribute to the thread nor has any impact on whatever it is they are trying to stop.

The fact he claimed to have a French accent when he is Quebecois is comparable to me claiming an English accent because I speak English, despite having a very American Pacific Northwest accent.

He has posted in numerous threads, just because I did. I think he looks "did Andrew post recently? Yes? I should bother him by posting something which will probably bother him for my own entertainment."

I'm trying to improve, and you can ask various people, who will tell you that I have, but I don't need him to try to undo my positive progress.

You came into this thread to state the obvious, got butt-hurt when I made a sarcastic response, further kept at it by trying to explain the thread, etc. I don't go out of my way at all at this point because, honestly, it seems useless. Your claim of self-improvement just goes perfectly with you thinking people follow you around the forum. Nothing seems to have changed at all - you show up in a thread, play mini-mod or make some obnoxious claim, then play the persecution card when called on it.

If you really want to improve, stop playing mini-mod, stop trying to get the last word, stop making outrageous claims, and drop the whole "The Infield" is out to get me thing. The number of members that have gone from being "well, Andrew doesn't seem that bad" to "oh wow, I see what the issue is now" just grows each time you pull stunts like this.

Bigger tires is one of the best ways to make a bland car more fun... The other being stiffer suspension and roll bars, making the car handle much better.

Stiffer suspension is a yes and no for improvement. It can make a car feel more responsive but it is also a great way to reduce contact patches for tires in the real world, through off chassis balance, and exacerbate aspects of the geometry.

Of course, it comes down to subjective handling versus the more objective idea of grip. I've driven more than a few cars with some springs and shocks swapped in, stiffening it notably, that drove worse and seemed slower around cones.

That's the beauty of things like NA Miatas and the toyabaru's; you don't have to be going license-losing fast to have fun.

This, so very much this. Now that I'm out of my autocross phase, looking forward to replace my summer tires with something just a touch less grippy. Or going a bit stance and running some thinner tires with a touch of stretch.

On a side note, I feel the thread title should be changed to "Things immature car enthusiasts say about ignorant car enthusiasts" seeing how it consists almost entirely of teens bitching about how ignorant their friends are on some esoteric factoid.
 
You realize by just NOT POSTING instead of playing mini-mod, your end goal is generally achieved. I don't understand why younger members feel the need to post things along this line, as it doesn't contribute to the thread nor has any impact on whatever it is they are trying to stop.

The fact he claimed to have a French accent when he is Quebecois is comparable to me claiming an English accent because I speak English, despite having a very American Pacific Northwest accent.

Dude.

I'm not trying to be a "mini-mod", I'm saying that because the thread doesn't need another blown-out-of-proportion arguement. It would just get out of hand really fast. And in a way, it would just end up being immature.

Bigger tires is one of the best ways to make a bland car more fun... The other being stiffer suspension and roll bars, making the car handle much better.

In some aspects, that isn't the case. Bigger tires will increase weight, and can hinder the performance of a car. They also perform worse in winter climates...
 
I hate to have to say Top Gear has the right idea, but yeah, I rarely hear that putting on larger/wider tires makes a car more fun. Quite the opposite really: most modern cars are borderline over-tired anyways. That's the beauty of things like NA Miatas and the toyabaru's; you don't have to be going license-losing fast to have fun.
You're forgetting the 3-pot Caterham. Would that work with wide tyres and hard springs?

Hell to the no.
 
Dude.

I'm not trying to be a "mini-mod", I'm saying that because the thread doesn't need another blown-out-of-proportion arguement. It would just get out of hand really fast. And in a way, it would just end up being immature.

Obvious troll is obvious. Leave him alone he'll eventually find another thread to derail.

In some aspects, that isn't the case. Bigger tires will increase weight, and can hinder the performance of a car. They also perform worse in winter climates...

Getting narrower tires to save weight is like removing your turbo to save 10kg :lol:

Now if you're talking about wheel diameter you would be correct...
 
Getting narrower tires to save weight is like removing your turbo to save 10kg :lol:

Now if you're talking about wheel diameter you would be correct...

Reduced weight in the wheels improved ride and reduces weight.
 
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