Gen 5 Dodge Viper

[Beeblebrox237]

Well from my point of view, the issue with money was you're either willing to spend it or not. I decided I was so I got a job that would let me make that much money, and now it's a matter of waiting until I'm in a position to buy. As a consequence, the people around me make as much money or more than I do, so buying expensive cars isn't out of the question and at least one person I work with does own an American supercar (C6 Z06, admittedly a little bit cheaper). It doesn't take away from your point, I'm just in a small group where the overall picture may not apply.

Well I'd go further than that, I think we even both understand the other's angle. I think what we disagreed most about really was the definition of a driver's car. I don't see how the Aventador was shoved into last place in its comparison, but I don't doubt what the MT drivers thought about it.

You're absolutely right. We're not very good at arguing with each other, are we?

Let's not underestimate the effect looks has on car sales here. I think the Viper has a pretty strong appeal to certain people. The Corvette has gone pretty European, the Viper hasn't.

As a European, the C7 looks incredibly American to me. I see no European-ness in it. If anything, I'd say the Viper looks a bit more European.

 

[psntomaz]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/viper-time-attack-takes-on-xkr-s-gt-2014-04-02

 

[McLaren]

You're absolutely right. We're not very good at arguing with each other, are we?

As a European, the C7 looks incredibly American to me. I see no European-ness in it. If anything, I'd say the Viper looks a bit more European.

LOL, c'mon man. This is exactly what I was talking about in the Funny Pic thread.

Except its coming from some Pennsylvania kid who's spent the last 18, 19 years of his life in the US.....

 

[Beeblebrox237]

LOL, c'mon man. This is exactly what I was talking about in the Funny Pic thread.

Check my passport, accent, or country of residence.

 

[McLaren]

Check my passport, accent, or country of residence.

Nothing more than documents approving your entrance & right to live in the country. You're about as European as the illegals here are Texans.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Nothing more than documents approving your entrance & right to live in the country. You're about as European as the illegals here are Texans.

Let me get this straight. I can't decide who I am, but you can? I'm sorry, I don't understand.

 

[McLaren]

Let me get this straight. I can't decide who I am, but you can? I'm sorry, I don't understand.

You don't have to be any nationality to come to the opinion that the Corvette has "no European-ness" in it. But you decided to throw in, "As a European" as if that gives you more of a reason to come to the conclusion when you've been an American for 20 years & an European for 1 or 2. It comes right back to what we talked about; ever since your move to the UK, you've done everything to distance yourself from the US to a point where you don't even act like you ever lived there. I don't care what nationality you are, but don't act like you've been one long enough to decide what's what regarding it.

Would be the same as an American living in Italy for a year dictating what real Italian food is compared to the world.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Don't act as though you can tell me what I can and cannot do with regard to myself. We're done here.

 

[McLaren]

Don't act as though you can tell me what I can and cannot do with regard to myself.

I'm not, but if you want perpetuate your ignorance once again, by all means. I stand by post.

You're about as European as the illegals here are Texans.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

I'm not

You are.

but if you want perpetuate your ignorance once again, by all means. I stand by post.

If you have a problem with me, we can converse privately rather than clogging up the Viper thread. Though you seem a lot more brazen and confident out here with an audience.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

You're absolutely right. We're not very good at arguing with each other, are we?

As a European, the C7 looks incredibly American to me. I see no European-ness in it. If anything, I'd say the Viper looks a bit more European.

Don't see how at all, and rather than get into an argument with McLaren you could ignore him. I thought there was some viper news being discussed here not a page full or your feuding transgressions.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Don't see how at all, and rather than get into an argument with McLaren you could ignore him. I thought there was some viper news being discussed here not a page full or your feuding transgressions.

Yeah, I'm sorry about that, I should have stopped it much sooner.

 

[McLaren]

Though you seem a lot more brazen and confident out here with an audience.

And you're less apologetic for your posts & not taking shots at Slash and W&N.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah, I'm sorry about that, I should have stopped it much sooner.

Yeah it's whatever now, it's just you two have been doing this quite often and there are people I rather see get warned or spend days away from GTP than you two.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

i know old thread but this looks killer favorite new color with this car

More Pictures Here http://s49.photobucket.com/user/GT2860RS/media/Viper TA/DSC_5058_zps7141c857.jpg.html

 

[Azure Flare]

GTS Blue, 2 white stripes, and silver wheels. I'd have that.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Um, I'm sorry for waking up this thread, but...

 

[sparkytooth]

Um, I'm sorry for waking up this thread, but...

No no, continue. You have a more than valid reason.

 

[Brutaka]

Maybe we should change the thread title

 

[RACECAR]

Maybe we should change the thread title

Seems appropriate to me.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

 

[Azure Flare]

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

I thought that little badge under your username allows you to that yourself.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I thought that little badge under your username allows you to that yourself.

Don't poke the giant dude, that little badge gives him other powers too that you don't want to witness

 

[Azure Flare]

I ain't scurred!

 

[GT Pro]

Could it hurt them to remove some of the exotic features that go over and above what the Corvette offers such as the carbon-fibre hood, roof and tailgate, magnesium cowl etc and sell this entry-level version at tens of thousands less?

 

[Tornado]

The cost of tooling up alternative parts materials for an already small production car would likely be enough to make the price difference small enough that people wouldn't buy the lesser one.

 

[YSSMAN]

Perhaps with a more straightforward marketing direction under Dodge, they'll have some more success with the new Viper. But, when it isn't a clear performance gain over a Z51-equipped Stingray, they've got to do more to differentiate their product not only against the major domestic competition, but also, against the onslaught of "affordable" European alternatives now that the F-Type R Coupe and several others are on the shelf.

I'd also consider not going to Le Mans a bad choice this year, but, what are you going to do. "Race on Sunday, Sell on Monday" doesn't work the same way it used to.

 

[Tornado]

Well, I dunno about that. It helps when there is a clear link between the thing on the track and the thing down at Honest John's Dodge Emporium as opposed to, say, a NASCAR Toyota Camry. Pulling out of Le Mans was probably the better idea if they couldn't make a successful run with what they had.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Almost got Ban from gtplanet.. Stupid me is the viper now call dodge viper again??

 

[RACECAR]

Perhaps with a more straightforward marketing direction under Dodge, they'll have some more success with the new Viper. But, when it isn't a clear performance gain over a Z51-equipped Stingray, they've got to do more to differentiate their product not only against the major domestic competition, but also, against the onslaught of "affordable" European alternatives now that the F-Type R Coupe and several others are on the shelf.

I'd also consider not going to Le Mans a bad choice this year, but, what are you going to do. "Race on Sunday, Sell on Monday" doesn't work the same way it used to.

According to Beth Peretta:

"Adding two endurance races at Daytona and Watkins Glen to the schedule [on the creation of the United SportsCar Championship] meant extra expense, which meant we had to step back and get all our ducks in a row,"