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Give us better sounds - PLEASE !!
- Thread starter steamcat
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that red bull sounds fake... when gear changes there's only a pitch shift, no gear shifting sounds, no rumbles, nothing...
It's still a vacuum cleaner... but "saturated" at high revs
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The sound in GT6 is almost exactly as is in GT5, except for the tires, they have had their sound changed and since the simulation of the tire has SIGNIFICANTLY been improved you hear the tires working and squealing and skipping a lot. But otherwise it's the same, I'd say slightly worst in multiplayer, me and my friend on Barthurst, which lags a lot in splitscreen btw, couldn't hear the engine of our Jaguar XKR-S at all in bumper cam, it was only wind and that awful noise whine they've got going in their engine simulation.
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- magicayrton
It sounds amazing.. and that car does not exist in real life, so how do you know what it should sound like eh?
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high-revving is quite nice, but when he shifts gears at 2:00 in the video is still fake sounding and gear shifting is only changing the "note" of the sound.
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But that's what the real engines do:
I'm not sure if people are expecting to hear Fast & Furious / NFS style blams as gears are engaged, or if they're just mistaking one particular expression of fueling and ignition control for "gear change sounds".
That kind of subtle variation is not to be tackled with specific sounds, you have to model it all properly so it's flexible and consistent for all possible expressions (e.g. part throttle with carbs, rev limiter, cam lope, launch control, pit limiter etc.)
I'm intrigued to know in what way the author of that X2010 video "hacked" the game though.
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I checked out the vid on Youtube and it does sound mighty nice (hate the car its self but that's another subject). The Red Bull sounded much meatier then it ever had.
I wish this roller coaster would stop though.. I'm stoked for GT6, I'm slightly disappointed, I'm stoked, I'm disappointed. Stop toying with my expectations GT!!
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- magicayrton
I agree 100% we are slowly getting there my friend! Mind how you drive your Z in the meantime! Mine has been put to bed for the winter! 👍
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- magicayrton
At least they got one right! That's if it doesn't mysteriously get changed after the first update!
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- MikeB0ssMan
I know about straight cut gears in race trans causing excessive gear meshing(I like it), posted many times on this subject. I was not necessarily disagreeing with you, more pointing out the fact that was not the cars exhaust note. Yes the sound balance is messed up for sure, I'll wait until its on my TV and I adjust it for my liking
I can confirm that the Viper in that video has a racing exhaust equipped, you can easily recognize the sample and the race tranny being louder than exhaust in 3rd person view is seriously unbalanced (worse than GT5).
- 8,722
Now that's interesting. The one I saw was of much lower audio quality, I'm assuming that's a direct capture.
It actually sounds pretty awful to me, like a saw blade or something - overly distorted. No tyre or wind noise? I guess the exhaust must just be too loud (which may be the source of the distortion, it is similarly "mushy" like the tyre noises were in roof view in GT5). The audio control isn't as finessed as it should be, either, I see where those complaints are coming from now. Still, it seems to be the correct engine configuration, which is a start.
There also appears to be a different sound for on and off throttle which has never happened before (unless the volume drop is just pulling it out of distortion). Most interesting.
Again, I need to know the nature of this "hack". To digging...
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- magicayrton
I have Asus xense Headphones with a quality sound card and trust me this sounds pretty damn good..(and that's through youtube) as you say, there is a different sound for off throttle.. and this car is a hyper car with straight pipes, so it's going to sound distorted.. ever been to an F1 race? Your ears bleed.
Oh god. These engine sounds are terrible. And the AI looks crap. The graphics and physics look incredible but I'm not sure I want to play this game if I have no 'connection' to the high powered beast I'm meant to be driving. I swear, this Kazouri chap must be deaf...
/hovers over 'cancel order' button.
/hovers over 'cancel order' button.
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I've never been to a race, but I've stood right next to one maneuvring and within 15 feet of them at full chat, I know they're loud. But this is turbocharged and has only one "straight pipe" going by the sound (I know the actual car in the game has twin exhausts, but that's not how it sounds), so it shouldn't be quite as loud (indeed, at least 600 hp is taken out of the exhaust, so).
Besides, it's not even the right kind of distortion: an ear is not a microphone, nor a digital level limiter for that matter.
I'm using monitoring headphones, though.
What I want to know is why it sounds the way it does when no other car does, unless you factor in their in-engine hard-limiting - clipping; i.e. somebody set the volume ridiculously high without checking the mixer wouldn't molest it (or did it deliberately...).
It's far too dirty-sounding anyway to be an F1 style engine, those things adjust fueling and ignition timing / energy faster than the spark discharge through the plugs! It sounds more like it's got mechanical fuel injection, when really it's probably just another one of those rough, part-throttle exhaust recordings we've come to know and loathe.
But if people like it, then fine. I don't think it's as good as we could / should get, that's all.
So it turns out the car was obtained by patching the savegame for credits (not very observant, am I?). Not really a hack, but whatever...
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- oOJ-KiLLA240o
Wow, you took it upon yourself to reply to a comment I made over a year ago? I'm not even gunna mention anything about the video..
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- disneyland5
This is unacceptable. PD really needs to focus a lot more on the sound for GT7 and work on cars that actually matter.
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- Chiyo_Cute
Is it just me or the right speaker looks smaller? or is this some kind of optical illusion?!!
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you are right... I use studio monitors and gt5 sounded like crap......to hear all those wrongly used samples in full richness and glory
it's amazing that polyphony added so many options for sound (enhanced dynamic range for professional audio setups and so on...) and then fail at engine sounds.
The sound of wheels on curbs in gt5 was not bad, adding that with the force feedback of the wheel was really great...
I'm really looking forward for the new tyre sounds: looks like the constant lifeless "screech" that was present at every turn is now OVER.
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this the hashtag (if you have twitter) to ask something to Kaz!
#GT6isComing
It was written on playstation official twitter
(https://twitter.com/PlayStationEU)
Ask him about sounds! I already twitted
#GT6isComing
It was written on playstation official twitter
(https://twitter.com/PlayStationEU)
Ask him about sounds! I already twitted
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