Got £38,000?...Buy an Alfa 4C

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Well, the chassi comes straight out from a KTM X-Bow, which is a track toy car rival to the Ariel Atom, it can't be bad.
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From what I've read in a few of the UK car magazines the chassis isn't from an X-Bow, but the tub will be made by the same company using the same manufacturing processes.

I quite like it, but not in matt paint!
 
Indeed, I stand corrected.

According to the Evo website, the chassi was developed by Dallara, which is strongly related to motorsporting ( IndyCar single seaters are developed by them ).

The chassi will be built using the same project adopted for the X-Bow, however there will be tweaks and adjustments to the construction.

I was just wondering how much carbon fibre will actually be used in the production car, with the total cost fixed in 38 grand, I can't help but suspect that all CF in the concept car will be replaced with aluminium. Let's wait for the weight figures of the production version, though it might have some impact on the final numbers.

I echo your feelings about the matte paint, looks dreadful in every car to me.
 
Am I the only one that doesn't really like the look of it? I know it's an Alfa Romeo so by the logic of Top Gear it must be pretty... but I think this a bit like the Ferrari California where the curves and lines are just in the wrong place.
 
Zenith013
Am I the only one that doesn't really like the look of it? I know it's an Alfa Romeo so by the logic of Top Gear it must be pretty... but I think this a bit like the Ferrari California where the curves and lines are just in the wrong place.
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Nope, I love Alfa's but this one just doesn't look right. It's mainly the amount of sharp lines it has, it's very un-Alfa like.
 
First official pictures of the production car.

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From Evo.
Alfa Romeo has revealed its production 4C sports car. The mid-engined, rear-drive coupe has been teased since its first unveil as a concept at the 2011 Geneva motor show. Two years later the showroom-spec car arrives, with few major visual changes.

Thanks in part to a carbonfibre chassis, the 4C is set to weigh less than 1000kg – making it lighter than a Fiat 500 Abarth. Alfa is claiming a 4kg/hp weight to power ratio, which means up to 250bhp.

The 4C uses a 1.7-litre turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine (the 4 in 4C representing the car’s cylinder count). In the Alfa Giulietta Cloverleaf, this engine produces 232bhp, though the 4C gets a 25kg-lighter version that’s cast aluminium rather than iron. It also gets direct injection and is linked to Alfa’s TCT twin-dry clutch transmission rather than a traditional manual gearbox. Steering-wheel paddle-shifters will still allow control of its six ratios, though.

Alfa’s DNA drive select switch makes an appearance, with a Race mode joining the Dynamic, Normal and All-weather seen in Mitos and Giuliettas. Measuring 4000mm long, 2000mm wide and 1180mm high, the 4C is shorter, wider and more squat than a Lotus Evora, Porsche Cayman or Toyota GT86.

The Alfa Romeo 4C launches in 2013, attempting to rejuvenate the brand globally as well as introduce it back to America. Convertible and more hardcore, track biased versions are rumoured to follow in 2014. The Alfa 4C is expected to cost less than £50,000, sitting it directly in Cayman territory.

More details and pictures will be revealed when the production 4C makes its public debut at the 2013 Geneva motor show in March.
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The headlamps ruin an otherwise awesome looking car. I mean they ABSOLUTELY ruin the thing, ot looks soooooooooooooo ugly because of them.
 
Headlamps were simplified, the front lip was trimmed a bit and the mirrors have grown quite a lot from the concept car. Still looks awesome, though.

The million lira question is: Will it be TCT only or will it get a six-speed row-your-own?

Autoblog interior shots revealed only a button labelled with "A/M", M would relegate the shifting to the wheel mounted paddles.
 
Even though it looks a lot like the concept, there seem to be some key aspects lost in translation, most notably the headlights (why?) but some other details or more accurate the proportions look a bit 'off' compared to the concept as well.

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One word: Shagadelic. :drool:

Although I think the headlights don't look as good as the concept, I still love the look of them. I'd love to buy one, but it'll probably take me ten or so years to afford it. :(
 
Sexy, cool, desirable - all the standards of the pent supercars in one small package and accessable. I can just imagine it in silver and I'm filling in the order form!:drool:
 
Encyclopedia
It's alright. Am I right in thinking it's based on an Elise?
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No, this is all of Fiat's own work, here. It's supposed to be the first of several new sporty vehicles coming out of the brand, including a Spider successor that will share it's platform with the Mazda MX-5.


By all means, this is a good way to re-introduce the brand to the United States. Hell, assuming they sticker it at less than $40k here, it'll be a halfway decent deal when compared to the Porsche Cayman or the BMW Z4 sDrive28i.
 
YSSMAN
Hell, assuming they sticker it at less than $40k here, it'll be a halfway decent deal when compared to the Porsche Cayman or the BMW Z4 sDrive28i.
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And how high is the probability of that actually happening? :sly:
C&D thinks it will start around $55k. I can see them undercutting Cayman/Boxster a bit, but not by much.
 
Headlights have now been completely ruined.

If it drives well and they fix the headlights in a future mid-cycle facelift, I would consider buying one, because the rest of the car is still sexy.
 
Pfft, all you philistines with your manual gearboxes :sly:

Though you do have a point. I'd at least like to try one with a manual to see whether it'd be worth having over a dual-clutch.

I've never been keen on the looks of it, even with the concept (it's no prettier in the metal than it is in pictures) though I've yet to see a concept that wasn't in a weird matte finish (though it's better in that silver than it was in the yellowy-red) - maybe it actually looks better in the metal in a metallic shade. I wouldn't worry overly about the headlights - production car or not, press teaser images are never the most accurate representation of the car's looks - just a quick glance of the pics is enough to tell you it's been heavily daubed with the photoshop brush. The headlights have barely any reflections on them for a start!

It's the spec sheet that interests me. For a price not entirely different from a Porsche Boxster or Cayman, it should destroy it performance-wise with a sub-1000kg weight.

That, and a mid-engined sports car with the Alfa badge wins on cool points for me, ugly or not. I'm a big Porsche fan, but the Alfa implies you've thought a bit harder about your sports car choice rather than defaulting to the usual. And I quite like that.
 
That rear quarter shot looks so awkward with that massive surface there.. Evora is more elegant.

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YSSMAN
No, this is all of Fiat's own work, here. It's supposed to be the first of several new sporty vehicles coming out of the brand, including a Spider successor that will share it's platform with the Mazda MX-5.


By all means, this is a good way to re-introduce the brand to the United States. Hell, assuming they sticker it at less than $40k here, it'll be a halfway decent deal when compared to the Porsche Cayman or the BMW Z4 sDrive28i.
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I see. It looks very Elise-y from some angles though.
 
This car is so beautiful... It looks like the niece of a 458 Italia!

Well I`ll probably never be able to afford this one, but I hope the upcoming Alfa Spider looks close to this!

I love Alfas... Too sad that they currently only sell 2 models in germany...
 

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