Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

[daus26]

Why years apart? Why not at the same time? Both parties wouldn't have to wait with a simultaneous release.

I think it's just the fact that a lot of us just want GT6 soon. Simultaneous release for both versions probably won't be for awhile if that's the case.

 

[Johnnypenso]

^This.

If Sony does this, it's a very smart move from them IMO. They can make more money from both markets and please everyone.

Even if GT6 pushes the extremes of the PS3 with an advanced physics engine, new features and new cars, the PS4 version can be the one showing how the GT series looks with better physics, graphics, better frame rate and more advanced features from the PS4's capabilities.

Hate to burst your bubble but Kaz has already said, "GT5 represents a whole new operating system," [Kaz] noted, while "GT6 is just new apps that run on the GT5 system"

GT5 was the big overhaul. GT6 is just an extension of the work already done. I expect most, if not all of the changes in GT6 to be content, not physics.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...urismo_5s_Development_Cost_Hit_60_Million.php

 

[TheDabbinDave]

What if GT6 has the same fate as GT5. Lots of loophole in volume, car noise go up and down, graphics are the same, crap gameplay.

PS3 are known to freeze often, I would rather trade in this piece of junk for a extra bonus trade in credit than have this crap PS3.

You'll be selling all of your PS3 games along with it.

The thought of playing Drive Club for 4 years waiting for GT6/7 is terrifying!!! Motorstorm is what was supposed to carry us while we waited for GT5. Then there was that $40 demo. Nightmares...

 

[priesty_lfc]

With all the talk of xplay has anything been said about ps3-ps4?

Personally I think it going to be out on 1 both, 2 ps4 only and lastly ps3 only.

It just makes sense for Sony as quite a lot of the GT crowd spend 000's of £/$/€ on accessories for GT5 (wheel/rig etc) if GT6 came out early on ps4 the same people (imo) would quite happily go out and by a ps4 to play it.

Sony would make more money selling limited ps4's and gt6 than selling 5 times more gt6 on ps3 only.....

Everybody knows gt5 has issues so is there really enough power left in the ps3 to resolve them and release a new game? I'm not so sure.

Could they even release gt6 on ps4 with gt6 prologue on ps3?

In theory ps4 gets the full game with no issues, ps3 gets a cut down taster (due to the limitations of the hardware) of the new game showing all the improvements and hopefully that could make people upgrade to a ps4 for the full game?

 

[jabofu]

Bingo!

The PS3 surpassed the Xbox 360 in total sales in January. At that time, the total reached 77 million PS3s.

Total PS4s sold: 0

Total PS3s sold: 77,000,000

I am amazed by the business experts around here.

How will they sell the ps4 to the customers? If they end up like Nintendo with their Wii U, then the era of playstation will end soon. The only way they can sell their consoles is with a strong first party line up of games.

Plus there is still no information about GT6 out there. Nothing. So, I would'nt expect a release soon. Probably not this year. And I am absolutely sure that they will not release a game for the predecessor of a console that is already out for a year. That did never happen to GT in the entire series.

With the argument of install base, you can also say that they should make GT6 for the PS2, because they sold well over 150 million units of it. 👍

Hate to burst your bubble but Kaz has already said, "GT5 represents a whole new operating system," [Kaz] noted, while "GT6 is just new apps that run on the GT5 system"

GT5 was the big overhaul. GT6 is just an extension of the work already done. I expect most, if not all of the changes in GT6 to be content, not physics.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...urismo_5s_Development_Cost_Hit_60_Million.php

If this will come true, then I will lose all faith in PD and Sony...

And this is an article from November 5, 2009! Fact is, we know nothing about GT6.

 

[Spagetti69]

Why don't they just tell us and end the speculation? Fair enough Kaz hadn't a clue about the release date but c'mon he knows what platform surely.

If it is on 2 platforms and not up to par the defenders will say well they were working on 2 platforms etc. The PS3 version gimped the PS4 etc.

This is getting tired.

 

[thelvynau]

I am amazed by the business experts around here.

How will they sell the ps4 to the customers? If they end up like Nintendo with their Wii U, then the era of playstation will end soon. The only way they can sell their consoles is with a strong first party line up of games.

Plus there is still no information about GT6 out there. Nothing. So, I would'nt expect a release soon. Probably not this year. And I am absolutely sure that they will not release a game for the predecessor of a console that is already out for a year. That did never happen to GT in the entire series.

With the argument of install base, you can also say that they should make GT6 for the PS2, because they sold well over 150 million units of it. 👍

If this will come true, then I will lose all faith in PD and Sony...

And this is an article from November 5, 2009! Fact is, we know nothing about GT6.

Interesting theory but which GT game has been a release title for a console? I cant think of any.

GT is a top provider for revenue for Sony but its not the only one.

On the other hand GT6 as a release title would sell consoles.

Unfortunately at this stage its hard to guess.

 

[VspecZR1GT2RS89]

Hate to burst your bubble but Kaz has already said, "GT5 represents a whole new operating system," [Kaz] noted, while "GT6 is just new apps that run on the GT5 system"

GT5 was the big overhaul. GT6 is just an extension of the work already done. I expect most, if not all of the changes in GT6 to be content, not physics.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/25966/Yamauchi_Gran_Turismo_5s_Development_Cost_Hit_60_Million.php

I didn't see that article before though. And true, GT6 will be what everyone wants in GT6: more cars, tracks and tuning options, especially the goodies that are on the GT5 disk that took tuning on higher levels.

 

[machschnel]

I am amazed by the business experts around here.
How will they sell the ps4 to the customers?

Yeah, I remember when the PS3 came out and it wasn't sold out at every store I went to looking for one, probably because Gran Turismo was a few years away.....

 

[RACECAR]

Why don't they just tell us and end the speculation? Fair enough Kaz hadn't a clue about the release date but c'mon he knows what platform surely.

If it is on 2 platforms and not up to par the defenders will say well they were working on 2 platforms etc. The PS3 version gimped the PS4 etc.

This is getting tired.

Will be a little harder to argue that considering they've hired more people.

 

[Spagetti69]

Will be a little harder to argue that considering they've hired more people.

That's good news.
The only reason for silence would be a PS4 release. A PS3 release is not worthy of silence IMHO.

 

[jabofu]

Interesting theory but which GT game has been a release title for a console? I cant think of any.

GT is a top provider for revenue for Sony but its not the only one.

On the other hand GT6 as a release title would sell consoles.

Unfortunately at this stage its hard to guess.

I dont think that it will be a release title. But who knows.

But if they would release GT6 for the ps3, which GT-fan would buy a PS4 then?? Probably a very small number of people.

I think many people didnt purchased a ps3 right away and kept their PS2 with GT4, because GT5 just didnt came out.

Since GTA, Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy are no exclusives for Sony, there are not many strong exclusives under Sony's brand anymore.

I think that many racers will look at the next xbox, when a new GT doesnt come out within 1-2 years by now.

 

[MeanElf]

...Since GTA, Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy are no exclusives for Sony, there are not many strong exclusives under Sony's brand anymore...

That is a matter of opinion and depends on what kind of games you like. I see plenty of strong titles coming with the PS4's launch - but you'd have to be into them, so it's really down to personal preference.

For myself, I never really bothered with GTA or MGS.

 

[Scaff]

That's good news.
The only reason for silence would be a PS4 release. A PS3 release is not worthy of silence IMHO.

To be fair when has PD ever been great at communication, silence is simply par for the course to a large degree. That we have been used to since GT2 (as oddly for the first title they didn't shut up pre-release).

I dont think that it will be a release title. But who knows.

But if they would release GT6 for the ps3, which GT-fan would buy a PS4 then?? Probably a very small number of people.

I think many people didnt purchased a ps3 right away and kept their PS2 with GT4, because GT5 just didnt came out.

Since GTA, Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy are no exclusives for Sony, there are not many strong exclusives under Sony's brand anymore.

I think that many racers will look at the next xbox, when a new GT doesnt come out within 1-2 years by now.

I really can't see GT6 being a PS4 launch title, they have never hit a console launch with a title and the PS4 would not have the numbers at launch to support a GT title.

Personally I think that unless they screw up the PS4 launch in a big way that Sony will shift every one they can make and as such they don't need to rely on GT fans to buy in at that stage. Honestly to me it makes much more sense to shift every launch machine they can without GT (which should still be all they can make) and then use a new GT title 18 months or so down the line to keep those consoles moving.

 

[jabofu]

That is a matter of opinion and depends on what kind of games you like. I see plenty of strong titles coming with the PS4's launch - but you'd have to be into them, so it's really down to personal preference.

For myself, I never really bothered with GTA or MGS.

That is right. But I wanted to show that you dont have to only rely on Sony to be able to play these great games. The xbox became more and more attractive in the past.

I think the PS4 will still be exciting. GT is not everything.

 

[sinbad]

It is hard to figure why out why drive club is on the sony roster if for the last two and a half years gt6 has been intended to be an early ps4 release.

 

[thelvynau]

To be fair when has PD ever been great at communication, silence is simply par for the course to a large degree. That we have been used to since GT2 (as oddly for the first title they didn't shut up pre-release).

I really can't see GT6 being a PS4 launch title, they have never hit a console launch with a title and the PS4 would not have the numbers at launch to support a GT title.

Personally I think that unless they screw up the PS4 launch in a big way that Sony will shift every one they can make and as such they don't need to rely on GT fans to buy in at that stage. Honestly to me it makes much more sense to shift every launch machine they can without GT (which should still be all they can make) and then use a new GT title 18 months or so down the line to keep those consoles moving.

Then there is the theory of hitting the ps3 install base to get that last bit of revenue from the ps3 before its replaced by the PS4.

This is the time where you cant judge what will happen and it most certainly an exciting time.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

GT6 on PS3 would keep us playing for 2 years as long as its strongly supported. That would be just in time for the first major price drop, redesign, and bundle of a killer looking GT Edition. Like the Blue PS3 GT5 Bundle that only Japan got. What a crock that was!!!

 

[nealcropper]

Can I just ask. How many differences do you expect between GT5 and GT6 if it is a PS3 release? I'm thinking that the differences would be negligible.

I hope it's a PS4 release, and I hope it releases about 12 months after the initial launch of the PS4.

 

[MeanElf]

It is hard to figure why out why drive club is on the sony roster if for the last two and a half years gt6 has been intended to be an early ps4 release.

That's just speculation though. No one knows if it's a PS4 or PS3 title.

Evolution Studios are a big dev and I see no problem with Drive Club based on what we have seen so far. With Wipeout gone, Sony do need a racing title for the launch and as has been said so many times on this and other threads, GT never has been a launch title.

Okay, there might always be a first time but that's not the way it's looking.

Can I just ask. How many differences do you expect between GT5 and GT6 if it is a PS3 release? I'm thinking that the differences would be negligible...

My gut says more tracks and race content, less peripheral stuff.

 

[Odyofil]

GT6 is absolutely coming to PS3, cause they showed Drive Club for those who want to race on new ps4 console, sony gaining players respect by making 2 games for 2 consoles. win/win.

 

[thelvynau]

GT6 is absolutely coming to PS3, cause they showed Drive Club for those who want to race on new ps4 console, sony gaining players respect by making 2 games for 2 consoles. win/win.

Unfortunately its all guess work I wish pd would say something besides Kaz being very cryptic with his answers.

 

[Zlork]

>> http://www.computerandvideogames.com/401434/retailer-lists-gran-turismo-6-for-ps3/

Courage !

 

[thelvynau]

>> http://www.computerandvideogames.com/401434/retailer-lists-gran-turismo-6-for-ps3/

Courage !

Hmmm nothing concrete as usual.

 

[nealcropper]

My gut says more tracks and race content, less peripheral stuff.

Ok, that's stuff that could be put into GT5. In order for them to warrant making a GT6, if it is for PS3, it's going to have to be a lot, and I mean a lot, better than GT5, otherwise what's the point?

Now, keeping that in mind. GT5 was in development for a long time, long enough, I'd say, to make this THE racing sim of its generation. I think you will agree with me, it's far from that. There are a lot of issues with it, some of which "other" games don't have, i.e a livery editor.

Now why do you think PD didn't include that option with GT5? Is it because they couldn't be bothered? I think not, is it because it would have took time that they simply didn't have? Again, most definitely not.

Could it be because of the console? Hmmmmm maybe. I don't know anything about programming or hardware for that matter, but it's the only thing that makes any sense.

It's not just a livery editor, there are other faults also, foremost of which the AI, the crappy online, and others.

Maybe the PS3 isn't what it needs to be in order for PD to do what they want to do. I, for one, hope this is the case, because if it isn't, then we are relying on a bunch of lazy programmers to bring us out next iteration of GT, and if that is the case, then I will be very disappointed with GT6.

 

[Zlork]

Hmmm nothing concrete as usual.

The most important thing to remember is :

Possible reveal planned in the coming weeks

CVG understands that Sony is weeks away from revealing its next Gran Turismo title.

 

[thelvynau]

We hope.

 

[Tenacious D]

Imagine Sony doing (a big production for PS4)...which is 99% probable, and then someone from PD comes to scenery and says "We have a new GT game coming...for PS3...". At least for ME that will be like..."hum yes, I´m hyped now to get the new console which is going to be amazing, tons of games, better graphics and overall capabilities, and you come here to talk me about a PS3 game which is not going to be a huge step forward from the previous one?"...

Unless they want to sell less copies of it, as it is happening with God of War Ascension or Gears of War Judgement on xBox, they should not do this.

Can I just ask. How many differences do you expect between GT5 and GT6 if it is a PS3 release? I'm thinking that the differences would be negligible.

I hope it's a PS4 release, and I hope it releases about 12 months after the initial launch of the PS4.

The more I think of GT6 on PS3, the more I think like Foxiol and nealcropper. Let me do another story thingie.

Moonraker was kind of a sad joke in the James Bond series, and fans were left scratching their heads over it because of the goofy story elements the production team and writers used. They even wondered if the sequel would be doomed.

Now, suppose Hollywood had been working on a massive new entertainment platform for movies, IMAX REAL 3D or something, a high definition media and display technology which produced graphics with such realism and holographic depth that it made watching traditional movies seem like old black n white tube TVs.

Through this time, Broccoli and Saltzman, the team responsible for producing the Bond franchise, promised that the next flick would blow fans away with action and visuals which would make them forget Moonraker ever happened. Hollywood movies and other entertainment media begin moving en masse to the new platform. And then when news about the new Bond movie began to come out, news about it was a little confusing, until finally at its grand unveiling, it was announced to be produced for...

The old 35mm film format.

Fans had a cow, especially when it was common knowledge that despite the new AV architecture, IMAX REAL 3D was very easy to work with and didn't require expensive new studio production technology, just new cameras.

And this is what I see with a GT6 on PS3. I'm still in love with GT5 and am going to be doing some racing before I scurry off to my idiot gubmint job. I'd buy a GT6 for PS3 in a heartbeat and enjoy it. It would be better. But it would be like GT5.5. No Movie Maker because of ram limitations. No incredible Course Maker improvement, most likely. No more than 16 cars on track again, which means no big fields and no serious multiclass racing. No night racing with each car casting its own light cones across the landscape. Perhaps no big damage implementation, which requires a certain amount of console resources to render properly. Anything improved in GT6 would require some Cell resources scavenged from somewhere else, such as to improve graphics, particle effects and lighting to what it should be.

I can just imagine all the other racers on PS4 and the NexBox with far more cars on track, multiclass racing, damage that leaves debris on track, weather and environment details which directly affect the race and change in real time, direct replay editing and uploads to our YouTube and other media, and things I can't imagine in my sleep deprived state right now which more advanced technology will make possible. While we can enjoy... basically GT5 Spec III or whatever.

I very much want GT6 to go to that next level. And that level is only possible on PS4.

And forget about Drive Club having no competition. Other racers will be there too. I can imagine all the PC sim guys wanting a piece of this console action, because releasing on PS4 and N-Box could double your market, or more. And the usual crowd of Codemasters and whatnot will be there too. And all releasing games in spite of the shadow of Gran Turismo looming over them all. Killzone and Metal Gear won't stop other shooters from being made, any more than GT will stop racing developers from marketing their wares on PS4. Besides, Drive Club is aimed at a slightly different market, just as Dirt is. Yes, GT6 will overshadow it, and all PS4 racers. But that shadow will exist whether GT6 is for sale or not, and millions of fans will hold out for the next GT game.

Something I think makes more sense would be some sort of GT release for PS3, and the real Gran Turismo 6 for PS4. The PS3 version could be marketed as GT6 or GT5 Ultra or whatever, use your old save file from GT5 and give you the GT5 you were hoping for, minus power hungry goodies like the Movie Maker and HD Course Maker. Meanwhile, the rest of us can enjoy the seriously hopped up GT6 on PS4 with all the fixins. Whenever it's released.

If GT6 is out for PS3 solely, I think this is going to be a bad idea, make every other racer on PS4 and N-Box look infinitely better, and aggravate a huge GT fanbase. I'll buy it and enjoy it, but it won't really be GT6.

 

[Scaff]

The more I think of GT6 on PS3, the more I think like Foxiol and nealcropper. Let me do another story thingie.

Moonraker was kind of a sad joke in the James Bond series, and fans were left scratching their heads over it because of the goofy story elements the production team and writers used. They even wondered if the sequel would be doomed.

Now, suppose Hollywood had been working on a massive new entertainment platform for movies, IMAX REAL 3D or something, a high definition media and display technology which produced graphics with such realism and holographic depth that it made watching traditional movies seem like old black n white tube TVs.

Through this time, Broccoli and Saltzman, the team responsible for producing the Bond franchise, promised that the next flick would blow fans away with action and visuals which would make them forget Moonraker ever happened. Hollywood movies and other entertainment media begin moving en masse to the new platform. And then when news about the new Bond movie began to come out, news about it was a little confusing, until finally at its grand unveiling, it was announced to be produced for...

The old 35mm film format.

Fans had a cow, especially when it was common knowledge that despite the new AV architecture, IMAX REAL 3D was very easy to work with and didn't require expensive new studio production technology, just new cameras.

Odd analogy is odd (and I have to say doesn't actually make a lot of sense).

And this is what I see with a GT6 on PS3. I'm still in love with GT5 and am going to be doing some racing before I scurry off to my idiot gubmint job. I'd buy a GT6 for PS3 in a heartbeat and enjoy it. It would be better. But it would be like GT5.5. No Movie Maker because of ram limitations. No incredible Course Maker improvement, most likely. No more than 16 cars on track again, which means no big fields and no serious multiclass racing. No night racing with each car casting its own light cones across the landscape. Perhaps no big damage implementation, which requires a certain amount of console resources to render properly. Anything improved in GT6 would require some Cell resources scavenged from somewhere else, such as to improve graphics, particle effects and lighting to what it should be.

I can just imagine all the other racers on PS4 and the NexBox with far more cars on track, multiclass racing, damage that leaves debris on track, weather and environment details which directly affect the race and change in real time, direct replay editing and uploads to our YouTube and other media, and things I can't imagine in my sleep deprived state right now which more advanced technology will make possible. While we can enjoy... basically GT5 Spec III or whatever.

I very much want GT6 to go to that next level. And that level is only possible on PS4.

Rather than counter with my own thought (which I've posted a few times, I will let another source have a go....

As we reported back at the weekend there, Sony’s Michael Denny said in an interview that Gran Turismo 6 would be heading to the PlayStation 3 rather than – as most expected – the PlayStation 4. The curious thing is that – with a few days of reflection to have a proper think – this really isn’t such a crazy idea as we might have first thought it was.

The concept of a “Gran Turismo 6″ is hardly out there, though.

Nearly a year ago we got our first confirmation that another Gran Turismo game was in production, with the team jetting about photographing new tracks like Bathurst. We’ve heard more since – GT Academy drivers mentioning the next game, for example. It’s coming, not least because it’s one of Sony’s biggest IPs, at least in Europe where it tends to sell like hotcakes.

But why PS3? It’s true that Gran Turismo 5 felt hamstrung by the hardware, cruelly delayed at the last moment and still seemingly rushed, but that was because it was trying to be a catch-all poster-child for everything the PS3 promised at launch. 1080p, 3D, 60FPS – none of which it seemed to manage when combined with any other – the frame rate staggered frequently and the game launched with considerable tearing, for example.

And then there was the issue of the severe difference between the Premium and the Standard cars. The former still look incredible and the latter lot look like PS2 leftovers given a slight buffing – in tandem, on a course, it was jarring, but in the garage you’d be mistaken for thinking you were looking at a PSP rather than a PS3. Ugly shadows, poor smoke effects and barren courses also felt like slightly uncomfortable last-gen hangovers.

But that was then. 2010, remember? In the two year period are we really to assume that Polyphony have been doing nothing but figuring out how best to approach a PS4 version of the series? It’s far more likely that they’ve been refining the tech, balancing out the visuals (seriously, 720p will do just fine) and expanding the number of vehicles that actually look like they belong on the PS3. After all, they’d port just fine to a PS4 game down the line, the fidelity of the modeling so high.

But the biggest issue is the current install base of the PS3. It’s massive. Everybody that might be interested in another Gran Turismo already owns the console that it’s apparently coming out on, and there’s no need to buy anything else. Whilst next-gen titles are all rather exciting, the take up for the PlayStation 4 won’t be nearly large enough to sustain two top tier racing games for some time – launching GT6 on current-gen makes economical sense.

That way, Evolution’s promising looking Driveclub isn’t competition, it’s a long-tail social title that doesn’t necessarily need big numbers at launch. It’s likely to come with some kind of subscription model that’ll mean players will be dipping in and out of it for a year or so – Gran Turismo 6 is a totally different style of experience and one that most PS3 gamers will be already familiar with.

It’s not like Polyphony need worry too much about the handling (it’s still sublime) or the breadth of content (the number of cars and tracks is probably enough if they manage to get a few more courses in there) – Gran Turismo 6 might end up being an incremental update that fixes the last game’s major issues and sends the PS3 out on a rather unexpected swansong. That’s reason enough to think that staying with current-gen is actually the smartest decision.

So whilst we’d all like a PlayStation 4 Gran Turismo down the line, perhaps now isn’t the best timeslot for it. Get another PS3 game out there, let Driveclub bring in the punters and then allow Polyphony to work their automotive magic buoyed by a huge pile content (that’s likely being built with future platforms in mind) that’s easily transferred over. Yeah?

Source - http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/02...easing-gran-turismo-6-on-ps3-rather-than-ps4/

Now don't get me wrong TD, so of what you put forward is a strong case, I just happen to believe its still he weaker of the two cases, GT6 on the PS3 followed by GT7 on the PS4 a year or two down the line just makes sense in far more ways to me.

And forget about Drive Club having no competition. Other racers will be there too. I can imagine all the PC sim guys wanting a piece of this console action, because releasing on PS4 and N-Box could double your market, or more. And the usual crowd of Codemasters and whatnot will be there too. And all releasing games in spite of the shadow of Gran Turismo looming over them all. Killzone and Metal Gear won't stop other shooters from being made, any more than GT will stop racing developers from marketing their wares on PS4. Besides, Drive Club is aimed at a slightly different market, just as Dirt is. Yes, GT6 will overshadow it, and all PS4 racers. But that shadow will exist whether GT6 is for sale or not, and millions of fans will hold out for the next GT game.

DriveClub will of course have competition, Sony can't stop other publishers from releasing driving titles, but what they can do is avoid shooting themselves in the foot by publishing a new IP alongside one that will almost certainly cannibalise sales hugely from it. Very few would buy two racing titles at launch and if the choice was between DriveClub and GT I think we can guess which one would be the looser, a move that would be utterly daft on Sony's part.

All of which forgets that despite attempts in the past, PD have never made a launch window.

Something I think makes more sense would be some sort of GT release for PS3, and the real Gran Turismo 6 for PS4. The PS3 version could be marketed as GT6 or GT5 Ultra or whatever, use your old save file from GT5 and give you the GT5 you were hoping for, minus power hungry goodies like the Movie Maker and HD Course Maker. Meanwhile, the rest of us can enjoy the seriously hopped up GT6 on PS4 with all the fixins. Whenever it's released.

I think that would cause more confusion than it solved and still think the most sensible route is GT6 on the PS3 and GT7 a year or two down the line on the PS4. That way you maximise the user base on the PS3 (not all of whom are going to move to the PS4 straight away) and allow a userbase to build on the PS4 (which is needed if you want the sales numbers a GT title demands).

If GT6 is out for PS3 solely, I think this is going to be a bad idea, make every other racer on PS4 and N-Box look infinitely better, and aggravate a huge GT fanbase. I'll buy it and enjoy it, but it won't really be GT6.

How would that be much different from the PS2 or PS3? GT didn't launch straight away on either allowing the competition (on any console) the same opportunity. If anything doing so would be perfectly normal for PD (just hope its not 6 years again).

 

[Spagetti69]

To be fair when has PD ever been great at communication, silence is simply par for the course to a large degree. That we have been used to since GT2 (as oddly for the first title they didn't shut up pre-release).

To be fair I know there track record for announcements and such. Back in the day I bought games magazines etc for info.
I just wish they didn't live in the dark ages these days.

Like I said,a PS4 release and I could understand the secrecy. If its a PS3 release though then I think it's a poor showing for lack of info. I'm not talking about dates, only platform.