The PS4 still downloads the whole patch. I had a 240GB SSD in my PS4 for a few days to test if it was worth the upgrade and I had to delete GT SPORT and redownload it again just to get the patch. But I bought a 580GB SSD and installed it in my PS4. I used the 240GB SSD because its one of the SSD's I had in my PC for about two years but noe I have an NVME drive in my computer so I don't use it anymore. I am keeping the 240GB just in case my NVME drive fails though.
GT5 sold well enough, almost 12 million sales, it's the second highest selling game in the series behind GT3, but GT6 is the worse selling game in the series. For many people, GT6 represents the worst game in the series, a common observation about GT6 is also that it released on PS3 after the PS4 came out and they had decided they wanted to invest in a PS4 and PS4 games instead, even if some people didn't have a PS4 at that time, they were saving and/or waiting for one and so GT6 passed them by.
crappy PS4 CPU?? You must be very young! I came from a time, where C64, Atari 2600 and NES were the best of its time! CPU of the PS4 would be godlike for the people there!
crappy PS4 CPU?? You must be very young! I came from a time, where C64, Atari 2600 and NES were the best of its time! CPU of the PS4 would be godlike for the people there!
I really have no problem, if GT7 comes for both consoles. As long as the safed game can later transfered to the PS5, all its fine. Its even better, because I do not feel wistfully when GT7 comes and I still have the PS4.
I want to get the PS5 only on Christmas 2023.
I think the issue here is the moment some new technology comes out, everything before it is classified as inferior, and then starts getting labelled as "crappy".
PS3 could handle dynamic TOD and weather so PS4 can too. With low enough graphics PS4 could handle everything that the PS5 does. It's all about optimization. Playing it on PS4 will be far form ideal and optimal if you want the best visual experience though, thats for sure. But other than that, it should be ok.
On GT sport I can have only one car to race against with my PSVR , I'm expecting a full grid with GT7, are you saying the PS4 could handle a full grid with downgraded graphics?, because I very much doubt it.I see lots of crying and complaining for no reason here.
GT7 will be a true next gen game and the PS4 version will be a very downgraded thing in terms of graphics, thats about it.
Just like a high end PC (PS5) and a mid-end PC (PS4) they can run the game exactly the same but the high end one can run it on much higher graphics settings.
No problem at all except that PS4 graphics will be far from optimal since the game is designed to be played on PS5... but it should have enough power to handle everything with a low enough settings
The PS4 wouldn't have been considered a midrange computer in 2013. It sure as hell isn't in 2021.I see lots of crying and complaining for no reason here.
GT7 will be a true next gen game and the PS4 version will be a very downgraded thing in terms of graphics, thats about it.
Just like a high end PC (PS5) and a mid-end PC (PS4) they can run the game exactly the same but the high end one can run it on much higher graphics settings.
Whatever you wanna call it... The point still stands there
I dont know about PSVR... I would not that much of PSVR on PS5 either, its a secondary gimmick that very few people actually use.
No, it doesn't. You can't make a "true next Gen game" if you're shackling it to 8 year old hardware. Until this apparent complete flipping of the script, Sony even felt fit to mock Microsoft for the latter suggesting that they could.
This 8 year old hardware has the same basic architecture of the PS5 so yes they can
Oh man I love Zelda ALTTP, yes, I agree, for me one of the best games of all time, released almost 30 years ago and still very fun to play today, insane
Which is fine and all, but we already know that the PS4 couldn't handle the full TOD/Weather effects with PD's lighting model in 1080p60 on PS4... because PD eliminated it specifically to hold the game to 1080p60 on PS4.
Yes they can what? Make a PS4 game that looks better on PS5? Because that's not a "next gen game" at that point.
Actually, no, you probably can't play a 2020 or 2021 game on a computer from 2013 without some serious compromises. It's even possible (and if you haven't upgraded the GPU, probable) some games just won't run at all anymore. You'd probably be fine if you had a Sandy Bridge i7 overclocked like mad and had upgraded the GPU at some point, but anything by AMD? Anything by AMD when coupled with even a 780ti from 2013? Nah. And you certainly can not do so if you were trying on something as bad as Jaguar was even in 2013.
Best selling console in the history of the videogame industry. Sony themselves have noted that it's sold better to date than the PS4. Expect to sell over 20 million consoles by the end of this year.
My money would be on 60 FPS but slightly less resolution than 1080, and then upscaled from that point to fit the 1080 output.
They can make a PS5 game become playable on PS4. Definitely.
Didnt play them
That just confirms you haven't properly read the thread. Understandable given the number of posts and pages but try to at least understand the different points of view before commenting rubbish like that.I see lots of crying and complaining for no reason here.
And this is why you've completely missed the biggest points about cross gen games, the greaphics are not the problem. The problem is, if the only difference between the games in graphical, and not functional, then the PS5 version of GT7 is not what it should/could be. It should have improved physics, features, AI and the list goes on and on, but these are things that become problematic when it comes to a cross-gen title as the core game functionality tends to remain the same.
GT Sport most certainly couldn't. While some games can, everything is a trade-off, calculations per second to improve the physics, AI, dynamic time and weather or pre-baked, resolution, number of cars on track at once, making one thing better/more complex requires a trade off on how good other things could be. By making GT7 a cross-gen game, the PS4 becomes the baromoter for many of these things rather than the PS5.
No it can't, the PS5 can process many times more calculations per second than the PS4, that means the AI, physics etc. can all be better on PS5 than on PS4. In additon, the level design can be better on PS5 over PS4, that means larget track environments with more trackside features etc. THe capabilities of the PS4 are not infinite everything except graphics. For exmaple (and if you'd read this thread you'd have seen this comparison already) the PS1 could not run GT3 game engine with worse graphics, likewise the PS2 could not run the GT5 game engine with worse graphics and the PS3 could not run GT Sport with worse grphpics, because all of these games made progress in ways you can't see as well. There is so much more to a game and game design than polygons and resolution, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
And PC games all have different minimum specs, and those are the baromoter for the games features, not the spec required for ultra settings. Higher specs just provide better graphics not more features. In other words if the PS4 version of the game doesn't have dynamic weather, time of day etc. the PS5 version in all probability won't either regardless of if the PS5 could support it should the game have been designed with it or not.
Best selling console in the history of the videogame industry. Sony themselves have noted that it's sold better to date than the PS4. Expect to sell over 20 million consoles by the end of this year.
Best selling console in the history of the videogame industry. Sony themselves have noted that it's sold better to date than the PS4. Expect to sell over 20 million consoles by the end of this year.
Then it's not a PS5 game. PD are not some sort of programming wizards beyond the realm of technological advances where they can take a game designed for a Ryzen 3000-ish CPU and have it work on hardware originally designed for ATMs and netbooks in 2010 on the basis of "it's the same architecture". Unless PD make two games, somehow, the game designed for hardware made to be put in ATMs and netbooks in 2010 is going to be the basis of both versions. If the rumors about the game being PS5 exclusive and now it has to come out on PS4 as well after the fact are true, that means they'll have to chop and chop and chop and chop to get it to even run on the PS4.
I dont think game physics or AI pushes the console capabilities to anything remotely close to 100% CPU, nor 50. The biggest issue by far is graphics.
Facts 100%,meanwhile Turn 10 are busy building a true next gen experience with forza motorsport,and i quote,don't call it 8 says chris esaki,it's a complete reboot and new direction for the franchise of what fans love about forza but also to welcome newcomers,the only thing they need to worry about is make it work for series x/s and pc,no restrictions on their end and i truly believe it'll show when they reveal gameplay of it,hopefully sooner than later,maybe even e3 or game summer fest,we'll have to wait and see what happens!
