Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[mynameis66]

Forza Motorsport will not have any random prizes at all, as confirmed in the recent Forza Monthly. You race, earn credits and car points, and buy and upgrade your cars. Nothing is left to chance.

He said there were special prize cars for completing tours,and that was the only way to get these cars.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

He said there were special prize cars for completing tours,and that was the only way to get these cars.

Right, and those are set cars, not random.

 

[mynameis66]

Right, and those are set cars, not random.

I know,i was just adding,anyway we all love the randon roulette system.

 

[Techlet]

I was wrong, they did specifically mention it is included in Forza:

Forza Motorsport Single-Player Mode Revealed: Car Leveling, Car Points, Online Saves, & More

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNR2Kk_f4Y The core single-player mode of Forza Motorsport has been revealed in a special Forza Monthly stream, with the studio's creative Chris Esaki explaining the all-new approach: "level, build, dominate". As a whole, the solo mode is named "Builders Cup"

www.gtplanet.net

But that terrible GT7 grind!!! 🤷🏼‍♂️

The carpass is just what they call their DLC car packs. It's not a battlepass system. And in that link they confirmed no microtransactions (at least none like GT7's credit packs).

Yes, free is preferable over paid DLC but at least the new FM is launching with more cars than GT7's current count after a year of free updates.

 

[ImaRobot]

The carpass is just what they call their DLC car packs. It's not a battlepass system. And in that link they confirmed no microtransactions (at least none like GT7's credit packs).

Yes, free is preferable over paid DLC but at least the new FM is launching with more cars than GT7's current count after a year of free updates.

Well technically, he's still right. Just about this part, though:

I was wrong

Either way, their car pass has been more miss than hit for me their last few iterations. I honestly would prefer more every day grocery-getter type vehicles, like those they removed long ago.

 

[Nightwing24]

The carpass is just what they call their DLC car packs. It's not a battlepass system. And in that link they confirmed no microtransactions (at least none like GT7's credit packs).

Yes, free is preferable over paid DLC but at least the new FM is launching with more cars than GT7's current count after a year of free updates.

Well technically, he's still right. Just about this part, though:



Either way, their car pass has been more miss than hit for me their last few iterations. I honestly would prefer more every day grocery-getter type vehicles, like those they removed long ago.

I have no plans on wasting my time with Forza Stan’s on an Gran Turismo side of the forum.

To make it relevant to this thread, and since we can talk as much worthless wind as we like and it will be meaningless until Forza actually is released and we see what MTX it holds, I’ll still stick with my opinion and offer as proof we compare how much in US dollars after a year of launch it costs to collect all cars and all tracks in Forza and compare vs the cost I spent on the 25th anniversary steel book case of GT7?

That is a fair and objective comparison with all the relevant data to determine which game has worse MTX in comparable 1st year timeframes (DLC is still a type of MTX)

 

[ImaRobot]

I have no plans on wasting my time with Forza Stan’s on an Gran Turismo side of the forum.

To make it relevant to this thread, and since we can talk as much worthless wind as we like and it will be meaningless until Forza actually is released and we see what MTX it holds, I’ll still stick with my opinion and offer as proof we compare how much in US dollars after a year of launch it costs to collect all cars and all tracks in Forza and compare vs the cost I spent on the 25th anniversary steel book case of GT7?

That is a fair and objective comparison with all the relevant data to determine which game has worse MTX in comparable 1st year timeframes (DLC is still a type of MTX)

That's certainly one way to act when proven wrong about literally everything said. Currently, I am no rush to get Forza it has been stagnent for years(something I've clearly stated for years now) and even now I'm not truly sold on it, luckily I get to try it without paying an extra penny. If pretending that makes you feel better, go for it. Just a bit ironic that you'd label someone as that when you're doing exactly that.

Nothing about it was fair and objective, it was literally completely wrong and baseless, everything you said was debunked. DLC are not microtransactions no matter how hard you want to change the definition. It holds no MTX, its been said.

 

[Nightwing24]

That's certainly one way to act when proven wrong. Currently, I am no rush to get Forza it has been stagnent for years(something I've clearly stated for years now) and even now I'm not truly sold on it, but if pretending that makes you feel better, go for it. Just a bit ironic that you'd label someone as that when you're doing exactly that.

Nothing about it was fair and objective, it was literally completely wrong and baseless, everything you said was debunked. DLC are not microtransactions no matter how hard you want to change the definition. It holds no MTX, its been said.

I could go on and explain how loot boxes are now illegal in Europe and they need another source of income and the industry standard is moving towards lives service games with reoccurring passes with multiple currencies so they can have multiple pay to win, and how Microsoft is deeply rooted in this despite promising they won’t…. But again, it’s all a circular argument in they wrong place and time will prove one of use right so I chose patience.


Slow GT7 news day huh?

 

[ImaRobot]

I could go on and explain how loot boxes are now illegal in Europe and they need another source of income and the industry standard is moving towards lives service games with reoccurring passes with multiple currencies so they can have multiple pay to win, and how Microsoft is deeply rooted in this despite promising they won’t…. But again, it’s all a circular argument in they wrong place and time will prove one of use right so I chose patience.


Slow GT7 news day huh?

Loot boxes? Not sure what that has to do with literally anything at all. You're all over the place. You're definitely right its the wrong place, because its literally completely irrelevant to any of these games we're talking about - and if you're going to go and say that, I'm not even sure why you'd go on about Forza in the first place. Not even sure why you're even bringing up pay to win either. Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?

 

[morfei1]

Some will say it's photoshoped, other will say it's a glitch. Haters gonna hate, cryers gonna cry, but I'll keep driving, because I like doing that😎.

1200 hours of paying (not grinding) roughly around 50 days of continuous playing in time frame of 480 days, since the game was released and login in the game for 262 days. That's how hard it was for me, to have every car and full pocket, without paying but playing the game.

If I was focused only in grinding, I most probably would be able to do that for half that time, but I used to do that, when I was younger many years ago, back in the "good old days".

Now, what I'm gonna do for the next 4+ years? Any suggestions? Go and buy the brand new F1 23 or waiting for FM8 in October? Or maybe hanging around and bitching how bad and easy GT is? 🤔 (rhetorical question for those that did not get it)

So PD, if you read that message, please put more content in the game cars, tracks, motorcycles, trains, space ships or whatever - I don't care just more content, or I'll cry around how bad your game is, because I'm no lifer😂 (sarcasm for those that didn't get it)

Have fun guys and don't take so seriously just a game economy. There are far more important things.

Now, I guess it's time to have some fun with my Porsche collection🤗

cya around, happy racing🏁.

 

[Techlet]

To make it relevant to this thread, and since we can talk as much worthless wind as we like and it will be meaningless until Forza actually is released and we see what MTX it holds, I’ll still stick with my opinion and offer as proof we compare how much in US dollars after a year of launch it costs to collect all cars and all tracks in Forza and compare vs the cost I spent on the 25th anniversary steel book case of GT7?

That is a fair and objective comparison with all the relevant data to determine which game has worse MTX in comparable 1st year timeframes (DLC is still a type of MTX)

That's certainly one way to act when proven wrong about literally everything said. Currently, I am no rush to get Forza it has been stagnent for years(something I've clearly stated for years now) and even now I'm not truly sold on it, luckily I get to try it without paying an extra penny. If pretending that makes you feel better, go for it. Just a bit ironic that you'd label someone as that when you're doing exactly that.

Nothing about it was fair and objective, it was literally completely wrong and baseless, everything you said was debunked. DLC are not microtransactions no matter how hard you want to change the definition. It holds no MTX, its been said.

Yeah. When people talk about MTX, it's usually in reference to paying money to access content/features that are already in the game more quickly (for example, paying $200 to buy a McLaren F1 in GT7). DLC is referred to more in terms of additional content that aren't in the base game (for example, paying $30 to buy the Car Pass in FH5 that includes 42 "new" cars).

While you are paying extra money for content in both cases, T10 in that article makes the distinction clear. What's also clear is they've specifically confirmed that cash to credits MTX will not be in the new FM (and hasn't been in a Forza game since FH3 after the FM7 backlash). I really don't expect them to go back on their word on this because the community reaction is a known quantity.

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

Some will say it's photoshoped, other will say it's a glitch. Haters gonna hate, cryers gonna cry, but I'll keep driving, because I like doing that😎.

1200 hours of paying (not grinding) roughly around 50 days of continuous playing in time frame of 480 days, since the game was released and login in the game for 262 days. That's how hard it was for me, to have every car and full pocket, without paying but playing the game.

If I was focused only in grinding, I most probably would be able to do that for half that time, but I used to do that, when I was younger many years ago, back in the "good old days".

Now, what I'm gonna do for the next 4+ years? Any suggestions? Go and buy the brand new F1 23 or waiting for FM8 in October? Or maybe hanging around and bitching how bad and easy GT is? 🤔 (rhetorical question for those that did not get it)

So PD, if you read that message, please put more content in the game cars, tracks, motorcycles, trains, space ships or whatever - I don't care just more content, or I'll cry around how bad your game is, because I'm no lifer😂 (sarcasm for those that didn't get it)

Have fun guys and don't take so seriously just a game economy. There are far more important things.

Now, I guess it's time to have some fun with my Porsche collection🤗

cya around, happy racing🏁.

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My m8 neglecting his porsche's service interval. 0/10

 

[ImaRobot]

Yeah. When people talk about MTX, it's usually in reference to paying money to access content/features that are already in the game more quickly (for example, paying $200 to buy a McLaren F1 in GT7). DLC is referred to more in terms of additional content that aren't in the base game (for example, paying $30 to buy the Car Pass in FH5 that includes 42 "new" cars).

While yes, you are paying extra money for content, T10 in that article makes the distinction clear. What's also clear is they've specifically confirmed that cash to credits MTX will not be in the new FM (and hasn't been in a Forza game since FH3 after the FM7 backlash).

Yeah just doesn't make much sense to even label one game having MTX and making it out to be a bad thing with Gran Turismo actually does it. I'm not even actually bothered by MTX in the first place, if you want to use it more power to you. Just doesn't make sense what's being said.

 

[Techlet]

Some will say it's photoshoped, other will say it's a glitch. Haters gonna hate, cryers gonna cry, but I'll keep driving, because I like doing that😎.

1200 hours of paying (not grinding) roughly around 50 days of continuous playing in time frame of 480 days, since the game was released and login in the game for 262 days. That's how hard it was for me, to have every car and full pocket, without paying but playing the game.

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The free credit cap is 100 million. So you, I assume, paid extra to get the credit bundle from the Anniversary Edition?

 

[McLaren]

Oh that makes it okay then.
I do love spending £60 on a game to then have to spend another £30 on car passes and packs instead of I don't know, playing the game for a bit and earning them.

You can't earn the cars in the Car Pass....

It's literally a combination of DLC offered at a set price. In FH5, it's $30 for 42 cars or $3 a car. If more than 10 cars catch your eye, then it's better off buying the pass than cars individually.

 

[benjoi84]

What I would also like to see return from GTS is the handicap bonus. It's incentive for the player to challenge themselves and a convenient kind of workaround for PD if they don't want to improve the AI itself.

For me, the number 1 missing feature from GT Sport (there's a lot of close joint-second missing features).

Single player as it is would instantly become more meaningful if they would just bring it back.

 

[Nebuc72]

You can't earn the cars in the Car Pass....

It's literally a combination of DLC offered at a set price. In FH5, it's $30 for 42 cars or $3 a car. If more than 10 cars catch your eye, then it's better off buying the pass than cars individually.

Yes, that's my point. It was sarcasm.
I think car DLCs for a fully priced AAA racing game title are stupid and quite blatantly money hungry.

 

[McLaren]

Yes, that's my point. It was sarcasm.
I think car DLCs for a fully priced AAA racing game title are stupid and quite blatantly money hungry.

K. Well, that's the way the gaming industry works now including the franchise this forum revolves around.

 

[ScottPuss20]

PD should just give the players what they want. We don't want anything extravagant, we just want a proper game with progression and a compelling event list in career mode. Let us choose our own path!

 

[TokoTurismo]

Yes, that's my point. It was sarcasm.
I think car DLCs for a fully priced AAA racing game title are stupid and quite blatantly money hungry.

Yeah, I know. I mean, it's not like PD outright sold you paint chips that, when bought once, was gone and had to be BOUGHT AGAIN to be used for other cars. Yeah, that is stupid and money hungry.

 

[tankuroded]

Microtransactions/business related talk aside:

Heres a question for anyone that knows,its not a gripe more an observation.The pic show the front wing on 2 of my R33`s.Both have exactly the same body mods and factory,or real paint colours but as you can see one is missing the side repeater and gt logo.Ive tried changing paint colours on both but they still stay the same.The only difference between the 2 models is the white one is from an earlier version of the game,probably when I first started playing,the blue one is from todays ucd with a paint job.
My earlier R34`s are also missing the same bits but later build versions have them on the wings.Any clues?Like I said not a gripe im just curious.

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Some body kits (and the widebody installation option) will remove certain emblems/blinkers from your car.

 

[morfei1]

The free credit cap is 100 million. So you, I assume, paid extra to get the credit bundle from the Anniversary Edition?

Yeap, I pre-ordered digital 25 Anniversary Edition of GT, because I'm a hardcore GT fan for 25 years.

 

[mynameis66]

Microtransactions/business related talk aside:

Some body kits (and the widebody installation option) will remove certain emblems/blinkers from your car.

Ah okay cheers for that.I totally forgot about the widebody mod,all other mods are the same on both cars except the white one maybe has wide body mod.I`ll check later.

 

[Cayit]

I think the main problem with GT7 is that there is no structure no guide in the game.
OK there are lots of races (around 170) and events BUT they all over the place!
For me the biggest let down are the payouts!!!!
They are races where you get 5000 Cr. or you drive for 15min, and you get 20000-30000 cr., it's a joke...
Like i said they are lots of Races that you can Race but i don't do it because of the Payouts...
Overall the Game looks good Drives good and has lot's of options to do things to your Car.
Maybe PD will ad a GT League to the Game...Then i will be very Happy...

 

[Fezzik]

Like i said they are lots of Races that you can Race but i don't do it because of the Payouts...

Once you get to the point where you don't care about the payouts (for whatever reason - got all cars, fed up of grinding, don't really want to buy lots, etc, etc) the game becomes a lot better. The economy is the biggest fault and frustration with the game - ignoring that (if you can) it's actually pretty good.

 

[AlexWilmot]

Yeah, I know. I mean, it's not like PD outright sold you paint chips that, when bought once, was gone and had to be BOUGHT AGAIN to be used for other cars. Yeah, that is stupid and money hungry.

Once you buy a paint chip they can be used for any car without the need to buy them again,
Your information is wrong.

 

[Famine]

Once you buy a paint chip they can be used for any car without the need to buy them again,
Your information is wrong.

He was talking about GT5; a special paint pack costing $1.99 contained 100 different unique paint chips and all were - like all paint chips in GT5 - single-use.

 

[Fili92]

Hi guys,
I'm getting back to playing GT7.
I have finished all 4 licenses except the S and have finished 39 menus.
I've seen some of you talking about very lucrative races to farm credits, what are they?

 

[morfei1]

Hi guys,
I'm getting back to playing GT7.
I have finished all 4 licenses except the S and have finished 39 menus.
I've seen some of you talking about very lucrative races to farm credits, what are they?

Check Spa, Sardegna Road, Tokyo Express and LeMans tracks. The events with the highest payouts.

Welcome in the grinding community! ✌️

 

[Nebuc72]

Yeah, I know. I mean, it's not like PD outright sold you paint chips that, when bought once, was gone and had to be BOUGHT AGAIN to be used for other cars. Yeah, that is stupid and money hungry.

I don't recall either justifying or talking about what PD did with GT5. That was also stupid.