Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[NAXEHT]

What's an LoD?

Level of Detail.

 

[AgentBlackDog]

What's an LoD?

Level of detail. Basically, how much amount of detail is rendered. It varies on certain objects at a certain distance.

 

[happycorey]

This is an interesting thing that might be worth mentioning. It looks like the same 930 Turbo in both scenes here based on color/modified exhaust. One is on an alignment rack in GT Auto, and the other is in Brighton Antiques. Could you auction off your own cars? Or could this be bought from the auction and then modified..

 

[Islaygaz]

Still my major fear is the release date being postponed

I get that! It’s all our concerns (probably), but I’m an optimist and am looking at it this way - the game has already been delayed and the new release date (I say new but it’s the first official release date we’ve had) is still 6 months away so I’m assuming the game is in a state right now that they have identified issues that can be resolved in that time and some (hopefully) minor tweaks to get the game finished so are confident that they can hit the release date!

We have been burned before by this though (GT5 was delayed multiple times!) so I am also optimistic that PD don’t want this to happen again further reinforcing my optimism that that is the release date!

 

[unit-one]

Aw... I was really hoping for ray-tracing during racing. DriveClub showed how that could look. They used a different reflection technique that sometimes made ugly artifacts but it was so awesome to see the car parts reflect on its body. (Also, the rain effects on the windshield was... still is amazing.)

Still... I'm very waiting for GT7, for Trial Mountain, High Speed Ring and more Nürb. And of course for a bigger car collection! =)

EDIT: D'oh! Was meant to post this in the other tread about new GT7 info...

 

[SportCoaster]

Since save data is online only, does this mean that the game as a whole will be stripped back to just an arcade mode and a few cars straight out of a more dubbed down Prologue title once Online Service officially ends? If so, I'm going to feel very sorry for the guys that are going to try and make a Master Mod for this title over a decade from now to get it to work as it should again. After all, we all know what happened to other titles that demanded an internet connection.

 

[Strittan]

This is an interesting thing that might be worth mentioning. It looks like the same 930 Turbo in both scenes here based on color/modified exhaust. One is on an alignment rack in GT Auto, and the other is in Brighton Antiques. Could you auction off your own cars? Or could this be bought from the auction and then modified..

Of course you’re able to modify a car that you buy. Why wouldn’t you? And what makes you think there are auctions?

 

[MadMax97]

Since GT Auto is coming back might Racing modifications be a thing?

 

[MIE1992]

Since GT Auto is coming back might Racing modifications be a thing?

From the footage we've seen so far, I don't think we'll be getting RMs, but I do see plenty of options that may end up seeming like RM kits, like an option to install a widebody kit on the Honda NSX Type R. Indeed, it seems more like an expanded version of GT6, where we had various aero part options for many cars, including widebodies and various rear wings.

Personally, if I brought back the RM mechanic, it'd be a way to turn various road cars into their Gr.4/Gr.3/Gr.B versions.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Since GT Auto is coming back might Racing modifications be a thing?

Old-school Gran Turismo players will remember the wildly popular “Racing Modification” tuning option found in GT1and GT2 — and to a smaller extent in GT5— and many were hoping to see it return for GT7. Although it will go by a different name in the latest title, Yamauchi acknowledged that car tuning and modification is a clear nod to the series’ past.

“We’ll have aerodynamic parts available and of course you’ll be able to apply wide-body kits to cars, so you’ll be able to get that same sort of race modifications that we had in the original GT1. You can add roll cages as well now,” Yamauchi revealed.

 

[MIE1992]

I think that when it comes to the car list at launch, we also should remember that even just by looking at this latest trailer, the cars imported from Sport will have many more options for customization, whereas the most you could do to the car in Sport - barring the livery editor - is changing the wheels, as well as the headlight covers on some racecars and the Ferrari 512bb. Just look at the brief clip of the three available rear wings you can equip on the R32 GT-R - I don't think we've previously had read wings that build on the stock rear wing like that. I believe that instead, previous rear wings would replace the entire rear wing, no?

At any rate, I feel like I'll be more inclined to use the livery editor this time around. In Sport, it felt hard to get motivated to use it, since the car would still look relatively stock, even if you changed the wheels.

 

[Dolby89]

Since save data is online only, does this mean that the game as a whole will be stripped back to just an arcade mode and a few cars straight out of a more dubbed down Prologue title once Online Service officially ends? If so, I'm going to feel very sorry for the guys that are going to try and make a Master Mod for this title over a decade from now to get it to work as it should again. After all, we all know what happened to other titles that demanded an internet connection.

According to Kaz, the only reason is, to avoid manipulation of the save file... if game support ends in 15 years from now, i guess they could care less about it. Only wonder if its technically possible to implement a save feature later on. I hope it is.

 

[Veinz]

I hope they have a better way to sort the lobby list when searching. I’d really like to sort them by player count instead of searching through multiple pages.

It would be nice if they fixed the glitches and crashes too, it’s currently inevitable in every lobby.

 

[dimassa19]

Yes

PS4 PRO

PS5 (from you tube)

Will it be the end of 'hexagonal' shapes in contours once and for all?

 

[happycorey]

Of course you’re able to modify a car that you buy. Why wouldn’t you? And what makes you think there are auctions?

Because the car is already modified in the Antiques? So it either comes modified from Antiques, it's a personal car stored at Antiques, or sold to Antiques. I guess I was thinking of the Antiques as an Auction house but it's not lol.

 

[Dolby89]

Maybe they're like extra expensive because they have modifications which you cannot buy usually. And the preorder limited edition for $100 already has those...

 

[Strittan]

Because the car is already modified in the Antiques? So it either comes modified from Antiques, it's a personal car stored at Antiques, or sold to Antiques. I guess I was thinking of the Antiques as an Auction house but it's not lol.

What makes you say it’s already modified? Even if it is, why should that stop you from modifying it further, or put it back to stock for that matter?

 

[kjeldsen]

Hmm nothing about the replays, yes I know I am in a minority here. But it would be nice to see some much needed updates on the replays.

A real race centric option that uses more dramatic angles and effects.

And most importantly a replay editor that let's the user setup everything including slow motion sections alternative angles on incidents etc.

Why?

To create better and more interesting footage for social media, free pr for the game!

 

[05XR8]

All I do is play to watch the replays. I need a static camera position at certain parts of a track. Leave it there and wait for the cars to come around again and again.

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

According to Kaz, the only reason is, to avoid manipulation of the save file... if game support ends in 15 years from now, i guess they could care less about it. Only wonder if its technically possible to implement a save feature later on. I hope it is.

Yep, it's purely to prevent cheating + you can't have the custom liveries offline.

 

[happycorey]

What makes you say it’s already modified? Even if it is, why should that stop you from modifying it further, or put it back to stock for that matter?

The extra large shape and different look of the components as opposed to the rest of the underside. I'm not concerned about modifying them further, or returning to stock. I'm just wondering why it's modified and in the Antiques garage

 

[Strittan]

The extra large shape and different look of the components as opposed to the rest of the underside. I'm not concerned about modifying them further, or returning to stock. I'm just wondering why it's modified and in the Antiques garage

It’s not modified though. Again, I don’t know what makes you say it is.

Here it is in GT Sport. The exhaust looks exactly the same:

Oh, and why is it in the antiques? Maybe because it’s a legendary sports car?

 

[DefNotJake]

Made a really poorly edited video comparing turbo response in GT Sport vs GT7. Thought it would be interesting to compare, as its the only thing we can visually tell is different with GT7's driving mechanics so far. Seems like Turbo lag may end up being an actual factor.

(suggest watching at least @ half speed to see the difference)

 

[o000o]

From the footage we've seen so far, I don't think we'll be getting RMs, but I do see plenty of options that may end up seeming like RM kits, like an option to install a widebody kit on the Honda NSX Type R. Indeed, it seems more like an expanded version of GT6, where we had various aero part options for many cars, including widebodies and various rear wings.

Personally, if I brought back the RM mechanic, it'd be a way to turn various road cars into their Gr.4/Gr.3/Gr.B versions.

What I'd want as well, it's like the opposite of what happened between GT5 and GT6, where RM cars from GT5 are made as separate cars in GT6, probably due to too little amount of RM cars. There should be an option to turn the car's performance accurate to Gr. 4, Gr. 3, or Gr. B version though, probably implement Quick Tune but in different way; to quickly buy parts at once that make the car on those respective levels.

 

[happycorey]

It’s not modified though. Again, I don’t know what makes you say it is.

Here it is in GT Sport. The exhaust looks exactly the same:
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Oh, and why is it in the antiques? Maybe because it’s a legendary sports car?

I'd say it's modified because it is modeled at a much higher resolution than anything else around it under the rear of the car.

 

[dimassa19]

With the Porsches standing out - in the two trailers, on the cover of the game - I wonder if we could have this beauty too at the launch...

 

[MIE1992]

One thing I'm interested in, is since we have both the Used Car Dealership and Brighton Antiques, is how the actual dealerships will look as far as car selections will go. I assume that the cars in the UCD and BA won't be also available in the dealerships, so I suppose it'll be a bit bothersome if I want something like a Dodge Super Bee in a particular color, as I think it'd have to wait for the UCD to keep refreshing until there's one in the color I want. I don't think it make sense for you to be able to pick the color of a used car, as nice as it might be. That said, with all the new customization options that will likely be in this game, I think that I'll follow my initial plan of buying at least two of each road car - one to leave as stock, and another to customize, including its livery.

As for the content of the actual dealerships, I think it could be very interesting indeed. I can only hope that the more modern racecars will be available there, perhaps with older racers like the McLaren F1 GTR being in Brighton Antiques. And hopefully the fact that the cars will be split between the dealerships, BA, and the UCD won't affect how you'll pick your Gr.4 and Gr.3 car for the Manufacturers Series.

I know we can only speculate at the moment, but it does seem like the UCD and BA will have quite a range of cars, with the former having the late-00s Abarth 500 and the latter having the late-90s GT500-spec Supra. I can only assume that every car plucked from Pebble Beach will be found at Brighton Antiques, for one thing, potentially with any racecar from before 2000 being available there, including the Porsche 917. This is all before we factor in the likely return of actual prize cars for the various campaign events - hopefully we'll even be able to pick the color of them like in GT6.

I'm also hoping that the GT Cafe feature could get expanded as more cars get added as DLC. I, for one, was hoping that an incarnation of the NB and NC Miata could be added, so we can have all four of them.

What I'd want as well, it's like the opposite of what happened between GT5 and GT6, where RM cars from GT5 are made as separate cars in GT6, probably due to too little amount of RM cars. There should be an option to turn the car's performance accurate to Gr. 4, Gr. 3, or Gr. B version though, probably implement Quick Tune but in different way; to quickly buy parts at once that make the car on those respective levels.

Yeah, I'd basically turn the RM mechanic into something that resembles using evolutionary stones to evolve Pokemon.

 

[Hellburner]

From the footage we've seen so far, I don't think we'll be getting RMs, but I do see plenty of options that may end up seeming like RM kits, like an option to install a widebody kit on the Honda NSX Type R. Indeed, it seems more like an expanded version of GT6, where we had various aero part options for many cars, including widebodies and various rear wings.

Personally, if I brought back the RM mechanic, it'd be a way to turn various road cars into their Gr.4/Gr.3/Gr.B versions.

You can add racing and extreme tuning parts, in GT Auto you can add a widebody kit, this, combined with the livery editor is basically a Racing Modification. After seeing the latest trailer I really started wondering with the added value is of those Gr.3, Gr.4 and Gr.B duplicates if we can make them ourselves? There are 50+ of them in GT Sport...

 

[Strittan]

I'd say it's modified because it is modeled at a much higher resolution than anything else around it under the rear of the car.

What? You’re just making stuff up. You just implied that it had an “extra large” shape, but now it’s more detailed? So, a modified exhaust (that looks completely stock) is more detailed than a stock one? Why? Do you have any proof? What are you even talking about?

 

[Daniel55]

One thing I'm interested in, is since we have both the Used Car Dealership and Brighton Antiques, is how the actual dealerships will look as far as car selections will go. I assume that the cars in the UCD and BA won't be also available in the dealerships, so I suppose it'll be a bit bothersome if I want something like a Dodge Super Bee in a particular color, as I think it'd have to wait for the UCD to keep refreshing until there's one in the color I want. I don't think it make sense for you to be able to pick the color of a used car, as nice as it might be. That said, with all the new customization options that will likely be in this game, I think that I'll follow my initial plan of buying at least two of each road car - one to leave as stock, and another to customize, including its livery.

As for the content of the actual dealerships, I think it could be very interesting indeed. I can only hope that the more modern racecars will be available there, perhaps with older racers like the McLaren F1 GTR being in Brighton Antiques. And hopefully the fact that the cars will be split between the dealerships, BA, and the UCD won't affect how you'll pick your Gr.4 and Gr.3 car for the Manufacturers Series.

I know we can only speculate at the moment, but it does seem like the UCD and BA will have quite a range of cars, with the former having the late-00s Abarth 500 and the latter having the late-90s GT500-spec Supra. I can only assume that every car plucked from Pebble Beach will be found at Brighton Antiques, for one thing, potentially with any racecar from before 2000 being available there, including the Porsche 917. This is all before we factor in the likely return of actual prize cars for the various campaign events - hopefully we'll even be able to pick the color of them like in GT6.

I'm also hoping that the GT Cafe feature could get expanded as more cars get added as DLC. I, for one, was hoping that an incarnation of the NB and NC Miata could be added, so we can have all four of them.

Yeah, I'd basically turn the RM mechanic into something that resembles using evolutionary stones to evolve Pokemon.

I think the cars in UCD will be also in the "normal" dealership, but the ones in the UCD will be cheaper and will require some modifications/maintenance.

Also, about the colours, maybe in the GT Auto section we will also have a tab with the official colours of the car, so we don't have to wait for the list to refresh to get a new official colour.